Rachel Maddow looks at some of the few instances in the United States where coronavirus testing has been possible beyond people who are already symptomatic, and the results have revealed a surprising number of positive cases. Aired on 04/20/2020.
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Where Testing Is Possible, Way More Coronavirus Cases Turn Up Than Predicted | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
Testing and contact tracing is key…trump is incompetent…that should be obvious to everyone at this point.
@unworthy42 what is pizza gate or lock her up? How do you convince a corporate media robot that it has been programmed through language? You are simply an algorithm owned by a technocracy.
It isn’t obvious to idiots that would be most hardcore chump supporters.
@C G And, you’re nut…owned by bad chemicals flowing thru your head. You sure attribute a lot to a shadow group that can’t get its robots to stay indoors for two weeks.
@unworthy42 the robots are staying indoors, the humans are working right now.
@C G So, you’re indoors right now…ergo you are a robot?
I hear numbers like 60-70% of the population could become infected with tRumps CovFeFe 19 Morona Virus! Is it possible that everybody could be infected?
@Mark Huffman – the death rate depends a lot on the numbers in serious hospital care at one time. The trick is to spread the load over many months and avoid the Italy situation where a lot of older people were left to die due to lack of ventilators.
PPE only protects if used correctly and removed correctly, otherwise you get infected from touching it. Health workers are at high risk as they can get very high virus loads. Pray for your daughter.
@Mike N https://www.globalresearch.ca/stanford-antibodies-study-wraps-up-shows-covid-19-50x-more-prevalent-50x-less-deadly/5710147
@Dan – yeah, I’ve read that. It’s results are disputed as the death rate is mainly based on whether local hospitals can cope with the ICU load. If the infection rate is restricted then that rate can be low. In hard hit locations there had been a very high death rate. It is hard to get any ideas from the US as testing rates are so low. This is particularly true in the Midwest where the virus is currently spreading very fast.
@Mike N f all the people that were intubated on a ventilator 98 % died….
@jan van ruth – most evidence shows that about 50% of intubated patients die. That figure is however from Europe where only those with a decent survival chance are ventilated. In many cases Covid hits the heart etc as well as the lungs. In places like Germany only about 20% die, as those infected were younger. In rest home patients, 80% die.
Note there is a big difference between ventilation via a mask and via a tube down your throat.
precisely, ty dr maddow. when they test more nursing homes/long-term care facilities the rates will be similar i fear. please stay safe and stay home everyone. we will get through this, together.
You will be pleased to know that there is more and more evidence that this disease is far less lethal than originally projected.
“In the new analysis, the death rate in confirmed COVID-19 cases is estimated to be 1.38%, while the overall rate, which includes estimated unconfirmed cases, is calculated at .66%.” WebMD
https://www.globalresearch.ca/stanford-antibodies-study-wraps-up-shows-covid-19-50x-more-prevalent-50x-less-deadly/5710147
fyi, there are a number of russian trolls in the comments section, even one below. they can be most easily recognized by a check of their channels. they will have no content. that together with making outrageous comments or replies to other comments are the best indications. please don’t feed these trolls, and i mean this quite literally. they receive about 85 rubles for each comment or reply to their comment. just downvote them and move on. they can be reported if they use nasty language or bully someone or spam the page, otherwise please just ignore them. if they don’t earn any money here then they will move on. the same goes for other comment sections on other videos. they are out in force, but we can make them leave by not feeding them 🙂
also, i strongly suggest not taking medical advice from them or believing their version of ‘facts’. trust dr fauci, the cdc, and other medical scientists instead.
