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NY birdwatcher Christian Cooper: “You don’t participate in your own dehumanization. You don’t give them the power to determine your actions when you’re not doing anything wrong…To have their unwarranted fears placated by you justifying your existence.” Aired on 6/15/2020.
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Why Black People Don’t Need To Answer To White The People Calling Police | All In | MSNBC

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    1. @Isaac Graham You are a fool! I am a progressive, and even Bernie or Bust! I support BLM, and I support the protests, and I support Defund the Police and Abolish over-policing, racial profiling and more. I’m as left as they come, but I also believe in nuance and justice for ALL. I know his sister posted it, and I know he tried to lure the dog with treats. THAT IS WRONG! No one gives treats to someone’s dog without permission. I also know it happened during our NYC Lockdown, and I also know most people were trying to be considerate during that time because it was so difficult and stressful. I also know he instigated it, and he did NOT film that part of the story. He tells us he was “polite,” and I am sure he was in his special way. HOWEVER, he also escalated the situation, and started filming her as she was leashing her dog (which she did not complete because they were still exchanging words). I also know that when she came close to him to during the argument, he went full Drama Queen and pretended she was about to physically attack him (Don’t touch Me! Don’t touch Me! WHAAAAA). He wanted to escalate it, and he got what he wanted. Like I said, she should have walked away, and her response to his harassment was UNACCEPTABLE and DANGEROUS and a RACIST ploy. Karen the Birdwatcher wanted the reaction he got, and he is pleased as punch that he has succeeded in ruining her life. Just as she might expect, police are dangerous, Karen the Birdwatcher knows he can ruin her life by posting his video. In fact his sister called her a ‘Karen.’ LOL Un-friggin’-believable. They are a happy family now. It would have been even better if they could have had her arrested, and I am sure they are hoping she kills herself. Lovely people!

    2. @Isa And I’m glad he ruined it.
      Did he make her call the police?
      Did he make her say a “Black Man” was threatening her?
      No, she showed her true colors.
      She put his life in danger.
      There is no coming back from that.
      She’s done.

    1. @JR N It’s “anti-democracy propaganda troll.” We can’t know online if they are trumpists, putinese, batterer bannonish, etc… BUT we can know they fight AGAINST our freedom. Pity them that but also celebrate.

      I’m amused as all get out now knowing that putin, and other tyrants who direct their people to focus on America, are learning “the abyss stares back.”

      No one who has experienced freedom could ever fight against it, online or anywhere. We, the free, fight FOR freedom. So, now these attackers get to watch and learn as we fix our mess, oust trump, take back the internet, it’s like we are giving these poor anti-democracy attackers a lesson in “how to oust putin 101.”

      I encourage ALL to not hate these pitiful folk. Instead, take the powerful route that free folk use… TEACH them. Show them how we play in a democracy.

      Exchange and challenge and test ideas. REQUIRES critical thinking skills, civility based on basic respect for human beings, and a fair-minded heart.

      Remember, only in an autocracy does “difference = divide.” Here, in America, difference means cause for debate and maybe compromise. It’s about HOW we do it. So, even online, please take care to defend freedom by defending civility.

      Be aware that over 2 years ago, the Russians in particular shifted to “conversational” propaganda. They pose as people on BOTH sides and the reason that suits their goals is that they are not for one party, they are attacking reason, civility, fair-dealings among strangers.

      I cannot confirm that @A R is Russian, alt-right or whatever… but I can confirm that their posts are an exact fit for anti-democracy attackers online.

      My suggestion. When you see racist stuff just post LifeAfterHate.org

      See sexist stuff? RAINN.org

      THOSE are the 2 bodily organ-based supremacist ideologies that the anti-democracy trolls target first. Probably because they are the founding flaws in our Constitution (US). You know, hit us in our weakest spot – supremacy.

      And, finally, let’s wish the trolls democracy, healing and freedom. If they can heal then the whole world gets that bit better.

      Remember, most of the trolls are either military OR they are being used (because they are so desperate, so poor) as weapons against the very freedom they seek and deserve.

      “but for grace there go I”

      Well wishes for your good health ALL (yes, even the trolls).

