Before the Senate can hold its impeachment trial, the rules need to be settled upon. What are the key issues? CNN's Michael Smerconish discusses with scholar Hilary Hurd. #CNN #News
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Trump and His Old Cronies, Are Showing Complete Lawlessness ! đ¤Ż
@ma,ma gee’s gospel Those aren’t alternate facts, have you been away on planet libtard ? Monday will give you insight on these so called alternative facts and the Durhams report will be the crushing blow later on the FISA, Dossier and spying as well as show bias. With demonrats getting locked up. Oh yes its real CNN and MSNBC as well as CBS has spun it for the brainless to think otherwise lol. Its very easy to fool the demonrats/ libtards for a time !
@Mean Martinni Bataan Biden said on camera how he told Ukraine he would hold back money unless the prosecutor was fired, How much more evidence do you need?
@Mean Martinni Bataan Who cares about Trumps sex life 13 years agol . At least we know hes not a pole smoker pervert
Biden admitted a quid pro quo with taxpayers money on government time. You need help libtard your mother and father must have been a real prize đŠ
And heâs going to win in 2020 too
Get your tampons and tissues ready!
MAGA 2020
Moscow Mitch NEXT.đ
Void of reason and fact and service to the Constitution and the country. It would be like a murder trial with other serial murderers as the jury.
i heard a story of a town of seral killer try to find out who was killing them Mr. creep good story
@elijah mikle Looks to me like a lot of Democrat supporters shouting destroy the GOP are wanting a one party country no opposition and let the demos just do what they like,very odd place america is becoming with students saying america has never been great,It seems white old men are the official group its ok to be racist too imagine going back to the sixties and telling 20 somethings when your 80 its going to be ok to say things like white pale and stale when your old.
was a time when democrats were normal people, now democrats are crazy & corrupt.
Jury of their peers
@elijah mikle unfortunately for your commie aspirations , its 4 more years of trump ,with more democrates going to jail .
Kim simpsons channel is keeping a record of crooks being charged arrested and jailed . A dozen demon crates in the last month .
They run and hide and cry like babies as they are sentenced .
. Moving up the ladder to killery and obummer . Who MURDERED seth rich ? Oh right , killerys henchmen.
Hold the bus. Donny’s missing n Rudy…
He’ll be back when it’s time to deliver evidence of DEMOCRAT corruption in Ukraine and THEIR interference in the 2016 election. Tic toc little bitches. đľđŤ
@Ed Dursky makes sense
@1 Hitter Christ, now the spin is drug user or dealer? More Right wing blogs?
I wish that one of the witnesses ask congress to have a vote ,, do you think it’s ok for a president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a rival and to hold back aid and a meeting until he says he commits on the air …. have a vote to see’s who says it’s ok.. I would like to know how they vote..
Lmmfao. You better believe its the president’s job to expose and make known corruption. What is illegal is Ukraine joe and hunter cocaine Biden taking 150 million dollars from Burisma. Watch the video of Ukraine joe bragging about it. The zombified sheep are truly amazing at being stupid
@Bryanx1964 hey Bryan, get used to the fact that trump is being rightfully impeached. There’s nothing you can do about it. He will forever be a disgraced president. Start getting used to hearing that because it’ll be in the history books your kids will read. No matter how much you want to believe he’s actually fighting corruption, he will never be remembered for that. Ever. Whether he gets elected for another 4 years or not, he will ALWAYS be the disgraced, corrupt, impeached 45 to the majority of Americans and to the world.
@Keith B It’s debunked by a SENATE,, investigating committee, that the Obama administration or the dnc, had anything to do with any accusations made by Trump, regarding spying or any wrong doing. A Senate committee. You know,, the ones that you Trump people,, admire.
@Scott Becker Exactly. But as was said, The senate made up a group of investigators already, and their report is,, no,, Biden and son did nothing wrong.
@Kennith Rich <--- got into politics yesterday after watching some Illuminati conspiracy videos on YouTube. Now he's a true patriot.
The senate will look like what they are, a bunch of Russian Oligarchs.
@Severus Snape
you should go sniff trumps diapers
you traitor.
What a stupid fucking statement. Are you 12 years old?
