White House Killed CDC Order Requiring Masks On Public And Commercial Transportation: NYT | MSNBC

Olivia Troye, former aide to Mike Pence on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, affirms New York Times reporting that the CDC had intended to require everyone on public and commercial transportation to wear a mask, but the Trump White House blocked the order. Aired on 10/09/2020.
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White House Killed CDC Order Requiring Masks On Public And Commercial Transportation: NYT | MSNBC

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    1. Proud to be an American, but mortally ashamed of the leadership that has been inflicted upon us by a minority of our voters.
      For the record, I voted against The Chump in 2016, plan to do so again day after tomorrow, hope to be first in line when early voting begins.

    2. Vote !!! Trump
      Wants all Americans to catch covid19 Herd immunity is typically accomplished when enough people are vaccinated against a virus, but a vaccine has not yet been approved for COVID-19.

      The idea of allowing the virus to spread uncontrollably is gaining traction in the White House, where Atlas is advising President Trump, who is battling his own case of COVID-19.

      Atlas told The Hill in an email that he attended the meeting and supports the declaration the group put out endorsing herd immunity.

      Biden Harris 2020 make America safe and free again from the Trump virus and Russia

  1. At this point it’s not a surprise anymore. This inept administration must be kicked out and sued for all the damage to the country.

    1. Stats are now out! We are on track for 2.8m deaths i the US for 2020. Guess how many we have had for the previous 3 years? 2.8M.

    2. @Jeffrey Dahmer when there are 10 cases , this was fake news . When there are 3 million live cases it is a dahm lie

    3. China will be sued for $2 trillion. And Trump will collect $1.5 trillion next week when he repudiates government bills owned by China.

    1. @InspiredByEbonyLove Ok JR. I’ll explain it since you missed 10th grade Civics class. In America at least…
      The CONGRESS is made up of THE Senate, which you correctly Identified Moscow Mitch McConnell as being over, although his position is called The Senate Majority Leader. The 50 men and women who comprise The Senate are called Senators, AND The House of Representatives, often refereed to as simply “The House” or sometimes “Congress” because the 400+ men and women who make up THE HOUSE are called CONGRESSMEN or Congresswoman. It’s leader is called The Speaker of The House or simply The Speaker, and that position is occupied by Nancy Pelosi.
      NOTE that the FULL LEGISLATIVE BRANCH of the Federal Government is THE CONGRESS. It has TWO parts, the SENATE and THE HOUSE.
      Was that simple enough for you to comprehend?

    2. @Brotha in Beijing The mere fact that someone like Trump can be elected and do so much damage without impunity should tell you pretty clear the structures are NOT ok.

    1. Or mandatory isolation in contracted hotels, for 14 days, for all returning citizens. with 2 tests, one after 3 days, & one on the 14th. With the borders otherwise closed to all travelers except for rare exemptions. Then consistent testing and gene sequencing, and effective contact tracing. With instituted lockdowns, either suburb, city, regional, or nationwide. Mandated social distancing in certain situations, various and well-explained levels of restrictions when necessary, clear explanations of all of it from a competent leader, and a population of community-minded people to heed it all and look out for each other to make it all work.. That has been NZ strategy and has succeeded in 2 outbreaks. Melbourne’s outbreak was similar, but they had more capacity to test more people than us, with Melbourne testing 2.2 million people just in Melbourne, pop 5 million. Hence NZ with our strategy now has zero community cases & zero restrictions. Melbourne had a massive outbreak that got up to 800 cases in one day. They now are down to 7 cases in one day after 2 months of lockdown/restrictions/strategy..

      The White House alone, has more cases than Melbourne, a city of 5 million, denser than vast majority of cities in America, is now getting daily. And Auckland, in NZ, is a 3rd of NZ entire population of 5 million, so Auckland is about 1.8 million, plus however many remaining tourists, backpackers, & foreign students stayed behind. Remember NZ has generally about 2-3 million tourists every year, plus about 200,000 to 300,000 foreign students generally, both groups of which are generally left off the census, and it’s unclear how many stayed behind to ride it out. Melbourne has about a million extra people or more at any one time, uncounted in population stats, due to huge tourist numbers & 500,000 residing foreign students. So for both Auckland, NZ, & Melbourne, Australia, and actually NZ & Australia in general. The argument that our outbreaks are made easier because of population density is completely redundant, because particularly Australia, but also NZ, are both heavily urbanised. Particularly Australia, which is one of the world’s most urbanised countries. And Melbourne & Sydney, have had a huge growth of apartments & inner-city living in recent years, with 10s of thousands of apartments built in skyscrapers in just 6 years in Melbourne. Density has nothing to do with it. If that was the case then only heavily populated states & only big cities in the US would have major outbreaks. But as it is, there is not one single state in the US with less cases than Australia has had total..