@mary jones I just wrote a long reply, copied in case it didn’t post, which I dont’ think it is, have tried twice & it vanished, so will try it in 2 parts, but sorry if I’m multi-posting here cause it is sending
:'( (hugs) That’s sad! We’ve had so many inquities into nursing homes & management in the last couple of decades that what you speak of is largely a thing of the past now, so I guess I wasn’t really thinking of that, but I know what you’re saying with it only too well from what ours used to be like
Schools, yeh you MUST have testing capacity to be able to do that! Anyone with a possible case MUST be able to be tested or it would be a disaster! Early on, we got 15 cases from Wuhan & caught them all & elimianted the virus for a month, but then we got a handful of new cases, mostly from Iran & we had one case that was presumably asymptomatic, becasue we never found them, but over a period of 2 weeks, that presumably 1 person infected 2 schools, 1 hospital & 1 nursing home & those schools then went on to have interschool activities that caused cases in more schools & the nursing home had a childcare centre visit them, which ended up with no cases, but that needed another 50 odd tests so as to avoid a massive spread from there & so on & so on. We STILL, 2 months later have unidentified cases on the Northern Beaches of Sydney, presumably due to the contact a school there had with the school that was infected by that asymptomatic person in Ryde (about 30kms away) & so we’re still needing to do mass testing on anyone with symptoms of a cold in that are in order to try to weed out any remaining cases, so yeh, remove the testing & it would be a total disaster if even 1 missed case here can do this! We were actually low in test stick supplies at the point when that infection happened & that is largely why we lost control. If we’d have enough tests available, we would have gone in hard & tested the entire school populations & everyone else possibly exposed. We’re now developing sewerage tests, with the intention of doing constant testing on that & any suburb that gets a positive test, going into & testing everyone in the suburb to find the unreported cases & isolate them & once that’s operational, that will stay in place until well after the vaccine’s been distributed, possibly forever, cause tht’s what it’s going to take now due to that period of a couple of weeks where we reduced our testing numbers.
The test supply issue is real for countries like ours (as in both) China, Korea etc can just produce their own of everything, but we don’t have that ability, realistically though, we’re 4 months in now & 2-3 months of indisputable evidence this is a long term battle, so there’s really no excuses for not having set up the in country infrastructure & production facilities at this point in time! PPE is a huge issue with testing too, since even when the person stays in their car for the test, the procedure still invovles sticking a swab WAY inside their nose, which makes the person sneeze, which sends the virus airbourne & into it’s most contagious state, so very high level PPE is required for every test done! Again though, by now there should be enough supplies available (although that said, your demands for supplies are much higher than ours when we have only 170 odd people even in hospital with this virus countrywise, not sure how we’d go sourcing the sorts of levels of PPE you need there right now)
Closing schools & daycare does have a huge impact on the ecconomy & country’s ablity to cope with this virus though, so it’s crazy how trump talks about wanting to focus on the economy, yet he fails to take the action needed to allow the economy to be far better managed! Same with non-life essentail supplies, if stores selling them can be kept open, it has a HUGE impact on everything, with jobs still happening & spending still happening & a general sense of normality still in palce for mental health & general infrastructure kept operating to help a return to normal later. I’m not going to say closing them was wrong, cause our cousins in New Zealand did that & it’s worked for them & we respect everything they’ve done in handling this virus, but we’ve put a HUGE focus on watching other country’s mistakes & sucsesses & copying everything we can to reduce our learning curve & interestingly, NZ has actually seen a slower decrease in cases compared to Australia. Again, both coutnries are highly competent in managing this, both will be eradicating it over the next few months, so neither is doing anything wrong, but NZ went for a full on 1 month lock down of everything, Austalia went with a staged lockdown, reducing step by step what was open & opting not to go very far at all, but making it clear, that once something locked down, it was down for 6 months! It’s going to be very interesting for scientists to unpack all of this in the future & try to figure out why our approach got a better result than NZ’s. Anyway, where I’m going with this is that keeping general shops open, or re-opening them, if done by a government with competent managment skills, may not be a huge problem, obviously though a total lockdown is safer & you’re really not in a position to take risks right now are you! We were worried we might have screwed up when we didn’t go as hard as NZ, was 2 weeks of crossing fingers & praying from the government, while waiting to see if it had worked!