Its Ukrainian Oligarchs – duh! The Senate Trial won’t be a Kangaroo Court like the House with predertmined verdict of Guilt! using a hearsay inquiry to satisfy the Verdict! Why bother. It’s the C*oup N*ews N*etwork using a “harvard” academic as crystal ball of senate trial. LMAO! check out project veritas!
@Paul Belardo MAGA/KAG!!!!!!
@Hawkzblade poor Angry Liberal Snowflake! Get Ready to cry again as WE Patriots on the Conservative RIGHT win again next year!!! MAGA/KAG!!!! Vote RED to Keep America GREAT
It will look like a Party over Country spectacle
There will be No Impeachment because The Senate will NEVER vote for it……lmao….Cnn viewers are low I/Q inbreds..
@Randonlando dude you need to research even Elizabeth Warren spoke out on how the dnc rigged it to push Hillary its not a secret
@KeBaKeBuli i don’t care how intelligent my comments sound look at cnn sounds very proper but wrong 90% of the time this isnt a place to write exam paper its a comment board if thats your argument that lack of proper punctuation makes it harder for you to read it the don’t
Impeachment will be DOA since they have no proof of corrupted intent.
Republicans will use the senate time to get to call its own witnesses. Think we can all agree that corruption will be found with the Bidenâs.
Only a fool can pretend like there couldnât be corruption when a crack head loser gets a 50k a month job for a foreign Natural Gas company and when the company gets investigated Biden threatens aide if they donât fire him.
We know Democrats think heâs guilty. We know republicans think heâs innocent. Centrist support for impeachment has been steadily going downhill with the realization that they are trying to impeach based on democrats making assumptions.
With trump approval ratings climbing and impeachment support falling Republicans next move is obvious.
Let the process drag out so they can drag the partisan impeachment supporters through the mud.
Let disapproval of impeachment continue to build all while keeping Warren and Bernie busy wasting time in the Senate instead of campaigning.
So Trump gets to play the victim card on an impeachment that will never amount to anything while keeping his main opponents off the campaign trail.
Note that as support for impeachment falls the Dem nominees talk about it less and less.
A Senate Trial will look like a mockery of the judicial system it will be filled with circus GOP clowns with hearts of contempt and corruption!
There will be No Impeachment because The Senate will NEVER vote for it……lmao….Cnn viewers are low I/Q inbreds..
You do realize the senate is majority Republican right? Sorry to burst your uniformed egotistical bubble snowflake.
@MidScream1 https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2019/09/25/ukraine-prosecutor-hailed-trump-achieved-little/2447650001/
You should enlighten yourself.
@David Moore https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-admits-to-ukraine-military-aid-quid-pro-quo-tv-2019-11
Besides Trump’s own admission of guilt that you keep forgetting about.
I imagine it will look like the ending of Thelma & Louise
@Lake Nicaragua Real Estate the El Paso shooter himself said that his ideas about immigration predate Trump’s campaign for president. People have been sick and tired of the invasion occurring at the Southern border long before Trump even came into the picture. That this idiot did what he did wasn’t Trump’s fault, but his own… and maybe the Democrats for not taking seriously that people want something done about it.