    2. @A Cool Million Don’t you worry about that friend, I’m well aware of that and if you look at the history of my comments I spend 99,9% of my time trying to educate those lost causes…and we all should do the same even if it’s not going to stop them for trying to spread confusion and division.

    1. @Isa He was minding his own business. He didn’t threaten to call the police on her even though she was the one breaking the rules he depended on to pursue his hobby peacefully.
      Don’t be so fragile about your lack of power and authority over other people. Live and accept that other people don’t need you to “let them live” mind your damned business.

    2. YEAH! MIND YOUR OWN, If a little dog is with his owner and they are just playing in a park, not hurting you,. not within 50 feet of you… MIND YOUR OWN! right?

    1. @Leah Brown that’s a good question…perhaps because of the pandemic they thought the dog better to be in a home, even with an unstable person. My best guess.

    2. I often wonder how people such as this woman think they are superior to anyone let alone a black person, this has gotten away out of control.

  1. Micro aggression? It’s racism. You may need to tell the police your name but not people passing by and wanting to know where you live. No.

    1. So many comments, quite the dog pile.
      Too many many to respond to.
      I will just say this :
      You are some really horrible people. :/

    2. @Austin Smith you mean lie about knowing the owner of the property? Assume a POC couldn’t live in that nice neighborhood? Call the cops on a faulty assumption? Or is it all the above?

    3. @Jav
      You have improperly used the word strawman.
      As I said above trying to be a good neighbor.
      All this could have been avoided if the guy had just said at the beginning it was his property when they asked him.
      America is facing a pandemic, a possible depression, our food supply falling apart but instead we are distracted by crucifying people for trying to be good neighbors with BS charges of racism. :/

      PS
      For those that called me a racist.
      I am not.
      Not that it a matters because the charge of racism is meaningless now thanks to people like you from overuse and abuse.

    1. @Beverly Antoniou HER NOSEYNESS COST HER AND HER HUSBAND THEIR JOBS 😆 MAYBE SHE’LL LEARN TO MIND HER OWN BUSINESS IN THE WELFARE LINE! 😆

    2. @SchoolHomeVR Technology Assisted Training First of all I said excatly what I meant. The interpretation is on you or anyone else.
      To break what was said down into terms that you might understand. First of all part of human nature is base of sensory. What people see and how they interpet a thing is how one will approach an individual or a problem. For example when a young man see a young lady for the first time and she catches his eye lets say. The first thing he does is try to determine what she is like from her persona. In doing this he tries to determine how she might respond if he approached her. All this is done with one simple glance. Now the young lady also sees the young man. So now she goes through the same process and decide he is not her type. So when he smiles at her from across the room but she doesn’t smile back. Immedately the guy can determine that to this person is not someone that is going to engage in a conversation with him
      So it is in his best interest to not try.
      As individuals we are prone to reading people. We do it with out realizing it cause its natural. Oftentimes we as individuals give off mixed signals. We are saying one thing and yet acting another way.
      Most people who would approach another individual will have decided by sight and what they sense about person. It is at that point when they determine if the person is approachable.
      For example in this case the two individual assume that theyvwere in a postion of superiority and because he was an individual that they felt they had the authority to confront. So that is what they did. They continued to bully him because he engaged in a conversation. Giving them more power exhort authority they did not have.
      This could have been stop from the onset. Simple by the man taking the authority over the matter. One word would have change the course of this event. When they approach him all he had to simply saying look what I am doing is none of your busy. Now I suggest that you move on and enjoy your day or I call the authority and report this encounter as a form of harrasment.
      That would have been the end of the conversation.
      As state people never approach me because of my persona. It let’s them know I am not someone you easily approach especially with nonesense.
      It is about the way you present yourself and if you engage in people’s foolishness always take control of the situation.

  2. You people are losing your jobs …and you’re STILL not getting it? Now that’s stuuuuuuupid!

    1. @Austin Smith it’s called, KNOW THE LAW and KNOW YOUR AREA.

      would you like it if people nonstop keeps calling cops on you,
      when you are sitting in your car, and they think you’re stealing it?

