Trump Nightmare: Could Impeachment Evidence Turn GOP Against Him Like Nixon? | MSNBC

 

A key feature of Watergate is how Impeachment evidence ultimately turned Americans – across the spectrum – against Pres. Nixon, with Republican support falling by 41%. In this special report, MSNBC’s Ari Melber provides a detailed accounting of how public opinion shifted and why evolutions in media and journalism may account for the different reception for evidence that had emerged against Pres. Trump. Aired on 12/17/19.
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Trump Nightmare: Could Impeachment Evidence Turn GOP Against Him Like Nixon? | MSNBC

93 Comments on "Trump Nightmare: Could Impeachment Evidence Turn GOP Against Him Like Nixon? | MSNBC"

  1. The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think.
    *Aristotle*

    • Rabble Wolf : Trump is everything but high-minded. He is a lower form of life. Like fungi left in an old Petri dish, only killing not bacteria but truth.

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 5:32 PM | Reply

      @Myriam Ickx ZERO was the worse POTUS ever as he did not enforce  the law , immigration  or drugs laws and the dims are  addicted to this  dereliction of duty ????

      Joe Biden -VP JOE BIDEN ON CFR QUID PRO QUO M NNN

                         #Ukraine #JoeBiden #Kiev

      Hunter Bidens interview -#ABCNews #HunterBiden #JoeBiden
      This was done in 2013 and 2014
      and recently found out in 2017 because Obama /Holder /Comey were told not to touch ?The NY times investigated but who are they ?????
      Why don’t you think that the DIMs would allow this EVIDENCE in their basement ????
      Why do you think Joe is so sensitive about this and don’t want to talk about this

    • @Looney Times
      Obviously Republikkkans are not high minded.

    • Can you imagine chasten Butt-igieg in the WH? Thank God for President Trump.

    • @Oliver Phippen Hey genius, if Biden was so criminal why didn’t they investigate him while he was in office? Oh right! There’s nothing there.

  2. Criminals stick together..

    • @James Q just because someone doesnt agree with you doesnt mean that person is stupid. Thats willfull ignorance and I suggest to be more open minded than that

    • @Mighty Mouse it’s not the disagreement that makes people think their stupid,
      it’s the stupid counter argument that makes everyone KNOW they are stupid.
      It’s either they are stupid or a troll. Both are the same really.

    • @Steve Gillham so trolls are smart and stupid people are stupid. There is no legitimate counter thoughts to your own. Great.

      Thank you for your wisdom. I will think like you now. You convinced me

    • @Mighty Mouse trolls get their kicks out of trying to get others angry or upset, a sort of cyber bullying tactics, it is a very childish and silly pastime for some.
      Most trolls grow out of it when they realise they have very sad little lifes, however you will get a few who never grow out of it. They are a lost cause.
      Then you have low educated people trying to put up silly counter argument.
      See both are the same.
      On YouTube you see both types,
      I am not angry at any of these two types of people, we should just try and educate both types of people so they become more acceptable in society.

    • @Steve Gillham I mean… Im not calling you names or disrespecting your views. Im sorry to work you up.

      Everything I have said is my honest opinion

  3. Could evidence of corruption turn corrupt politicians? I don’t think so.

    • marko dani pretty sure it was Russia that started the war in the Ukraine. Hillary is corrupt as well. Hillary had a lot of money come from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has had us fighting their wars for many years. Trump has money coming in from Russia (Banks) and has business interests in Russia which compromises his ability to be neutral in world politics. Trump pushes Russian propaganda because he wants their help in 2020.

    • US politicians are NOT corrupt cause they just legalized bribery by law. Ukraine is corrupt cause bribery is ilegal over there. 🤣

    • mako zero I think both countries have corruption problems. Corruption isn’t legal here in America. Either is bribery. It’s called political contributions and favors here. Lol. And it works the same in all countries. We just made it harder to prove and prosecute in America with citizens united. And gave more political power to the rich. America was founded on a much different concept of government.

    • mako zero citizens united gave an unfair influence to rich contributors due to their large contributions and lobbyist. If a public official can get re-elected with a smaller segment of the voting block that’s who they will truly represent. I see that in both parties here. Income disparity has risen dramatically since citizens united was passed. Is this the traditional definition of corruption. I think it’s close enough. Every country is pretty much run by the rich for the rich just like us. But that’s Not what the founding fathers had in mind.