_”if we could just do the right thing, only essential workers going out except for the rare grocery runs”_ realistically though, we’re doing this because our government’s paying us to stay home & guranteeing no evictions of service disconnects. WIthout that, many people really can’t 🙁 Also, our ability to buy those jigsaws etc actually keeps us occupied at home & so increases compliance with staying home. People go to a toy or hardware or craft store to get stuff for a project they’ve been wanting to do for years & then go home & have a great home holiday, really enjoying that time to be creative or spend with their family
@Dan If that’s the case, your detection rate is only 6%! Here’s a study showing detection rate, based on a death rate of 1.4% https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/severity/global_cfr_estimates.html (table of current estimates is the relevent tab)
@mary jones Are you refering to Dan, or another comment that was deleted? That’s fascinating re the pay, I didn’t realise that & will keep that in mind in future! Thanks for that information! I’m not convinced Dan is a troll though, his info has sound sourcing behind it & is consistant with the thinking of many scientists studying this. It’s not nessesarily right, but it’s not wrong enough to be trollworthy imo, info like this is good for us to be looking at & evaluating & considering, cause it has impolications in terms of spread, if it is right, it means it’s prevelence is double what we are working to right now & that needs to be considered in policies of management & contanment
My neighbor died a week ago from covid-19 I live in a small town in the California Valley
I am really sorry to hear about your neighbors passing and make sure you stay home, stay safe, and stay healthy ):
I’m so sorry! I lost my best friend since 25 years. They moved to Spain 7 years ago. 50 years. Heavy smoker, died of cardiac arrest like a flash from a blue sky, I mean he wasn’t in a severe condition or else he would have been rushed to ER. Edit: Diagnosed with COVID-19.
I’m so sorry. Much love and stay safe.
Thanks to all the positive comments
Sorry to here that.
Grammar fact: A gazebo of Republicans is called a “cowarding”.
Yep that’s why they bring their guns to a peaceful protests.
@Annette a – Wasnt talking about you. But C G, GUN CONTROL, Mind Freshener, and Rodney Boehner are all known russian trolls. Its what russians do now and have been for at least 10 years. #EvenDuringPandemic #Trolling4rubles
@C G 🤦♂️
Yes. The entire Planet are Democrats, only alive to hurt you Republicans in any way possible. It’s like 160million of you versus almost 8billion of the others. And our acting is just so amazing, that we can play dead for real.
Republican protestors: klandemic
Trump, Trump, Trump!!!
Finally the u.s became no1 in the world of most people died because incompetence handling of a pandemic! 🤔
@Rodney Boehner Yeah right ! trumpers sure know a whole lot of nothing.
@Rodney Boehner you are deplorable psychopath racists lair con artist arrogant Americans without education.
Not just in deaths, where we nearly double the amount of our closest competitor; in actual confirmed cases (not counting the 8-10 times more the experts think is the actual case, thanks to lack of testing… something backed by places where they HAVE been able to institute testing nearly everyone) we are at nearly FOUR TIMES our closest competitors. Yep, WE’RE NUMBER ONE!!! Time for that old victory lap, dontcha think? I’m sorry, but with a situation like this, there really is NO way you can abuse sarcasm….
@ishtarian well said! 👌👍😉
@ishtarian Dopetard is really the grandmaster of evil and death. 45= Doctor Death.
It occurs to me that if we had the potential for more testing, we would obviously learn where the concentrations are, but we would also see large number that would contradict Trump’s position that this “thing” is under control. Trump has said all along that he “doesn’t need bigger numbers”, and his actions have been constantly against higher counts.
@Cleon P. your blind hatred for Trump is more dangerous than the virus. Don’t jump on the bandwagon of hatred because the idiots on your television all make fun of Trump and hate him. That blind rage and hatred you hold in your heart will destroy you if left unchecked.
@C G You mean eggs?? 🐓🥚🐣
It appears someone’s been indulging in a cure.
@Nura I trust cannabis way more than a botched vaccination made from aborted fetal cells. Only the demented would want to be vaccinated with aborted fetal cells. I’m perfectly healthy and happy. I don’t know about you.
@C G Do you have the right to risk other people’s health because you are as healthy as an ox. You haven’t got the right to PROJECT you equal intelligence of that ox
@C G You know the virus that came out of Area 51, planted by the aliens overlords 1000 years ago so as to enslave us in the future? 🙁
I feel sorry for my friends in the US. Trump and his administration looks very cruel human being cruelty to his country peoples
@Lilac Lizard Typical libitard. How many cases does Papua New Guinea have? 50 at most? PCR is a time consuming tests requiring multiple cycles to amplify viral DNA/RNA. Then you have to sequence it on gel electrophoresis. To do it on a scale of 100,000+ is going to take time, like a couple of weeks.
S Korea went with IgM antibody ELISA tests, which can be done in 5-10 minutes. It’s not as accurate, but time was of the essence during the infancy of the pandemic because that’s also the narrow window to stop the virus in its tracks. That’s why no one was as well prepared for the virus than S Korea.
