The labor force participation rate for men ages 30 – 44 is lower than it was pre-pandemic while more women in that age group are participating at a higher rate than pre-pandemic. CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich takes a look at why.
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I would like to say that we worked less hours during covid but we’re everyday public physical laborers (and in truth our hours have gone up)
Something I actually enjoy and my Husband doesn’t.
So we made a deal a while back.
He’s covering more of our domestic duties (laundry shopping drop off pick up children animals chores etc…)
& I’m working more hours.
Win Win:)
😊I have a feeling you are buff💪. I love it. 😊
Years ago, a friend of mine who had been in the US for 2-3 years told me “America cares about money, kids, women, the elderly, animals & men in that order” 😂😂
Men are strong I’m not concerned.
Spew another lie, non American democrat funded fake unfed unresponsive bot.
I agree! But it is Money, Guns……🤷🏻♀️
I think kids and animals ( dogs, to be specific) are tied at second spot 😂
I’d say my kids, my woman, my elderly, myself, money, Kids, elderly, women, and animals.
As an example, they have a man married to a doctor. No wonder he doesn’t work. Not everyone marries into money.
Exactly. Most men are leaving because they just aren’t being paid enough
The pandemic should have shown women that you can’t work in low-paying jobs and expect to retire and support yourself and a family on one income. You either need to get married or go into higher-paying jobs that are mostly dominated by men. This has been what the data has shown for decades. Plus with inflation, if you want to stay in the middle class. You are going to have to take more male dominant jobs.
Not actual construction, but management
The same job that could pay the bills 15-20 years ago hasn’t kept up with inflation and today doesn’t pay the bills. Those jobs need to be quit.
@Truth Hurts Remind me again: What were the GQP voting records on raising the minimum wage? Oopsie, seems like the GQP aren’t interested in helping those at the bottom. Ahh but more tax cuts for the rich (donors) is always on the table.
@Jason Vegan raising minimum wage wouldn’t help…. stopping the inflow of millions of illegal immigrants that are undercutting American wages would… it’s supply and demand… minimum wage only affects a small percentage of the workforce… raising the minimum wage causes all kind of other problems down the road
@Jason Vegan you can raise the minimum wage, that’s not going to raise the wages for most people.. but it will make everything more expensive one thing that’s not going to happen, is businesses taking a loss to increase wages…
@Truth Hurts Jason made a great point which is the truth. Sounds like your in all support for corporate greed. There’s no way one can pay rent and expenses on the lowest wages. This has nothing to do with the immigration problem.
Amazing they don’t mention the cost of childcare. #1 reason a parent (don’t care which one) remains home, is because childcare is SO expensive. If you aren’t making $75k or more, working 40 hrs and paying for childcare, there is almost no money left over.
It’s cnn! You know you only get 1/2 truths
@ShiftyeyesNV actually cnn got it right. Child care is extremely expensive.
During covid I was forced to work 10 hour days 7 days a week. I was working as a Welder in the nuclear field. The company I was working for (Holtec International) did not care about who in your house had covid and would force you to work or you will get fired. I seen alot of guys get fired because they could not keep up with the intense work and crazy hours. Eventually it got to me too. I got feed up with the company using us and not caring about the responsibilities we have at home. My stress levels extremely high and eventually started to have migraines and had a seizure. The company didn’t care. Once I was cleared to go back to work they didn’t work me in slowly. I was put back on the same 10 hours 7 days a week. I only lasted a few months after that because I couldn’t take it anymore. I was worn out and beat down and the company fired me, then fought me tooth and nail for unemployment but they lost because they got caught in a lie. They claimed I was a disgruntled worker for years. But yet I had received multiple awards for my great work. So they lost but I couldn’t believe they would lie like that. Now I work for a defense contractor as a Welder but I will never let a company force me to work that many hours a week and force me to spend less time with my family!
There’s no possible dollar figure where I would work that much. I’m single with no kids so I don’t really need much money anyway.