    2. @s w well, nosey people are nosey to other people not just blacks.
      My neighboors are young and mixed and black and try to know peoples lives without knowing them.
      Please. Stop buying all this bs everyone.

    3. @Red Markers See that’s what I’m talking about…I’m not buying BS because it has happened to me, my husband, my children, my family, friends, co-workers, etc… Even to my own mother who worked for the police department from 1975-1999. We’re not making this up, you literally get questioned by white strangers minding your own business. My mother taught us to not answer…point blank period & growing up to call her at work & she would have an officer dispatched if necessary. I didn’t grow up fearing police officers, she taught there’s good & bad in every occupation.

  3. Guy filming has lived in that house for 20 years yet that lady claims she knows the person that lives there. 🤔

    1. She must have assumed she would have remembered if a non white person lived there. She didn’t see a white person using a dangerous weapon such as a piece of chalk she needed to say something – do something.

      Think she is racist and at the very least has no idea is she.

    2. Its my understandig the man lost his job and major contracts were cancled for her cosmetics buisness.

    3. @Rich E&r i doubt she can afford to live in his neighbor hood any longer they lost their jobs

  4. It’s just so sickening why people are riddled with such hang ups throughout the country. So, sick of the, “have since apologised,” thing. They do that when they’re in trouble. Not because they’re, “sorry.”

    1. @Pieter Faber no it’s not a fart you smell that’s dierrhea on the streets in Catholic Nancy Pelosi district

    2. @Pieter Faber how does it feel to be a moron not for the facts or the root of the problems in our Country and racism isn’t even on the list but heres a little secret its democratic policies race baiting fatherless homes and no family values and nothing in this world is free

  5. Why should any citizen have to give any information? They have ZERO right to ask details, that’s police work not citizen work. Unreal.

    1. @Yellow Cake If you don’t understand I can’t help you. I’ll leave with this…PC/politically correct only goes so far.

  6. For one at least the police knew something and didn’t even get out of their car. Now they also have some idea of why some people call them out.

  7. The way she lied!!! “We know the people that live here”…and he’s been there for 20 YEARS! 🤦🏽‍♂️

    1. @A R
      white fragility, and privilege has no party affiliation, gender, sexual orientation, and exist across the political spectrum.

    2. He wasn’t the right color to live their , probably walked past him everyday and thought he was somebody’s handyman.

  8. Well, certainly wouldn’t want that man doing my investing if he doesn’t have the critical thinking to see a giant BLM flag in the window and figure the chalk writing on the wall was going hand in hand.

    1. Does he even watch the news if not, you live in SF where progressiveness sprouts like weed… Even dogs know the concept of association but this man failed to see what was smack right in his face…this is scary dumb!.

    1. YES!!!!!!!! A PIONT Well Made By You And All Who Are Citizens Of This Nation Of Ours!!!!! But I Guess Most Of Us Never Read Animal Farm It Is Such A Shame George Santayana.

    2. @Crystal Giddens trump is doomed, the rest of America will be quite fine once he’s gone comrade.

  9. So did that woman say she knew the person who lived there… To the person who lives there!? Wow

    1. @Error 404 did you even see the set up on his painting! It would be obvious to anyone with a brain that that man wasn’t a spray can Tagger!

    1. @Bonnie L For all that it’s worth, I don’t believe there is much more “stirring up division” to be done. When people see their countrymen and -women as “enemies”, just because of a difference in political view… You know what humans tend to do with enemies…

  10. I would imagine the time is now, to end such racist Behavior Google, when white supremacist overthrew a government Winston-Salem North Carolina 1898, Barry goldwater’s operation Dixie 1960, Richard Nixon’s southern strategies 1964. Unfortunately Black America after Jim Crow have been experiencing, Republican political party propaganda and manipulation for over 60 years. 1960 – 2020

  11. “You don’t participate in your own dehumanization”…..Whew! If that’s not the whole damned truth. Tell them!

    1. Exactly! The other thing that bugs tf outta me is that the “follow the law” ppl acknowledge his drunkenness to justify him going to jail. But his fight or flight response was a bad decision as if he made it of sound mind?!?!

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