If you ever get your edumacation, maybe you can come and talk at the adults’ table.
@Rodney Boehner Hey Russian. You obviously missed the point that I am a Republican.
@Dan G What? 1954 McCarthy Republican? You sound like a Manchurian candidate the way you talk. It’s not 1954, mate. So don’t talk about hunting witches like a libitard.
@Rodney Boehner I’m tired of dealing with you Russians. Go ahead and say whatever sewage you want. I’ll let you have the last word.
@Dan G Then stop bending over for them, McCarthy! We all know you bend over for China too, Manchurian Dan!
Americans should look into what happened in Milwaukee and Philadelphia in the 1918 pandemic and the outcomes.
@Rodney Boehner Republican philosophy 101: “What you don’t know won’t hurt you” so it’s best not to learn anything.
Coma White I’m not one to call trump supporters intellectually challenged but why is it consistently 40% of Americans that think this way. Is this the lower percentiles of the intelligence distribution? Is trump also a member? It may be that come November there are less around given their current behaviors.
Americans just need to look to Italy or New York for the facts but facts don’t sit well with this POS POTUS and his sycophants!
I’m pretty sure they did until the asshat dispersed that team….Learning is bad.
Rodney Boehner
You’re actually trying to make this argument? GTFOH!
That suggests that the virus has been in the country for a much longer time than expected!
@Rodney Boehner If it’s that obvious, quit saying it started in China, US has it for so long now. Happy? Hope you are.
lot of americans dying from what they thought was a bad flu as far back as november. fact.
Brandon Lim
That’s very possible. One has to wonder about those mysterious “vaping” deaths. Contaminated vape cartridges?
@keir farnum Yes, and suddenly that is now a non-issue.
@keir farnum Yes, and suddenly that is now a non-issue.
I n Ontario Canada our new cases plateau extended when testing increased exponentially. This virus is persistent and this is a place where testing and health care are free at point of delivery.
@Mark Huffman ok Mark..you go ahead and pull the lever for that two-bit, 3 card monte playing con man with a stripper for a wife. Flaws you say…
@Mark Huffman Jan. 22: “We have it totally under control – It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s — going to be just fine.” Jan. 24: Trump tweets, “It will all work out well.” Jan. 30: The WHO declares a global health emergency. Jan. 30: Trump limits some travel from China. But Americans can freely travel anywhere, even China, and do. Jan. 30: The same night, he holds a campaign rally in Iowa. Feb. 2: Trump tells Fox News host Sean Hannity, “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.” Feb. 10: Trump says “Typically, that will go away in April. We’re in great shape, though. We have 12 cases, 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now.” Feb. 11: WHO names the new disease COVID-19. Feb. 14: Trump says “very small” number of U.S. coronavirus cases “Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.” Feb. 23: Speaking to reporters on the White House lawn: “We have it very much under control in this country.” Feb. 24: Stock market plummets as Dow Jones Industrials falls more than 1,000 points. Feb. 24: Same day, Trump asks for $1.25 billion in emergency aid. But says the virus “is very much under control.” Feb. 26: Community spread of the virus identified in CA. Says US is “really prepared.” Feb. 26: Trump claims “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people.” Feb. 26: Again says “And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” Feb. 26: Says “it’s just like the flu.” Feb. 27: Trump says “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.” Feb. 28: Tells 14,000 people crowded into an SC auditorium how only 15 people have it. Feb. 28: Also says “The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. This is their new hoax.” Feb. 29: Says a vaccine would be available “very quickly” and “very rapidly.” Mar. 2: Says the flu is worse and that “here, we’re talking about a much smaller range.” Mar. 4: Tried to blame Obama admin for pre-2006 processes, even though everything was still “fine.” Mar. 4: In an interview with Sean Hannity, Trump calls the WHO’s estimate of the global death rate “false.” Mar. 4: Goes on to say those infected can get better by “sitting around” and “going to work.” Mar. 5: Pence says “We don’t have enough tests today to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward.” Mar. 6: Trump contradicts Pence saying that “Anybody that wants a test can get a test.” Mar. 6: Continues, “People are surprised that I understand it. Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability.” Mar. 7: Says “No, I’m not concerned at all. No, I’m not. No, we’ve done a great job.” Mar. 9: Trump bashes Democrats for sounding the alarm “far beyond what the facts would warrant.” Again says “flu is worse.” Mar. 11: Trump is still more concerned with the stock market and injects billions into the economy and suggested a payroll tax as a solution for a pandemic. Mar. 13: Trump finally declared a national emergency, a month and a half after WHO. Mar. 14: Trump lies about “precise screenings were being done at airports.” Mar. 16: Trump now starts saying “We have a problem that a month ago nobody ever thought about.” Mar. 23: Trump vows to “open up country by Easter.” Mar. 23: Trump says deaths by suicide “definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about” for COVID-19 deaths if people lost money. Mar. 25: Trump accuses Cuomo of “Death Lotteries” but wants “packed churches on Easter.” Mar. 31: Says “I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.” Mar. 31: Trump now says “Many of my friends have all said it was just the flu. People with actually common sense [sic]. But this is vicious.” Apr. 1: Pence – “Every American can have a coronavirus and they don’t have to worry about the cost.” Apr. 1: Pence – “Grocery Stores made a commitment to the President that no grocery store in America will close down.” Apr. 3: Trump fires Atkinson, Intelligence IG, for following up on Ukraine “whistleblower.” Apr. 3: Trump nominates one of his White House lawyers, Brian Miller, to oversee the Treasury’s ENTIRE 2 TRILLION DOLLAR bailout fund. Apr. 4: Trump in regard to Chloroquine, an unapproved experimental treatment for COVID19: “What do you have to lose? Take it.” Apr. 6: Trump says “It is wrong” regarding Heath and Human Services IG report of “severe shortages of testing supplies and excessive waits for results.” Apr. 10: US DAILY death toll exceeds 2000. Most deadly day in multiple states. Apr. 10: Trump says “Everyone has the ventilators they need. We’re in great shape in every way. Staying at home leads to death also. Maybe a different kind of death.” Apr. 10: Trump says “Somebody said it’s totally up to the President, and it is. The states can do things if they want. I can override them. I have great authority.” Apr. 10: 71 days after WHO declares a global health emergency Trump says “I didn’t think of it until yesterday. This is a big decision” in regard to “opening the country” May 1.
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@Donnie Draftdodger When you get a chance, give me a blow by blow account of your Premiere. It’s been pretty entertaining so far . . . but he sure looks good. Clearly, he is a really sensitive guy. Shows he can cry. Says the right words. Seems appearances are a lot more important than content with him. Oh, except for that brown face thing. His elitist attitude is a matter of record. Many records. I still laugh at ElbowGate. Plenty of instances where he clearly puts ethics aside, with no apologies. Pure elitist at its finest. Are you proud of his standing in the international community these days? Canadians should be embarrassed on how little aid you provide the rest of the world. Right at the bottom, I think. But words are more important than actions, I guess. Maybe you’re proud of these things. I am glad Canada is finally tired of being on the U.S. dole. About time. Seems you ought to worry less about our mess down here.
President Trump definitely has a problem with his mouth. However, our President is calm and optimistic. His optimism is helpful in these times. Reality almost falls short of optimistic claims. But it makes good fodder for Trump haters to pick apart these things. Churchill got it wrong a lot in WWII, loaded with unrealistic optimism. Sure didn’t make him a bad wartime leader. Many flaws, as well. JFK, a true study of a man with many major personal flaws. Right up there with Trump. But he probably kept us out of war with Russia. President Trump has the same leadership qualities expected from our Navy Seals, per our Rep. Dan Crenshaw. Retired Navy Seal. Five tours of duty for our country. Dear Mr. Donnie DRAFTDODGER, I imagine you’ve got problems with him, as well. He is a conservative.