    • If that what u r really abt its gonna make or break u. Now if u r looking to get over on the world, political party would join the Republicans. Nothing to low for them.

  4. It would be fair if the House could get he documents badly needed

  5. Thor God of thunder | December 17, 2019 at 2:13 PM | Reply

    It remains to be seen if we will ever be able to see what’s in the secret server where the REAL transcripts are stored..

  6. Jerry Caires Jr | December 17, 2019 at 2:18 PM | Reply

    THE GOP FEARS THE TRUTH !

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 4:12 PM | Reply

      The first article  is  Abuse of power   for doing his JOB of chasing  /investigating a criminal  Joe Biden that admitted to  Extortion and Bribery of Ukraine but ZERO / HOLDER  and COMEY gave a pass to :
      The second article is  Obstruction  of congress  for not complying with a subpoena  that the SCOTUS has already   adjudicated  by saying its part of the POTUS   executive privilege ?? 
      The Senate says this impeachment is DOA ?
      This is just to smear the DON in the media ?
      and will  prove / confirm that  the House needs cleaning 
      so say the bumper stickers ??

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 4:52 PM | Reply

      Not allowing Constitutional protection in the basement with no rules for the POTUS says you dont care about the facts or truth ???
      The first article  is  Abuse of power   for doing his JOB of chasing  /investigating a criminal  Joe Biden that admitted to  Extortion and Bribery of Ukraine but ZERO / HOLDER  and COMEY gave a pass to :

      The second article is  Obstruction  of congress  for not complying with a subpoena  that the SCOTUS has already   adjudicated  by saying its part of the POTUS   executive privilege ?? 

      The Senate says this impeachment is DOA  and will  prove / confirm that  the House needs cleaning as they do not know their own rules ??? New Bumper sticker ??? really

    • EternalSilverDragon | December 17, 2019 at 6:06 PM | Reply

      @Oliver Phippen Your “facts” are just horribly, horribly wrong. Please stop watching fox.
      It was not his job to investigate Biden (despite what republicans are saying) – there are other offices in the government for that.
      Joe has not admitted to any wrong doing and multiple investigations (both at home and abroad) have cleared him of any wrong doing.
      He withheld funds from the Ukraine until they removed a corrupt prosecutor. He was instructed to do so by the administration and the entire senate, including all the republicans in the senate. It wasn’t something that Joe was doing for himself, and it was actually bad for his family. This is just a smear on Joe, and it is nothing more than a thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory.
      SCOTUS has ruled that executive privilege does not go as far as the white house is trying to stretch it. Ignoring the subpoenas is illegal, and trying to hide and stop people from testifying is certainly not a sign of innocence. Surely, we can all agree on that point.
      Yes, impeachment is probably dead on arrival, because republicans are already saying on TV that they will abdicate their duty and find the president innocent regardless of whatever evidence they are presented with.

    • Virtual Martini | December 17, 2019 at 6:58 PM | Reply

      Your projection is showing.

  7. michelet wilkinson-pennington | December 17, 2019 at 2:19 PM | Reply

    The facts won’t change the trumpists or party of trump one iota. THAT’S the horror of all this.

    • @2be Blunt After i watched the rally where he made fun of a disabled man and they cheered him on, I wouldn’t put anything past some of them. They are the dark underbelly of this Nation.

    • @Oliver Phippen Can you help me with a link to these assertions?

    • @Teardown Dan I still don’t believe the majority of the American public is going to turn on their Constitution and what it stands for. he without a doubt abused his power and is a threat to it. If people want to educate themselves they should research Hitler and how he came to power.

    • @andy peers : you do know how deluded you are re UK, yes? “they probably voted for Boris because they knew he was Trump’s buddy”? Absolute twaddle. Trump is laughed at by the majority of British people who know he is a narcissistic embarrassment to the US. Obama in comparison is widely respected and admired. (even our clown Boris laughs at Trump).
      That aside, the election result had NOTHING to do with the abomination currently in the White House, and everything to do with a vile set of lies and manipulations for the referendum in 2016, that have proven nigh on impossible to dispel from the minds of the low information voters. Its complicated, and I wouldn’t expect a #45 supporter to comprehend the nuanced issues.

