Will Trump’s Presidency Lead To Reforms? | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Two weeks before the election, some in both parties are already looking beyond Trump to map out a rewriting of rules similar to what happened following Watergate, according to the New York Times' Peter Baker. Aired on 10/21/2020.

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  1. OUR GOVERNMENT OBVIOUSLY WANTS MORE, RIOTS, VIOLENCE AND KILLINGS. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE RUN OUT OF $$$$……THEY TURN TO VIOLENCE AND CRIME….#STIMULUS

    1. @John Cox I know, I also know you can’t change the minds of these mindless imbeciles. I just love to screw with them.

    1. @William H

      Thank you for giving me the opportunity to help rob that bank with you, William.

      OK, by your logic you are now guilty of either robbing or conspiring to rob a bank, William.
      You can’t deny it, the evidence is right there in your inbox.

    2. How about how Clintons, Obama’s, Biden’s are all worth hundreds of millions of dollars? making a fortune pedaling and selling out the country for family favors! I bet you would not even want to know the answer?

    3. @mark balmer Darlin’, they all _did_ show their tax returns. Only people I know of who sold out the country are people like trump who sold EB-5s to Russian oligarchs and Chinese billionaires.

    1. @William H That must be why trump is pandering for their votes by playing the Village People at his rallies and offering to kiss all the men in the audience.

  2. Presidents shouldn’t be able to fire gov’t watch dogs who are investigating issues related to the president’s agenda, etc.

    Presidential candidates should be required to release 10 years to federal and state tax returns.

    1. @J A Keller what a great idea. Trump has just fired IG’s if their investigation shows something he doesn’t like. Also, restrain the AG telling the president who to fire.

    2. **FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC,, TAX RETURNS,, AND A COMPLETE FINANCIAL STATEMENT,, OF FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, PROPERTIES AND FINANCIAL HOLDINGS!!! Trump could not get A SECURITY CLEARANCE,,, with all of his debt!!!!!**

    3. @BILLY BIG’S His finances aren’t PUBLIC information actually. Don’t discount the ‘trickle down’ effect of what you said. We don’t need anymore than a regular Employer has the right to have when selecting an ‘applicant’.

      I do believe the ‘WILLINGNESS’ to disclose your tax returns should be a requirement for the office but I don’t think the contents should be made PUBLIC unless the candidate approves but if they disapprove than they can’t ‘Bad Mouth’ (Gag Order) an Election Committee for DISQUALIFYING them from running for the highest office in the land (and it can be a State run committee as long as there is also a FEDERAL level one).
      Whoever processes Congressmen’s tax records should process Presidential candidates returns. And it should be about deception, FRAUD, criminal activity or conflicts of interest NOT whether they are ‘Rich’ or not.

  3. trump has treated the country the way he did his taxes. Exploit every loophole. He’s ruined our country for years to come.

    1. @Pam Deshane I’m sure you’re aware that until Dump is removed from office the US cannot charge him for any of his criminal activities. But, once he out of the office he’s going to be spending a LOT of time in the courts and most likely behind bars, like his father. Karma has her own way of showing just who’s guilty and when the time is right.

    2. @David Goeken And the people still vote for him. He’s the worst president the US has ever had. I can’t wait to hear the announcement that “He’s Fired”.

  4. There are already idiots out there proclaiming that we should let Trump walk away Scott free FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY !!!!
    I call this bull , just politicians saying I won’t prosecute so you won’t prosecute me either !!!
    Time to break that cycle and demand justice !!

    1. Despite what some people may think, ex-presidents can go to prison. Why do you think Gerald Ford felt compelled to pardon Richard Nixon..?

    2. @Tessmage Tessera agreed, the issue is going to be when Republicans flip and say “but precedent says…” after Trump wiped his butt with presidential precedents for 4 years…

    3. @MB Trump First of all, everything you said is a lie… but have you considered the fact that your silly lies are self-defeating and will make it HARDER for Trump to win..? Let’s say you actually convince a few people that Trump is winning in early voting (even though he isn’t). Do you know what effect that will have..? It will further motivate lazy people, who MAY NOT have have been planning to vote, to get out there and vote for Biden. You Trump trolls really are Trump’s worst enemies…. aside from Trump himself.