For the record, I am definitely not a supporter of Trump’s personal life. I didn’t vote for him. (My values couldn’t be more different. Married to my high school sweetheart for 46 yrs. Devout Catholic. Pretty old fashioned and definitely conservative.) I have never called any of our Presidents names, regardless of the political affiliation. Does name calling feed the ego? Seems the only thing it serves. It amazes me how often liberals resort to name calling. I thought they were considered the ‘educated and sophisticated’. I have respect for the Office of the President, duly elected by our people. I support President Trump’s policies and his actions. Hopefully, he will get our Supreme Court back on track with American values. He’s made some great headway. We’ve been killing unborn babies long enough. This has the liberals on their hind legs down here. He has just about gotten most of Obama’s actions nullified. Some more work to do. Clearly, our economy has benefitted, as have our people. A long time black Georgia (my home state) liberal Congressman just threw his hat into the ring for Trump due to how his own culture has been lifted. Of course, rather than respect his opinion, the liberals immediately started a character assassination campaign because he broke rank.
That wall is looking pretty good to a lot of people right now. Liberal California is now begging for Federal money after they have totally squandered their immense resources with countless stupid spends and utterly ridiculous policies. And now the liberals have offered Joe Biden as their best. Wow. Now that’s a dude that’s tuff to defend in any respect. Clearly you have MAJOR problems with our President. You’re entitled to your opinion. We’ve have had plenty of great/good presidents with major character flaws, for sure. I remember liberals bashing our President Reagan relentlessly in a very hateful way. History has a way of clearing these things up over time. Maybe we can aspire to your Canadian standards one day.(LOL).
Finally, China, WHO, CDC, European Leaders, etc. They all got this situation right from the beginning? Right! It’s all President Trump’s fault. Oh, I forgot, I’m “full of it”. Take care.
@Donnie Draftdodger huffman is a troll, stop feeding him
@jan van ruth If he is not a poor retired farmer as he claims its hard to imagine what kind of a vile creature he really is!
And that is why the trump regime seems to be making an effort to make widespread testing difficult or impossible – it does not help trump’s false narrative of “all is fine!”.
@Susan Sullivan So disappointed. Was hoping you’d keep it civil with a sincere debate of the facts. My grandchildren argue the same way. Name calling and hurtful comments. Peace be with you.
@Mark Huffman Wow. You’re quite the precious widdle snowflake. Susan calls Drumpf a turd and tells you to keep your head in the sand and that disappointed you? Get a grip. How exactly was that uncivil with name calling and hurtful comments? Do you always cry this much when people make harmless comments to you?
@Blondie SL #walkaway #neverBernie #neverBiden #neverCriminal Pedocrats gotta go
@bigpimpdaddy69 hey limpdickdaddy69, looks like something’s gotten under your skin. I’m cool and chillin’.. It’s entertaining seeing how Trump haters are such idiots and I’m having a ball. You come on down to the ATL and we will see who’s the snowflake. You’re too funny, dude. but….I do like your choice of music. Knopfler is God.
@Tom Matlock ROFL
Oh wait.
#ROFL
Well gee, it’s like the President and his supporters don’t want testing to reveal the _actual_ number of infected people.
@bink bee I wonder if they can ask Mossad’s world trade centre demolision squad to help with the implosion detonator layout 😁
@David Adams 🤣
@PTStu – yeah say no to ALL this NWO BS…
Time to get huge! I say no to Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030, but unfortunately I think Nancy Pelosi and others already sold us.
His “happy numbers” chart is a joke….And I’m not laughing…
This is why trump doesn’t want testing done….. he thinks it makes him look bad. He doesn’t care about saving lives he cares more about image
On target there,
Let them eat cake so sayeth the Ice Cream Queen……
“The voters have been extraordinarily patient with stay-at-home orders imposed by their governors and willingly incurred enormous financial risk for the greater public good. Likewise, they have shown remarkable self-control as their lives have been upended by wildly inaccurate projections by overcautious Beltway bureaucrats. Now, they have had enough and are hitting the street. Lockdown protests have expanded to at least 20 states, but Democratic governors have been encouraged to ignore them by cynical partisans like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). When asked by Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday” if she could sympathize with the protesters, Madam Speaker answered in the negative:
“No, not really, because what we have to do is shelter-in-place. That is really the answer.… I do think that it’s unfortunate — but you know people will do what they do. The fact is we’re all impatient. We all want out but what they’re doing is really unfortunate.… And so, does it serve as a distraction? Yes.”