      America is in the mess it’s in because of gross incompetence, gross negligence, & there is no leadership and no plan.. The insane are running the asylum.

    2. @Colin Mahoney probably I’m in the BOP and it hasn’t been much of a problem here,,we certainly social distanced and contact traced ,but with the social distancing Covid didn’t get to be a problem,but if it had broken out here I would definitely have worn a mask everywhere,it’s basic common sense

    1. @Jeffrey Dahmer How is that weekly paycheck you are receiving from Putin to support the TrumPutin campaign ?

  2. Of course they did. Somewhere in Russia, Putin is laughing hysterically. He got more than he could have ever imagined by helping get this imbecile elected to office.

    “Russia, I hope you’re listening…” 🥴

    1. @macbeth moray seriously. I think it’s 10% of the worlds population has been infected.
      Brainwashed leftist celebrate the murder of 60 million babies than act like the morality queens they are when 110k die.

    2. @Mark bodman WTF do this has to do with murdered babies? Again what a joke of a country. No1 in comfrim case. No1 in covid death. Doing worst than India and still saying it did a great job. To top it off a president that get himself and white house infected. Ya make America great again right? Ya USA the greatest country ever right? The world is laughing. No this is not a morality issue. Its an issue of competence and the competence level of the great USA in handling this pandemic is a joke. Seriously how can you guys do worst than India? The world is laughing. Every country is telling their people how much better they are doing compared to USA even India.

  3. I told you 6 months ago that the government needs to hand out swastika and confederate masks so republicans will wear them.

    1. Most Hated

      Yes. But the investment advice you gave was the most important item.
      My “Adam & Eve” stock has gone way up since I purchased those shares.

    2. Jeffrey Dahmer BS my governor is a Republican and he did the same thing Cuomo did with nursing home. They are still taking Covid patients.

    1. @Bill ,The use of herd immunity without a vaccin is a ridiculous concept. For starters: Nobody knows if it works for Covid. If immunity ladts only 1 year, it is senseless. There are allready patients reported who got infected a second time. A lot of people will die before you can get herd immunity (if it is even possible). Since there are allways new children (not immune) born and people dying, herd immunity will disappear over time and a new epidemic will start. Nobody knows if that epidemic will be less severe.
      When you have a working vaccine herd immunity is necessary to protect everyone. The herd immunity can safely be maintained by vaccinating young children and maybe the use of booster shots.

    2. Okkie Trooy Not to mention, some folks have *already* become infected twice — so there are at least some cases when immunity does not even last a year! This whole fiasco is just jaw-dropping —

  4. Trump is not a leader by any stretch of the imagination. A true leader actually cares about someone or something other than himself. Trump is the antithesis of what a leader should be. A true leader believes in serving a cause greater than himself. Trump has never believed in a cause OR a power greater than himself.

    “Ultimately, leadership is not about glorious crowning acts. It’s about keeping your team focused on a goal and motivated to do their best to achieve it, especially when the stakes are high and the consequences really matter. It is about laying the groundwork for others’ success, and then standing back and letting them shine..”
    — Chris Hadfield

    “A good leader takes a little more than his share of the blame, and a little less than his share of the credit.”
    — Arnold H. Glasow

    “It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.”
    — Harry S. Truman

    “The biggest mistake any of us can make in these situations is to misinform, particularly when we’re requiring people to make sacrifices and take actions that might not be their natural inclination. leaders in a crisis have to give the people the truth. Speak the truth. Speak it clearly. Speak it with compassion. Speak it with empathy for what folks are going through. The more smart people you have around you, and the less embarrassed you are to ask questions, the better your response is going to be.”
    — President Barack Obama

    1. @David J,
      Not a leader?
      – Trump is the first President in decades to tackle the TOP three political problems with America!
      #1 Too many American minorities especially in impoverished neighborhoods!
      #2 china!
      #3 Illegal immigration!
      – What did the obama/biden leadership do in 8 years? NOTHING!