  5. 1. Obligatory financial disclosure by a candidate.
    2. Psychological evaluation of a candidate by a board of professionals.
    3. Electoral college out of the door.

    1. @Mary Ziel The decision by the OLC that a sitting president cannot be indicted is based on the OLC’s attorney’s understanding of the Constitution, it is not law. As for tweeting, I don’t think the Court could forbid it on first amendment free speech grounds even if it were for a white supremacist group. Question. What, by the way, is the white supremacist group that you feel Trump supports?

    1. Speaking of the treasonous tub of lard, what is the major difference between a bean and a chickpea?

      The major difference between a bean and a chickpea, is of course that Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putin doesn’t own a video of Donald John Trump watching a bean.

  6. There needs to be a restrictions on presidential orders. Using funds from one agency to fund projects like the Wall, (the president doesn’t hold the purse strings). Using the military to police the borders. etc. You can’t run the Government on policies that change every (4) years

    1. The latest on his B$ with the Wall? A Federal Appeals Court Judge ruled that neither Executive Privilege nor National Emergency grants a President total authority. He does NOT have the authority to steal money from the Military Budget to “Build the Wall,” he was ordered to cease and desist.
      The US Constitution grants CONGRESS, not the President the authority to deal with money.

    2. The powers and roles that any modern President president wields would scare the founding fathers. The way it’s supposed to go is that Congress leads, and the President follows.

  7. Yeah after this I hope they will never never let this happen again!😡 I never want to see this ! I believe trump and his cronies need to be put behind bars! 😡💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙🇺🇸

    1. @snowflake killer Certainly Troll. Let’s start with tax evasion, mail fraud, theft from the American tax payers, Hach Act (using a public office for political gains), need more?

    2. In case you are not aware, Nancy Pelosi has written a bill just for this reason, which will curtail any future president from being able to use public office for personal gains and to disclose tax returns prior to an election.

    3. @SMS oh my God you were so delusional please get yourself some help start with getting away from MSNBC telling you what to think

    4. @snowflake killer Oh sure and watch Fax which isn’t even a news station? Nah, I stick with the others that speak the truth.

    5. Force all of them to leave so they can learn how it feels to be unwanted immigrants. And by the way one honest Latinex immigrant is worth a thousand trumps!

  8. Do you know why foreign bots pose as trumpers?

    Because, their poor english skills fit right in with the average red hats inability to write a proper sentence. : )

    1. @George Masters You can also watch Get Me Roger Stone on Netflix and the doco on Al Jazeera – how Cambridge Analytica came to be, what they did and don’t let the name put you off – they expose how, why and who – it is terrifyingly easy. Trumps campaign are currently targeting the Afro American into not voting – also download the Sandworm Indictment released a day or so ago – that is even more terrifying .

    2. @Vivian Stimpson Dead right, he has trouble stringing a coherent sentence together. HIs play is to stay out of prison, he will literally ‘f’ the entire country if needs be – and right now needs be for him. Expect chaos on a magnitude not seen before, He has the power the will and the need for it.

  9. Reforms should include:
    Release of financial info before being allowed on the ticket.
    Abolish the Electoral College.
    Revision of the gerrymandered districts.
    Oversight of Presidential Pardons.
    Oversight of Presidential powers regarding Emergency Measures and War Powers Act.
    EXECUTION OF TREASONOUS PRESIDENTS AND/OR CABINET MINISTERS, ESP AG’S.
    This is just a start. Many more reforms are needed.

    1. @snowflake killer It’s not just for him/her. You’re swatting at “snowflakes” while a freakin’ ton of compacted snow is rolling down the mountain at you. And it’s about time it did. Your attitude stinks before heaven.

    2. @Hyperpandas A system might be established by which a would-be president, if winning by popular ballot, has to win both most states and most people — at the risk of leaving a contest undecided and throwing it to the House and Senate (the new ones, not the old). Don’t forget why the EC — breadth of representation.

    3. @hawkturkey Yep, or states could choose to distribute their electoral college votes in proportion to the popular vote in their states. But if there’s to be a federal mandate that compels all states to act in a particular way, it’ll require a Constitutional Amendment.

