Trump Tries To Defy DOJ Edict That His Taxes Go To Congress

Trump's attorneys are again trying to keep Congress from getting his taxes after the Justice Department ruled that the former president must turn them over to lawmakers. MSNBC Legal Analyst Neal Katyal joins to discuss.
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    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  1. Treat him like the citizen he is! He’s NOT ABOVE the law or anyone else! He does NOT have special powers or special privileges! It’s a FELONY to defy Congress or the Law, PUT HIM IN JAIL IF HE CONTINUES TO DO SO!

    1. @allen benjamin Yeah, you’re right. I mean nobody has ever been convicted of crimes at both the state AND federal levels. 🙄😑

    2. @Diana Prince “Media sources” couldn’t substantiate any previous claims against the bad orange man this will all come to nothing , just like the other times they will jail the folks around him on unrelated charges . My position is still, if you have anything on him burn him, but be prepared to pursue the criminals within your own party with equal enthusiasm

    3. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  2. I suggest a public audit like the one in Arizona, where his tax returns can be investigated by private citizens and partisan corporations using UV light.

    1. @itzybitzyspyder tv
      They have that in spades, and Congress does not even NEED it. But since there IS probable cause, the NY DA’s have the returns.

    2. @itzybitzyspyder tv yeah, like going after Cuomo based on mere accusations and some of them just felt uncomfortable…

    3. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  3. His tax returns will show he owes loads to Russia (loans bought and items sold to Russians) and money laundering of Russian money. This is why he kowtowed to Russia. Putin can break him.
    He can’t run in 2024 if it is shown he is in the hands of Vlad…

    1. @Kathy Parrish no. Bots and trolls are not as eloquent and prescient as I am. Try refuting the corruption of Donnie’s ways sister.

    2. if his debt is so high that it could entice him to accept ‘donations’ from foreign agents and countries in lieu of ‘doing favors’ for them that kind of debt makes him a national security risk and therefore unable to run for any gov or state or senate office. this stipulation is in the constitution and its why all POTUS surrender or divulge their tax return information… to prove they are not a national security risk. the amount of debt Trump has on public record makes him a national security risk under this constitutional stipulation. if he’s in bed with Putin thats just an added bonus. in reality he has loan debt that originates in Russia and Azerbaijan–backed by close relatives of Ziya Mammadov, the Transportation Minister and one of the country’s wealthiest and most powerful oligarchs. According to the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index, Azerbaijan is among the most corrupt nations in the world. foreign business law says no one in the US may engage business dealings with foreign entities that have been sanctioned by the US or other countries..clearly Trump broke this law. the law states anyone knowing or unknowingly breaking this law will be held accountable. this is the type of thing Trump is trying to hide in fighting turning over his tax returns….he’s hiding the fact that he’s a foreign agent working on behalf of non-demorcratic countries because they secured loans for him when no company in the US would.

    3. your attempt to deflect and emotionalise is cute. Ineffective but cute. You may need a better game though. This one is pretty limp…flaccid really.

    1. @Okkie Trooy Because he used simple words… Even with that said… He says the wrong words… And have you not seen his speech? Not to mention he acts like a little kid and learn should take a L… I mean he says stuff its rigged or how its not fair… I mean I am glad this kid lost lol

    2. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  4. “Take a breath and see what happens.”
    That’s the second best advice I’ve heard all year.
    The first was in February when my doctor advised me to get vaccinated.

    1. It’s 8 months after a Fascist coup attempt and none of the leadership has faced any criminal charges… The knife is still in their hands and they still have their hands on the levers of power. They are stalling and it’s working.

      How long does it take to prosecute a TELEVISED coup in the information and surveillance age?

      The Capitol police who were on the right side are depressed, confused, and terrified… Why? Because leadership and their “brothers” don’t truly have their back.

      I will not breath easy until these Fascist traitors are held accountable. Because we are all in grave danger until they are contained.

    2. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  5. How can showing someone’s tax returns be a ‘gain’, political or otherwise, unless there is something in them that will be detrimental to them? Is this an admission of guilt?

    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    2. @L Proof Maybe they think that Trump will be president again? You never know with those delusional people.

    3. They will be able to tell by the amount of money you can tell if there’s more in there then there should be .

  6. What’s wrong with your taxes if you’ve done nothing wrong ?
    We remember you always said it’s being audited !

    1. @TheNostromozero he said he was being audited for four years! Like always a lie, no one is audited for four years. If he has nothing to hide turn them over! IRS was being manipulated by trump cronies not to turn them over.

    2. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  7. If he wasn’t hiding anything, this would be extremely beneficial, giving him a voice screaming “see? I told you I was innocent!”. He’s a very guilty man, and this is proving it.

    1. The IRS already has them right? So how exactly is this hiding them if you are keeping the cult of democrat from getting them?

    2. @Pistonrager hes hurting himself, if he has nothing to hide why spend all of your donated money to fight?

    3. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

  8. It’s gloves off when Neal starts using salty language like “cockamamie”.

    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    2. @Trailin’ Annie Were Buffett, Gates and the others in power at the presidency?
      How do we know the Trump money is legal? Where did he get it?
      Who did he help get US contracts with in return? If someone lent him money, did he show favorability to them?
      How did he afford the money for two ventures in Scotland when he was filing bankruptcy here?
      So many questions, so few answers.

  9. He’s doing the rounds and hoping he will eventually find a corrupt judge who will order them to remain secret.

    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    2. @Trailin’ Annie You’re conveniently ignoring the fact that the ONLY counties so-called “ballot audits” are happening in are ones where Trump LOST. And in some areas they are even knocking on doors demanding to know who each individual voted for. Trump lovers know nothing of tolerance.