  8. As if, it’s already rigged, GOP are criminal. Nixon days they had ethics

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 5:26 PM | Reply

      @Leonie Romanes You should read more on Nixon then you would not compare what what he did and what the COUP is doing ????
      ZERO was the worse POTUS ever as he did not enforce  the law , immigration  or drugs laws and the dims are  addicted to this  dereliction of duty ????

      Joe Biden -VP JOE BIDEN ON CFR QUID PRO QUO M NNN

                         #Ukraine #JoeBiden #Kiev

      Hunter Bidens interview -#ABCNews #HunterBiden #JoeBiden
      This was done in 2013 and 2014
      and recently found out in 2017 because Obama /Holder /Comey were told not to touch ?The NY times investigated but who are they ?????
      Why don’t you think that the DIMs would allow this EVIDENCE in their basement ????
      Why do you think Joe is so sensitive about this and don’t want to talk about this

    • Comrade Trump, Moscow Mitch McConnell, and Leningrad Lindsey Graham are all Russian assets or agents. All Republicans need to be voted out and the Republican part needs to be neutered as a force in American politics! GOP = Government of Putin.

  9. Only the guilty hide evidence and block investigations.

    • @Kevin Mcneil I think you forgot to add in Hillary’s emails, and hunter biden in.

    • @BOYCOTT CABLE No he didnt. He is a lawyer, the company hired him to deal with legal issues, stop repeating what fox tells you to say.

    • @BOYCOTT CABLE Hey putin…don’t you have a country to go run instead of trolling for your boyfriend?

    • @Herb Loa’a Music Only the guilty hide evidence, block witnesses and refuses to provide something that will clear them.

    • @Jeffrey Meade It’s going the way it needs to go. When it moves to the Senate for trial every senator will have to vote for or against expulsion. Then they will be on record. Those going up for re-election will have to explain their votes. If you thought that it was proper for Clinton to be impeached, then have to think that it’s proper for Trump to be impeached. There’s no way around it.

  10. Let’s see what is on Trump’s server!

    • @JoAnn Holmes da comrade

    • I don’t think that Trump can use a computer. His last one was a Commodore Amiga.

    • Let’s hear the recording of that mythical “Perfect Phone Call”.

    • @Skalgar at least Clinton had the guts to testify in front of congress. He didn’t obstruct justice.

    • @Leonie Romanes he didn’t just testify, he PERJURED himself. That is what you call guts? Maybe that’s the problem. There is no evidence other than hearsay, which is NOT evidence of anything. This is all about losing the election. One hoax after another that have been proven false. The demoncrats are throwing a temper tantrum.

  11. Nixon did not have a cult.

  12. Dudley Baggerman | December 17, 2019 at 2:24 PM | Reply

    Donald Trump is a habitual criminal ! Look at the last 50yrs ! All Facts Matters !

  13. Why are we pretending the GOP has anything that resembles a backbone? These discussions are a waste of oxygen at this point.

    • andy peers Tell is what Hunter Biden has to with ANYTHING?

    • @andy peers What you don’t seem to see is the Biden’s are not responsible for the Impeachment. Trump brought this on himself. The Biden’s don’t work in the WH, testimony by them would have no relevance. If the Bidens did wrong Trump had every agency at his disposal to do a legitimate investigation, including an Ethics Investigation by Congress. Instead he chose to handle it like a dictator would. Like Putin or Kim Jong Un, who think they have the supreme power. Wake up, our forefathers were smart enough to protect us from tyranny by putting Impeachment in the Constitution. if you respect it, honor it or have any loyalty to it, you will not put our democracy in danger. That is what Trump did, he abused his power and if let go this will set a precedent for future Presidents. Now either hone up to the Constitution or start practicing the “Heil” salute. And f you don’t believe me start doing your research on Hitler and how Nazi Germany came about. Start at Ask.com to find your history points.

    • Fake government.

  14. David Sisneroz | December 17, 2019 at 2:31 PM | Reply

    LETS GET THOSE TAX RETURNS AND SEE IF DONNIE COPTERS IS ON THE UP AND UP

  15. I doubt his loyalist will turn on him, he’s their messiah.

    • What is your masiah Hilary.if killary got to pover terror will be on critical level.Isis will win in Syria and Asad will be killed.this was plan.but under Trump isis is finished.Isis was Hilary army this is clear for all .