    1. @Aidan Kiriakou you’re not sounding too Educated. You sound like a person that steals people’s bachelors degree online

    2. you always know your real enemy when the media does nothing but bash trump, isn’t this america? so why must we continue to wear masks? it’s enough already, this covid19 agenda is old already, 911 we lost our rights to terrorism now it’s a virus, you either have rights or you don’t there’s no middle ground, and whenever the government starts shutting down the country in the name of “keeping you safe” we very alert, next step is mandatory vaccines, it’s all agendas being implemented stage by stage and american’s don’t even realize it, they’re consumed daily with thinking donald trump is the root of the world’s problems…no, you have a media and liberals who are destroying this country, it’s basically socialist, america is socialist now, that’s what you call liberalism, no values, no rights, no morals, less rights, restrictions in public now with masks, and social distancing (another buzz word) and people have no idea that the country is being disassembled, but yeah, joe biden is going to save the country lol, he’s going to rebuild the middle class, ask him how he’s going to do that without bringing back the jobs and economy that your criminal representatives sent over to china in the first place, starting in the 70’s…here’s a word of advice if you want your country back, DON’T VOTE, stop voting, these politicians are not going to help you or save the country, i mean for god’s sakes how many lies does it take for people to grow a brain? how many elections? it’s 2020 and people still think voting is going to do something lol, YOU NEED A NEW SYSTEM A NEW WAY, biden is not your answer, and trump is not the answer, YOU, need to get off your butt and get involved and take it back, but you won’t, as long as you have your netflix and smartphones and soda you leave it to daddy, the government, and that’s did us real good hasn’t it?

    1. @Christine Mushala agreed. And how about their innocent children who will go back to school or are already in school spreading it to our children. 😎

  5. Trump’s lies and downplaying of the coronavirus pandemic will be remembered as the greatest dereliction of duty in presidential history.

    1. @Emdotreed Take care.

      EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU VOTE ANYWAY! This could be a scam to make people think that he will not be reelected so that they don’t bother to vote.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I
      #TrumpLiarInChief
      #MrTrumpTestItOnYourselfFirst
      #TrumpTheOrangeGod
      #TrumpTheOrangeAlien
      #PussyGrabberInChief
      #TrumpIdiotInChief
      #TrumpHitlerReincarnated

    2. @Arnold Fossman Warms the cockles of my cold heart, especially in that most of Trump’s advisors are co-conspirators.
      As for voting, Polls in my state open Monday, 12 October, at 0700 in the AM. I plan to be first in line.
      Anyone reading this who’s voting for the first time, remember, there will probably be amendments, proposals referendums, down-ticket elections, a lot more to it than just the presidential election. My advice is to look up your precinct’s sample ballot, read the measures, and take a crib sheet to the poll. This will help you through the process more quickly.
      Just get out there and VOTE!

    1. Trump is going full on scorched earth now.
      And he’ll ramp it up in lame duck if he loses the election to punish the US.

    2. @macsmith2013 
      Gee, I don’t know what I would have done without your valuable advice. Thanks ever so much for your asstoot contribution to the discourse. I trust you are pleased with what you sincerely believe to be a clever remark.

    1. Zachorazor1 yeah that too …. what’s the civil infraction where you creat a hazard ( say hole in front yard ) and neighbor kids come over out curiosity, fall in and injure themselves? That’s what this stupid rally is ! Form of negligence that will get strict liability.
      This is greeting spiritual , karma etc ,
      Can’t hurt children if the world and not pay consequences.
      The Devil already come to collect ;
      If Trump doesn’t die within a month , his life cut way short . Once heavy dope wears off , he dead man walking with respiratory damage , cognitive damage , and cardiac deterioration from all the broken hearts ( 200k their family & friends included) “ we all in this together “….. are you kidding .
      We all walking around banana peels with roller skates . Trump is 🦨 stinks to high heavens

    2. @Steven Griffin
      Trump stands tall opposing the beast system that took your soul, flyboy, you lap the devils keyster like a dribbling schnauzer..
      You’re brimstone casket bait.

    3. @Wigg Spackle (chuckle) he said with his evil pumpkin face emoji…. aren’t you the best little psycho trumpturd out there?