  10. If there’s nothing unscrupulous or illegal to see there, then how would it be “political gain” for Democrats?? 🤔

    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    2. @Trailin’ Annie I think people just don’t get why he just doesnt turn them over? He’s the only President making it an issue? No other President had an issue doing so?? What’s the big deal? That’s what people don’t get. Why the big battle and fight? He’s making it worse on himself. It’s no biggie really. It’s not like he didn’t know he was going to be asked to do this. Any clue??

    3. @Pistonrager Well, I agree with them on that. He should never be allowed to become president ever again and I hope that they succeed.

  11. Trump’s complaint is they’re after his taxes to make him look bad? That would mean that he knows his tax returns will make him look bad. I thought he was a wonderful business guy and super honest, so why is he so scared to release the proof of his success?

    1. @Trailin’ Annie I have no “hate” for the manchild, I also have no respect for him either. He promised the American people that he would release his taxes 5 years ago and we’re still waiting. He is the one who made the promise that he is fighting to not keep. I am, you might be, everyone else left or right or in the middle are still waiting for and now wondering what the problem is. If you break a promise you just might get called out on it.

    2. @Trailin’ Annie That is ridiculous. Liberals hate ALL those people you listed for that very reason. It is asinine that the people making that amount of money, should not be paying their share. They hate Trump because he is the ultimate con man. And because he continues to con the country day in and ay out. They hate him because he spent four years lying his butt off. Every politician lies, but he took it to a whole new level. To get more air time he would say the sun was shining brightly as he stood in the rain!

      So don’t throw out the FACT in big letters bs. They are all hated. If they didn’t all step on the little guy to have those riches too, might be helpful. Some use some of their wealth to help others. Some do so for a tax write off (ha ha ha). Some are just con men the same as Trump. But none of them held the so called leader of the free world job. He chose to put himself in this position. If he had not run for President (and over half the population chose not to vote that year because they didn’t like either candidate), then he would have likely spent the rest of his cushy life with no arrows pointe at him.

    3. Cause he’s been lying to people for years he isn’t wealthy anymore he owes many people money that he doesn’t have that’s why he’s trying to get back in so he can continue to steal from the people .

    1. @MrJooxman You’ve got to accused of a crime, then an investigation is launched where evidence is collected and witness testimony is take. All I’m seeing here is personal tax information is being collected with out any crime being committed.

    2. @Kathy Parrish …well thanks! What’s first prize from a fascist? Are you going to cry out in pain as you hit me?

    3. @Trailin’ Annie “since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year” – what? Wait… where did you get this “FACT” from – do you work at the IRS – or is it a “fact” because the impeached former liar in chief said so? This should really wake you up then — “The IRS actually has a rule, in its agent manual, that if a person is audited and receives an assessment of zero (that is, does not owe additional money), the *IRS cannot audit them again for two years.* That means if Trump is telling the truth, then the IRS has repeatedly found discrepancies in his returns.” — So is he a regular cheater or is he lying?

    1. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    2. @Trailin’ Annie
      I don’t know what’s in there to find, but can you tell me if he’s so squeaky clean, why did he fight all the way to Supreme Court to keep them under wraps?
      Can you tell me why he lied while campaigning? He said “That is something I would love to do, but they’re curerently being audited. When the audit is finished, I’ll release them.”

      That was candidate Trump.
      Presiden Trump: “I have no intention of releasing my taxes. In fact, I will fight all the way to the Supreme Court to keep them from being released.”
      So, again, Annie; if he’s so clean, why is he so adamant about keeping his taxes from view?
      Your turn, and please note, I used no hostile rhetoric or demeaning language in my reply to you. No insult at you. Just said I don’t know what will be found. But why hide them?

    1. @Tessmage Tessera Then the Prosecution should force his hand so that he exhausts those avenues ASAP.

    2. @PIPE DOWN Then the old news should be that Mouth Piece Losers are in jail and the Republican Party has cleaned house of their trash.

    3. @omik redarhcs The need to keep it relevant. Trump tried to hide his taxes while in Office. Some of those are already public knowledge.

    4. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!!

  12. Trump and any lawyers he uses that waste the court’s time should be charged with contempt at the very least. He’s already a repeat offender in this regard.

    1. @TheNostromozero Innocent of what!!
      The first time we tried to give him a fair trial the most corrupt senate in American history refused to try him.
      Then came impeachment II and once again the same senate circled their wagons around him and refused to objectively and fairly try him. 🤦‍♂️

    2. @Adam Baum awe does that trigger you? Poor little snowflake. Must be tough living life on recruit mode. Let The Salt Flow little boy.

    3. A question for all the Trump-HATERS on this site: Even if the Democrat-led DOJ were to release Trump’s taxes for the whole world to see, since it is FACT that he has been routinely audited most every year, what fraud do you expect that the political leeches in Congress (none of which likely even know how to do their own taxes and who probably actually do cheat because they can get away with it) can shed light on that the brightest Trump-HATING IRS agents haven’t been able to find?

      FACT: We know that Buffett, Gates, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg, Dorsey and the like make many times more money than Trump every year AND pay LESS in taxes, in almost all cases less than 5% effective rate, yet liberals ONLY HATE Trump and only care about his taxes! I wonder if this would be different if these billionaires were Republican and not ALL Democrat??

      So, please tell me again about your ‘love & tolerance’? The only people ‘cancelling’ others are those that claim to be ‘loving & tolerant’!!

    4. @Trailin’ Annie if he’s been “auditted ” every year, why did he keep saying “I’ll release my tax returns WHEN the audit is finished”? He’s a Lying snake!!

    5. @Trailin’ Annie You should look up the definition of “fact” because you aren’t posting any.

  13. Fun Fact: “Capone was convicted on five counts of income tax evasion on October 17, 1931, and was sentenced a week later to 11 years in federal prison.”

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