I remember growing up hearing if you do a good job, stay late when asked, and show up everyday you will be rewarded and possibly move up the ladder with the company. That might have been the case for our parents generation but I didn’t see any of that at my jobs over the years. I’ve seen and been offered 39 hours a week but expected to work more without the benefits of course. Mandatory overtime with no exceptions. Companies, Corporations, and businesses just don’t care about their workers anymore.
10 hours thats it? Good grief I have been working at least 10 hour days most of my life. I bet 70 percent of my career has been 12 hour days.
@Breakfast Club Never get married and never have kids and you won’t have to ever work that much.
Forced? Did someone hold a gun to your head?
I dropped out of the corporate workforce in 2019. Started our own parrot rescue along side my personal photography/uav business. I’ll never again work for anyone else and in nearly 4 years I’ve made more than I did in 10 under IHG.
So you work? you’re not out of the workforce
there are literally over 280 million photographers in the united states.
Probably because they are tired of being over worked and under payed
This country is addicted to work to the point of being unhealthy and the cost of living keeps going up and up while wages never budge
Sure, they did, when Trump was in office real wages increased for the first time in decades and it was every category of labor. Democrats manage to ignore such facts.
Im guilt of this. I was an ASE master technician with about 20 years experience. No auto shop would pay me over $20 an hour. My wife a nurse makes 40+. I now stay at home and weld as an artist and youtuber and make MORE than I did as a certified technician. This is because the content and art i create is more valuable than My hourly rate is valued to a automotive corporation. IMHO the shops are exploiting men. They bill out 120$+ an hour and give the guy doing the work 20$ 1/5th that bullshit
You aren’t guilty of anything. You’re living life right.
@Aaron Klemm it’s not always easy being as inconsistent as self employment can be but better to be nervous about the future than furious at an employer haha I’m definitely endless amounts much happier now
A man should work hard, only if one or more of these factors apply to him: he is or wants to be a father; he finds his career extremely fulfilling; he can make at least seven figures.
For many men (including me), these days none of these applies. The difference between these days and the past is that the first factor used to apply to almost all men. What percentage of men don’t want kids or don’t really care either way, I’m not entirely sure. But what I see, it looks like 50%, at least.
Personally I’m happy working an easy 9 to 5 job that pays barely above the minimum wage. After work, I have a lot of free time. I have weekends off. My hobbies are all free or very cheap. I love going to the gym. I live in a small studio apartment. It’s cozy and easy to clean. I don’t want kids, but don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate them or wish anyone ill for having them. I like cats, but some of my friends have cats. So I get to cat sit them sometimes. Even during work my work is so undemanding that I can think about other things. My tax bill is low and uncomplicated. I always save some money at the end of the month and invest in low risk assets.
So for what it’s worth, that’s my experience. I’m 39 by the way. I don’t claim to speak for any other man. But there’s just too much stress these days for too many people. That I can see.
@YorickReturns you have millions of men fiends? What else do you see in the millions of men lives?
Yes, you can have a yacht on a 6 figure income. 800,000 a year buys a lot of things.
@Thomas John “What percentage of men don’t want kids or don’t really care either way, I’m not entirely sure. But what I see, it looks like 50%, at least.” Did I say I definitely know? Did I say that I have millions of male friends? No, I was cautious about it. That said, you can generalize on that level. If I said, millions of men like sports, would you disagree? Probably not, right? So that’s an interesting question. On what basis is it rational to generalize? I think you can tell a lot about people by their actions. I don’t need to be someone’s friend to know if they have a child or not. And I think you can tell a lot about people just by seeing how their emotions show. Generally, if people are excited or sad, they show it. Just pay attention as you walk down the street.
As for the yacht, I am no expert, but from what I have read, the very cheapest begin at $100,000. And a 6-figure income is maximum $999,999.99. I don’t think it’s prudent to spend even a tenth of my income on an unnecessary luxury like that. And that’s before all the ongoing costs. But yes I guess I technically could afford a yacht of some kind on that income.