@Lake Nicaragua Real Estate Funny you bring up the El Paso shooter, but you ignore the Dayton shooter. _Two mass shootings within hours of one another, in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio. These followed another mass shooting in Gilroy, Calif., a week earlier. The alleged perpetrators of the attacks were young, âlone-wolfâ gunmen. All three carried out carnage against innocents using high-power rifles. All told, Santino ÂLegan (Gilroy), Patrick Crusius (El Paso) and Connor Betts (Dayton) killed 34 people and injured dozens more._
_While the attacks are similar, the response from liberals and leftists has been anything but. Democratic presidential candidates Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders succinctly condemned white nationalism â the ideology espoused by the El Paso shooter in his purported 2,300-word manifesto. However, when it comes to condemning the Dayton shooterâs militant far-left views, all (especially TYT!) remain mum. Others, such as anti-police activist Shaun King, even claimed the Dayton shooter targeted blacks in a hate crime, though Âracism doesnât appear to have been a component of his twisted worldview._
_While Betts, the Dayton shooter, didnât leave behind a manifesto, his extensive social-media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired him. Federal investigators announced Tuesday that they are looking into his exploration of violent ideologies._
_Betts had long expressed support for antifa accounts, causes and individuals. That would be the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of âanti-fascism.â In particular, Betts promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement._
_âKill every fascist,â the shooter declared in 2018 on twitter, echoing a rallying cry of antifa ideologues. Over the next year, his tweets became increasingly violent. âNazis deserve death and nothing else,â he tweeted last October. Betts frequently flung the label âNaziâ at those with whom he disagreed online._
_By December, he reached out on Twitter to the Socialist Rifle ÂAssociation, an antifa gun group, to comment about bump stocks, and the SRA responded to him. (A bump stock is an attachment for semiautomatic rifles that allow them to fire much faster.)_
_In the months leading to his rampage, Betts expressed a longing for climactic confrontation. In Âresponse to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, âYes, Letâs Defeat or Impeach Trumpâbut What If He Doesnât Leave the White House?â the shooter wrote: âArm, train, prepare.â_
_By June he tweeted: âI want socialism, and Iâll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.â Last week, he promoted posts that demonized Sens. Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidyâs resolution against antifa extremism._
_Americaâs historical and contemporary struggles with fringe far-right violence has provided politicians, leaders and media with blueprints to identify and confront that form of extremism. The national unity in rejecting violent white-nationalist ideologues like James Fields and Dylan Roof are emblematic of Americaâs resolve against the far right._
_The unanimous rejection of the El Paso shooters beliefs, including by President Trump, once more demonstrated the nationâs resolve against hard-right hate. Yet when it comes to far-left violent extremism, there is a gaping blind spot in the mainstream discourse, and we are less safe because of it._
_Beyond banal condemnations of violence, politicians and leaders must work to uproot far-left militant beliefs from mainstream politics. The Dayton shooter promoted the same virulently anti-law-enforcement rhetoric that too many mainstream figures on the left flirt with. And yet it was courageous police officers who finally ended his carnage when they shot and killed him outside the Ned Peppers Bar in Daytonâs entertainment district._
_His case also makes clear that antifaâs violence goes far beyond the street hooliganism it has become infamous for. The group espouses the belief that liberal democracy is irredeemably oppressive â fascistic, even â and must be thoroughly destroyed._
_Hence, acts of extreme violence against individuals, property and the state are seen as stepping stones, bringing us closer to the collapse of society and a new, more just societal order. As anyone familiar with 20th-century history knows, apocalyptic ideas of this kind wonât stop with street thuggery._
_Last month, an antifa militant firebombed an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Tacoma, Wash. Police say Willem van Spronsen was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack. His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire. In his manifesto, he called for his âcomradesâ to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state. In one of Bettsâ tweets Âbefore he extinguished the lives of nine fellow Americans, he responded to a person asking if van Spronsen had been a âvillain or martyr?â_
_Betts flatly replied: âmartyrâ_
@Nu brĂŚnder Den STORE LUDERBOG!! Ummm…… Trump
Ooooooohhh my.
@Dave Schultz that stage of the impeachment process has come and gone. Move on. Schiff and Pelosi acted with diligence, probity and dignity. It’s now in the public record for all time, no matter how many worn troll slogans you cut and paste.
smart lady, great educational piece. i didn’t know there were senate trial rules. time to go read them.
@Nonya Bizness What caught my attention was when Hilary Hurd said the Senate can move to adjourn the entire proceedings at any time with 51 votes. Doesn’t this mean that Moscow Mitch and the Rethugs can vote to shut the whole thing down at any time? Did I misunderstand? Also, Hilary said that, with 51 votes, the Senate can choose which witnesses to subpoena. Does this mean that the Rethugs can stack the deck by voting to subpoena only witnesses favorable to Trump and excluding witnesses unfavorable to him? If so, this would make the trial a kangaroo court. Did I understand this correctly? What do you think?
Here’s a link to Hilary Hurd’s article explaining the rules. https://www.lawfareblog.com/imagining-senate-trial-reading-senate-rules-impeachment-litigation
@Nonya Bizness I’ve only read one-fourth of the article so far, and it asks the following questions: “Can Republicans dismiss the case quickly? Can Democrats force John Bolton and Mick Mulvaney to give the testimony both refused to give when asked by the House? Can Republicans move to turn the whole affair into a trial of Hunter Biden and his father?” These are essentially the same questions I asked you in my previous comment. I can’t read the rest of the article right now because I have to go take care of something. I’ll read the rest later. I hope you’ll have time to read it.