    • John Doe says:

      “I doubt his loyalist will turn on him, he’s their messiah.”
      ==
      Republicans in general (including Trump) are more dependent on the big donors than the voters.
      Trump fanatics are small in numbers compared to general voters.

      Traditionally, democrats can win the election with far less money, often 5-10 times the difference.
      Democrats started losing when they started to follow the same path with republicans and relying on money.

    • True, Trump has a very dangerous cult following and he will go out in flames either in 2020 or 2024.

  16. dutchpy dutchpy | December 17, 2019 at 2:48 PM | Reply

    Being the worst ever, he should collect his “reward”. He owns it.

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 5:23 PM | Reply

      @andy peers Not so fast grasshopper
      ZERO was the worse POTUS ever as he did not enforce  the law , immigration  or drugs laws and the dims are  addicted to this  dereliction of duty ????

      Joe Biden -VP JOE BIDEN ON CFR QUID PRO QUO M NNN

                         #Ukraine #JoeBiden #Kiev

      Hunter Bidens interview -#ABCNews #HunterBiden #JoeBiden
      This was done in 2013 and 2014
      and recently found out in 2017 because Obama /Holder /Comey were told not to touch ?The NY times investigated but who are they ?????
      Why don’t you think that the DIMs would allow this EVIDENCE in their basement ????
      Why do you think Joe is so sensitive about this and don’t want to talk about this

    • Praeliora T thank goodness and send the pos fake president trumpanzee to gitmo.

    • Oliver Phippen | December 17, 2019 at 5:33 PM | Reply

      @Grace Munich ZERO was the worse POTUS ever as he did not enforce  the law , immigration  or drugs laws and the dims are  addicted to this  dereliction of duty ????

      Joe Biden -VP JOE BIDEN ON CFR QUID PRO QUO M NNN

                         #Ukraine #JoeBiden #Kiev

      Hunter Bidens interview -#ABCNews #HunterBiden #JoeBiden
      This was done in 2013 and 2014
      and recently found out in 2017 because Obama /Holder /Comey were told not to touch ?The NY times investigated but who are they ?????
      Why don’t you think that the DIMs would allow this EVIDENCE in their basement ????
      Why do you think Joe is so sensitive about this and don’t want to talk about this

    • @Oliver Phippen So very true. This entire process is a horrible charade championed by idiots that believe what the msm feeds them.

  17. It should have already turned them against him. He obviously attempted to bribe a foreign nation for political favor. Republicans have sunk to an all time low.

  18. Not just impeach, he should be prosecuted after his presidency.

    • @Oliver Phippen so you think black mailing Ukraine was part of his job…. That is quid pro quo.

      The supreme court has not ruled yet in the Trump case of the congressional subpoenas, the other courts ruled the congressional subpoenas are legal and must be obeyed. Nixon also lost this same battle. Clinton complied and turned over thousands of pages.

      You live in a delusion.

    • Just like Nixon if it gets that far he’ll be pardoned

    • @tom louis I understand what you are saying. However, Nixon’s crimes were fairly narrow, that is primarily federal crimes. He received a federal pardon.

      Trump has committed a broad range of crimes. With a federal pardon, there are many crimes he won’t be charged with. But he is already being investigated by the state of New York (and others). In my opinion this is where he will be indicted.

    • Trust me he will be

  19. Mohammed Dahhou | December 17, 2019 at 3:34 PM | Reply

    Nowadays, corruption is tolerated as long as your benefits are secured.

    • M2B mluvAndgrace | December 17, 2019 at 6:27 PM | Reply

      Mohammed Dahhou By republicans, yes.

    • Wonder Wonderful | December 17, 2019 at 7:53 PM | Reply

      It depends on who’s doing the corrupting. Only stands for one side or the other. Like Trump and his Klan thinks he’s not being corrupt, but if anybody else was doing the exact same thing, they would look at it as corruption, especially the republicans. They have double standards. That doesn’t work in our Democracy and they know it, that’s why they’re trying to destroy it.

    • Wonder Wonderful | December 17, 2019 at 9:36 PM | Reply

      Also! As long as you’re not the one doing it. Then it’s going to be different.

  20. mistercohaagen | December 17, 2019 at 3:38 PM | Reply

    Nixon didn’t have “The Enquirer” to extort all the Republicans with their embarrassing unmentionables.

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