It’s absurd if not outright obscene for Pelosi to claim that “we’re all impatient,” as if everyone is suffering equally from the lockdowns. Few laid-off employees of retail clothing chains, coffee shops, and fitness centers can ameliorate their financial anxieties with an $11.60 pint of ice cream retrieved from a freezer that costs more than their cars. Nor can they put up with power-drunk decrees from Democratic governors like Gretchen Whitmer (D-Mich.), who has not only banned travel, boating, and golf but also sales of garden tools and paint that Michigan residents could use to beautify the homes that have suddenly become their private prisons. This kind of craziness is, of course, what sparked the protests.”
601salsa Have you only just worked this out???🤔
@DLANOD PMURT SI RUOY TNEDISERP sounds like you’ll be in a body bag soon…
Pretty sure he KNOWS it’ll make him look bad–…so let’s hide the truth.
It would be good if at the end of this crisis that America takes a good, hard and long look at your for profit health system.
@Dan it would be hard for someone like you to believe that I’m sure. Just shows your character. Let me guess, you’re the kind of guy that passes by someone on the side of the road with a flat? You think everyone joins the military for Stellar pay, and safety? You need to add some moral fiber to your diet. Otherwise you’ll wind up a spineless draft Dodger like Captain bone spurs. He might be wealthy, and that might be okay for someone who measures their success in life by their wealth, or what kind of car they drive. But you are morally bankrupt. Your so-called motives and incentives like much to be desired.
@Dan you also seem to be very very ignorant about the so-called American Healthcare System. You seem to be unaware that we are the only industrialized nation in the world that does not provide Healthcare to its citizens. You also seem to be unaware that America spends far more than any other Nation on Health Care, and that a single-payer medicare-for-all system would save us nearly a billion a year. You also seem to be unaware that America Falls far behind other industrialized nations in providing Healthcare. So much for your theory financial gain being an incentive. I would much rather have someone treating me who gets a out of character, not financial incentive. I know it’s hard for you to believe that people like this exist, because you’re clearly not one of them. As far as what drives someone to want to help another person in need, is something you can’t be taught, or something you can explain, it’s something inside of you which you clearly lack. And since you lack that moral fiber, hopefully you can see, if you do some research, it would save us money in the long run, and save millions of lives if we just did the right thing. Instead of feeding the corporate greed, and big pharma, this corrupt system who profits off of people sickness.
@Dan you’re welcome for that free education you socialist. LOL
Ever noticed how corporations love to socialize the losses, AKA bailouts, but privatize the gains. Hypocrite much?
@Dan how naive are you to think that they would even want a vaccine. When you use money as an incentive, you attract agreed. You make a lot more money off of treating an illness than you do curing it. Ever hear of a condition known as polio? Do you know who created the vaccine and how much he made off of it? He made nothing. He gave it away. I’m sure to you that seems crazy and stupid. Once again just goes to show your character. Do you find it hard to look in the mirror sometimes? Your moral compass is all out of whack buddy.
@Dan speaking of character. I have noticed in all my time going through comments fro all the right wing Trump cultist, I have not encountered one that uses their full name and their picture. Brings us back to moral fiber again. Words like integrity and courage. Something Trump has neither of. Apparently nor do his supporters. They must keep their balls in their wife’s purse.
Trump: “It’s simple. Stop testing and the numbers will go down. This crisis is caused by testing.”
@Cleon P. Your response is puzzling. Either the corona fever has you in its grip or you are still bitter and angry over Hillary getting her rectum reamed by the real estate businessman from NY.
The best and most successful President ever sends you his best regards.
@DLANOD PMURT SI RUOY TNEDISERP Nah,not bitter or angry about the nonsense you claimed. I’ll just have to refute those regards from the best at doing nothing and most successful at losing American lives—…Hard pass on the real estate mogul who put 6 casinos (they make money) bankrupt!…America’s next. By the way,I’m safe,SMART,and healthy.Jethro….
@Cleon P.
LOL……….what will you do when Durham makes the recently FISA files open to the public? Unredacted?
LOL………..what will you do when Durham, who ain’t the criminally incompetent Mueller, issues indictments?
LOL………….It is a fact that you are bitter and angry over the 2016 loss.
She’s a drunk. He’s the Prez.
Get over it.
Trump: my numbers are the best…
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Y’know, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that this Trump fella may not be all he’s cracked up to be.