    4. @Emdotreed
      Bimbogreed
      Im jo grandmammas sisters stepmammas baby mamma, Sunshine, thats why you wear speckled panties and raspberry lipstick when you trick MLK blvd in your Gucci pumps. 💋

    5. For what? Passing a law that a large portion of the population would refuse to follow anyways? let’s look back at the last few months all the parties that were still going on, What about the salons and other non-essential businesses opening despite being told to stay closed. Speaker Nancy Pelosi herself was at a salon getting her hair done despite the order for the business to stay closed and without a mask on herself. Parties were so out of control in California authorities has to threaten to turn off people’s utilities for a set amount of time if they were caught with a large group of people at a residence. Every recommendation given by the CDC and President Trump for our safety has been broken nationwide.

    1. Vote !!! Trump
      Wants all Americans to catch covid19 Herd immunity is typically accomplished when enough people are vaccinated against a virus, but a vaccine has not yet been approved for COVID-19.

      The idea of allowing the virus to spread uncontrollably is gaining traction in the White House, where Atlas is advising President Trump, who is battling his own case of COVID-19.

      Atlas told The Hill in an email that he attended the meeting and supports the declaration the group put out endorsing herd immunity.

      Biden Harris 2020 make America safe and free again from the Trump virus and Russia

    2. HOW TO DESTROY AMERICA! Secretary Pompeo@SecPompeo / Feb 4 – USA Sent PPE to CHINA > US government account  >> Proud of our rapid facilitation of the delivery of donated life-saving personal protection equipment and medical and humanitarian relief supplies to the people affected by the #coronavirus in #China. Grateful to the generous U.S. organizations donating to the relief efforts. American Nurses wore Garbage Bags FOR PROTECTION. __/ “On February 7, the WHO warned about the limited stock of PPE. That same day, the Trump administration announced it was sending 18 tons of masks, gowns and respirators to China.”  – American nurses wore garbage bags for protection.

  6. This was exactly what Rachel Maddow were talking about a while ago. Are CDC muzzled? Now we know. Yes they are.

    1. @Teresa S they locate some nonsense that support their agenda and they publish it as if it is truth. Our news is fake news but we are supposed to believe theirs, I don’t ever click on the links.

    2. flugsven too many people shuffled about. Typical trump chaos, I was watching. The moves, cdc, then post office, not to mention the crooked cabinet.

    3. Mark bodman Science have debated masks. However the latest I heard most agree masks are not perfect, but it’s better to wear one than not.
      Not for the mask wearer, unless you wear a special expensive mask, but for those around the wearer. When all wear a mask we protect each other and That’s when it’s most effective. Check out the death toll in South Korea.

      You showed me Russias view, via RT. And no, Russia don’t have luxuries such as free independent media. Not inside the country and certainly not abroad.

    1. @Frank Winkhorst  What she’s saying is otherwise correct, so I don’t want to slam her too hard. But yes, people automatically undermine their point by seeming not to understanding something as simplistic as apostrophes.

  7. …. and Pence in his debate with Harris said the Trump Administration was doing all it could against covid19 …..what a bald face lie .

    1. casadekarlito exactly. At least Trump is what he is and he doesn’t typically pretend to be a good Christian. Pence claims to be a man of God but still supports and defends Trump. I simply cannot reconcile the two. Pence is the biggest hypocrite I’ve ever seen.

    2. Guys discussing these things here is good and fine but for the next month we need soldiers to head into Republican safe spaces like Fox News or breughtbarts channel or the blaze Candice Owens wherever and start speaking facts in their echochambers. They need to know trump had his lawyer set up secret abortions for republican mistresses, or how much he is in debt to Russian oligarchs, his 15 year friendship with Epstein. Spreading the truth here isn’t going to win the war. We need volunteers to spend the next month starting debates on Republican channels.
      Any volunteers willing to step up???

    1. Did you ever wonder what it would be like to live through the Spanish Flu, the Great Depression and the LA riots simultaneously, while Biff Tannen was in charge of an Idiocracy?
      Hypothetically, of course.

    1. @Lisa Zabriskie I think what he is saying is we have Russian trolls on these boards who are trying to help trump get elected. These accounts are usually ones recently set up and have no content. And most of us take huge offence with Russia interfering with our election.

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