    4. @hawkturkey I don’t agree.
      It is not fair that, in 2 of 3 votes, the California voter has 1/5th the value of the Wyoming voter.
      The EC needs rule changes to balance a bit more and the Senate representation needs tweaking to reflect more the urban areas.

  10. taxes must be presented before running and the title acting as the head of any agency must not be a loophole and no one should be able to get a job in administration if they donated large amounts to campaign

  11. Trump demands his opponents get locked up and he hates Americans who didn’t vote for him. We must do better.

    1. @theworldaccordingtome i would crawl over broken glass with my zip down for biden to win and i don’t even live in america i just feel sorry for them to have a dangerous dictator for a president god bless u all .

  12. Joe I still cannot believe anyone went along with this notion that a prez is above the law. There really must be a reckoning in order for our country to find its own self respect and reaffirm it’s moral grounding in the law.

    1. If Kings like Louis 16, George 3rd and the last Russian Tsar Nicholas were not above the law, neither should be a commoner like Trump be above the effing law.

    1. @Magnate News No kidding! And there’s no reason that anyone be excempted from the law. Although, truly and surely, here cannot be another Trump – Thank God!! I still shake my head in disbelief Every time he speaks, how did it come to be.😡

    2. @Mary Helis I don’t know merry … I actually don’t believe trump is the problem but the supporters. They were always there and Trump just have them a voice and platform. Trump has always been the dog and pony guy .. trump university trump steaks … taj casino and many more .He went from con to con . Those people are not going anywhere and now they are more organized and in my humble opinion dangerous . The fbi calls them the biggest danger to democracy.

    3. @lonny W people can cry all
      They want but we need the police as much as we need taxes. People can complain all they want but the day the bar people come they are all that’s coming.

    4. @Magnate News I agree that they were always there and Trump empowered them as he too is like them. So I think Trump as instigator and supporter is to blame. Yes, for sure they will probably, retaliate when they lose their enabler. That won’t be pretty. The FBI has said that but don’t forget Trump as president, controled action or inaction taken. Without him they too will receive their just should they cause havoc. Trump turned all Americans against one another. Trump promoted hate and violence. The country will need time and sound governence to align itself. Trump took American back to uncivilized levels.

  13. Vote blue by November 3 to end the third oligarchy

    1. Confederacy
    2. Monopolies after Great Depression
    3. Trump Crime Family in progress

    1. This is new to me. I’ve just referred to the current admin. as the Fourth Reich. That said, Oligarchy and Fascism are really kissing cousins both derived from Feudalism and the idea that the poor exist to fund the wealthy.

  14. If reforms aren’t put in place then say goodbye to American Democracy. Now that Donald Trump and the GOP have shown just how fragile it is.

    1. Democracy is always fragile. The problems Americans have is that they thought their democracy was safe under a system of checks, balances, and legislation. It only worked with Nixon because he and his supporting Party in the Senate has respect for the Constitution, democracy, and the rule of law.
      So what happens when you have a President and a majority Party in the Senate that supports a President that is totally lawless. As we can see the system breaks down. Putting in new legislation simply will not work if the person elected will not follow the rules. Nobody can make the President do anything.
      The strength of a democracy lies in it’s electorate. When they loose faith in democracy it dies, simple. It is clear a good 30% of Americans have reached that point, or simply do not understand what a democracy is any more.
      That is the problem. Who is guilty for this state of affairs? The finger can certainly be pointed to a complacent political culture for sure. Conservative Evangelicals, by mixing politics with religion, have a responsibility. Then there is a Conservative hegemony that has sought to undermine the institutions of democracy since Reagan.
      There is still a majority of Americans that do understand democracy and are prepared to fight for it. If they prevail, then it is up to the successful administration to restore faith in the system, get it working for the people and to make sure America is never again hijacked by a bunch of crazies.

    2. @Trumpraped Ivana – That will be a good start. Unfortunately the 2010 ruling on Corporations rights to fund political parties and candidates virtually made corruption legal. A terrible ruling imho, and has meant that money talks, not voter power. Part of the problem.

    3. Like packing the supreme court, ending the filibuster or refusing to obey federal law e.g. sanctuary cities refusing to notify feds when illegal immigrants are set to be released?

  15. Trump’s got 5 kids to 3 women, he doesn’t pay any taxes, has no real money and lives in public housing – go figure !

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