@bluehorseshoe444
You need to leave the herd once in awhile. Try reading some sources other than the same press that had Hillary at 98%
Like this:
“It is impossible to overestimate the number of American lives saved by that momentous decision by President Trump on January 31. And no media or Pelosi false narratives or phony Biden campaign ad can change the truth about the real chronology of the coronavirus.”
https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/31/the-real-coronavirus-chronology-shows-trump-was-on-top-of-it-while-biden-was-mocking-the-danger/
“Crenshaw said “we were in a fact-finding stage in February”… but that’s simply not true… The CDC and WHO were giving presidential briefings back in November ”
So far the credibilty ratings of both organizations is on par with yours: zero. Both lied or suborned lying.
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“Trump got rid of the CDC global pandemic response team that was actively working on multiple viruses that came up over the years…
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Never happened.
More Rachael Madcow lies. I read once that progs never learn from experience. They doggedly keep trying to make socialism work, irrespective of the monstrous genocide and failure that is its history.
You are living proof that progs never learn. One can go on Youtube and find millenials braying about how wonderful the USSR was and the Holodomor? Capitalist lies.
Rock on. Trump is still the President and you aren’t.
@DLANOD PMURT SI RUOY TNEDISERP You just proved my original point… right wing nut job.
I’m done with you.
@bluehorseshoe444
Donald Trump and I laugh at your corruption and weakness beta.
I disagree. He IS as big a CON MAN and FRAUD as we think he is.
Ya reckon?
I’m amazed that this guy Trump is president. He’s got the intellect of a drunk that’s been hit by a runaway train. 😖😬🥴
@astev52 I’m not one with such a fragile ego to go off on contemptuous tirades about random youtube comments, but will suggest that you research the word “irony”
@Spore Hux In the mean time, let me restate this fact, trump is there, because he has his own propaganda network, called Fox News. Rupert Murdoch has been spreading the same sort of propaganda in Australia and the UK. He, and his network are the ones propping trump up, if it wasn’t for him, trump would have been gone a very long time ago.
@astev52 yep, Sky news in Aus is following every thing fox are saying..as soon as you hear it on fox Sky will blurt out
the same nonsense the very next day. thanks Ruprect..
Sorry to cause all this trouble about a train of thought. I think Metaphor Man must have fell off a wagon train when he was younger and hit his head on a boulder. 🚂😖🚂😬🚂🥴
@Spore Hux I’ve added an explanation below regarding Metaphor Man and him going off track.
If only this virus had started overseas so there had been a chance to observe and prepare for it. Oh, wait a sec….
@Zachary Early the fact that you just pointed out that I “think” they are a socialist country..says all we need to know about you tbh
Trump was ridiculed by media and the left for being racist when he initiated a travel ban from china. Lol and now you all criticize his lack of action. Omg if you could hear yourself. Lol
There was rallies and golfing…no time.
@Dan Of course I can hear myself. I can hear myself telling you how Trump told us it was no worse than the flu. And when he said it would magically disappear by Easter. And when he said a malaria drug could cure it. And now when he’s backing morons who resist social distancing. But you cannot hear me: your head is filled with crap put there by Hannity and the other Trump sycophants at Fox.
@clc Nobody is blaming Trump for it spreading over Europe. Liars like you create straw men to fight when you cannot defend against the real accusations.
you know, governments across the globe can charge China, WHO, whomever they want. at the end of the day its the lack of individual governments to act as swiftly as they should have- those deaths in those countries are on those governments. lay blame where ever they want, their slow action in their own countries are on them. the likes of trumps advisors are responsible for his inaction, up to now, and they should remember the internet doesn’t forget. we remember what they all said about this being a hoax, bla, bla. we will remember those that advised trump not to act as swiftly as he should have – fox and gop. we will remember.
Those governments would have failed their citizens in any pandemic situation or world disasters with their incompetence and ignorance.
Have you forgotten how this was downplayed by the left and media at the beginning calling Trump racists for banning travel from China. I swear the mental gymnastics you must be capable of is incredible.
@Dan ：Trump’s early move to ban travels was purely political, it aimed to weaken China’s economy not to protect American people. Why? Because he didn’t think the coronavirus was any threat back then, he thought it was a flu therefore did nothing after China travel ban. No increase of production for PPE, not even testing much at all. I bet he thanked the coronavirus for the upper hand in this trade war, how little he knew that the table turned so quickly.