@YorickReturns uh, the point is you don’t know millions of people. You don’t know what they want. What they think.
Get it? Easy peasy.
Have a good one.
@Thomas John “Get it?” Why so hostile? Do you never generalize? Do you believe that most men like sports or that they don’t? Or do you really have no idea? If what you want to say is that men are pretty much just as interested in having kids as they used to be, then just say it, but I guess you don’t want to generalize. We can’t really have a conversation, if you’re not actually saying what it is that you do believe.
I don’t know if I’ve offended you in some way. But as I say, do what works for you. And I say, I don’t hate kids, and I don’t wish ill on you for wanting kids or having them, if this is what your hostility is about.
Me personally, I don’t want kids or Wife under current societal circumstances. Without those coming into play, it opens the Door to living minimalisticly.
They aren’t “Dropping out of the workforce” they’re dropping out of the CORPORATE WORKFORCE. – big difference
Both
My breadwinner wife makes 10x more money using her brain than I could ever make breaking my back in construction. Now I only work on our own “in house” projects rather than continue to serve in a “workforce” that doesn’t appreciate people or pay enough. Together we are killing it! Thanks to YouTube videos I’ve become a Jack of all trades. We save a fortune doing everything for ourselves. Our home equity is through the roof and we continue to add on. It works very well for us. Zero regrets.
@Mara Lansaw can’t take a joke? Relax bud.
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@James James 😆 that was great
I thought women are under paid for being a woman 🤷♂️
In 2008, we both left the job market due to the lack of balance: Too many hours spent working, not enough benefits, not enough time at home. We sold everything, and have been working seasonally from our RV 6mos out of the year since 2011, and have less stress, are healthier, and have more money in the bank (ironically). No pensions, no insurance, longer work weeks (and often weekends), what’s the point anymore, if you’re just living to work to pay the bills, with no security of any type. The classic version of the American dream (house, cars, 2.5 kids) is dead. Anyone having kids these days, with the unpredictability baked into everything, is nuts IMO. This was obvious to anyone paying attention, back in the late nineties. (Unless, of course, you’re wealthy.)
God do I love being single. I do what I want, when I want. I work just enough to have the things I want. It’s the only way I would ever want to live.
Ikr?! 45 yr old maid here! 🙋♀️ I couldn’t agree more. It’s glorious to be single & not be saddled with brats. May be a bit lonely at times, but the fact that I don’t have the drama that goes along with being married & having kids is totally worth it! Am about to get a small class C motor home to pull my little car with & live off the grid for awhile. And am gonna learn to hunt, do more fishing, learn how to use a long bow & get me a horse, & put him up in a stable. Putting down roots just ain’t no fun anymore. It’s become quite a chore, tbh. I am considered “poor”, but I live within my means. And if I want something, I work for it. I wouldn’t have it any other way. The only way I would go into a relationship, is if we both had our own separate lives & homes. No way am I living with anyone ever again. Am stuck with my dipshite brother at the moment, but that’s about to change. As for marriage?! No freaking way! That bs is for the birds. Am gonna start being selfish af, personally. I took care of people for 20 yrs, as a CNA & I retired & now I work in a great gourmet resteraunt here on the Oregon coast. And it’s the perfect place to live off the grid, with a small RV. Can’t wait. It’s gonna be awesome! Hope u continue to do everything u want as well! Viva LA single! 🥰
@Rachel Kristine Nice! Enjoy!
It’s a shame that some people will look at a man at home with his kids as the fall of civilization.
Seeing too many middle-aged men die of suicide lately. I think more men need to prioritize mental health and if that means leaving the workforce, then they should do so.
This midset of “We know our ‘roles'” and questioning “who is raising the kids” is so ridiculous. If you and your significant other are not raising a child TOGETHER. MAYBE DON’T HAVE A CHILD.
I applaud them. More money can be made over the internet AND you can have the freedom of a major impact on your family. A win win.