@Jon Stone great questions! in my reading of the rules, my take is that you heard correctly, that mitch makes all decisions not already spelled out in these rules- and it looks to me like part of the rules are that mitch can change most of the rules. a senator can ask for a vote if they disagree, and then the majority rules.
for what it’s worth, my thought is that although the repubs ~can~ turn this into a total reality tv sh*tshow for trump, mitch won’t allow it. (did you know that the senators are not even allowed to speak? they can write stuff down and hand it up.) every moment of this is going to be recorded in the history books, so i can’t see mitch letting himself be punked by trump.
in october, mitch said “I would have no choice but to take it up. How long youâre on it is a whole different matter”. but by mid-november, as impeachment looked like a sure thing, mitch said “âMy own view is that we should give people an opportunity to put the case on. The House will have presenters; the president will no doubt be represented by lawyers as well.â
this is going to be epic.
@Jon Stone thanks, thanks, thanks for that link!
It will look like a bunch of traitorsđ¤¨
There will be No Impeachment because The Senate will NEVER vote for it……lmao….Cnn viewers are low I/Q inbreds..
get lost impeachment doesnât require the Senate so…
get lost you just proved that you yourself are the one with low iq, nice job. Senate is not required for impeachment, a majority of the house is only needed for it. The senate is only needed for removal from office. Before you prove yourself the fool yet again for the umpteenth time, know what you are talking about
Traitors like mutany against a duly elected president?
We will see what Turning a complete BIND EYE to corruption IN SENATE and disavowing the constitution looks like!
I don’t go around calling everyone a Russian bot. That being said: You’re a communist.
CNN is a russian bot
You are completely blind to the corruption of Joe Biden. We had a Ukrainian company pay him $1000000 per year. Trump was totally right to ask for an investigation
Reading up on the âcorruptâ prosecutor, he had such a tough time too… EU human rights commission had to get him out of prison in 2010 because he was falsely imprisoned due to corruption. He was also in intensive care after some riot…. Now the Dems in the US are dragging him through the mud again, his life must have sucked…
Moscow Mitch and Lindsey Lickspittle will look like they’d rather not be there.
Hereâs a fine example of how leftists âthinkâ – If you’re paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes fit in a dog house? None! Cause ice cream doesn’t have bones.
Perhaps he was a truthteller sooner or later..we will find out
*You will see Republicans Russian cabaret dance in senate.*
@Dave Schultz and they stink too
https://youtu.be/Ak68nGqpKq0
Nope wrong again snow flake.
Would the Republican dance out do the Dems Ukrainian strip show? Yes! And The Do Nothing dems will be exposed then swept into the seer 2020! MAGA!
DC in panic. Coming to a theater near you? No, now showing at a theater near you. Enjoy the show. DT2Q2Q
They can only remove him as if putin
Ayhan Cetin agreed
was a time when democrats were normal
This slimeball is a snake wouldn’t trust him with a candy bar
@JONOVID I think power does that
Well, first and foremost the opening ceremonies should start with Moscow Mitch’s head in a noose, and throw in his filthy lying treasonous mail-order bride for good measure…
Faced with documents and facts it won’t look good for the accusers.
If they had “documents and facts” to refute the accusations, they would have been produced long before we got to this point.
Youâre an idiot, chief.
democrats can’t run a country. showing how they are crazy & corrupt.
@Inde mc – The White House is not doing anything until the Senate hearing, at that point they arenât in Kangaroo Court and canât be blocked from calling ppl for questioning. Look up Trey Gowdy for a teaser of what will happen.
List will include Biden, his son, Ukrainian prosecutor, and all the other ppl in the story who are actually relevant, we may even see Obama. This is Trumps dream, but if Trump exposed Biden that brings the entire Obama admin into question, they panicked… There will also be malpractice and abuse of powers investigations to follow.
Remember what Republicans did during the House hearings?
It’ll be more of that.