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New data shows increased infections among children while some schools start to reopen. Aired on 08/10/2020.
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The Debate Over Reopening Schools Continues As More Children Test Positive | Deadline | MSNBC

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  1. The issue of COVID is not supposed to be political. Many people are suffering because some politicians believe reopening schools and reopening the economy is the best way to save themselves from losing the election this November.

    1. *The $600 Billion Man: A New Report Highlights One Cost of the Obama Legacy*
      May 2017 / The Wall Street Journal
      https://cei.org/content/600-billion-man-new-report-highlights-one-cost-obama-legacy

      *As if taxes haven’t been high enough, the U.S. Government also forced Americans to spend an eye-watering $1.9 trillion in 2016 just to comply with federal regulations. That’s according to the latest annual “10,000 Commandments” report released today by Wayne Crews of the Competitive Enterprise Institute. “If it were a country, U.S. regulation would be the world’s seventh-largest economy, ranking behind India and ahead of Italy,” notes Mr. Crews. He adds that our regulatory tab is nearly as large as the total pretax profits of corporations.*

      Mr. Crews has become one of the most hated men in Washington by tabulating the hidden costs—those not counted in the roughly $4 trillion of direct federal spending—that politicians and bureaucrats impose on the American economy. And nobody imposed more than Barack Obama. According to the Crews annual scorecards, the yearly cost of federal regulation soared by more than $700 billion in nominal dollars from 2008, the last full year of the Bush Administration, through Mr. Obama’s final full year of 2016. Adjusting for inflation, you can call Mr. Obama the $600 Billion Man.

      One measure of the amount of red tape spewing out of Washington is the number of pages of proposed and final rules printed in the Federal Register. “Of the top 10 all-time-high Federal Register page counts, seven occurred under President Barack Obama,” notes Mr. Crews. And let’s hope that Mr. Obama’s latest record, set on his final lap in 2016, will never be broken. Mr. Crews reports that the register “finished 2016 at 95,894 pages, the highest level in its history and 19 percent higher than the previous year’s 80,260 pages.”

  2. What is wrong with you America, these are your children, is there nothing more precious?
    Sorry I should have said is there anything more precious but apparently there is…..money.

    1. Not mine. My son is going virtual learning. All school needs to invest in Ipads and go on-line. Come on it’s 2020 it’s completely doable. Ugh.

    2. Hi from Oklahoma .
      An nope my kids are not going back to school .
      My kids mean more to me
      We don’t even let our children to leave our land infact only i go to town to the store if we need supplies ..
      I fought for my children ..an ill keep fighting for their lives ..
      May you stay blest

    3. america is in fear of a dictator named trump cause he is in no way a president or have the ability to be president. he is under the delusion that all of this is a tv sitcom and he’s a star again. americans talk about the constitution but even though it provides a way to remove a tyranical dictator, country hater like trump. those who could and should act upon it refuse to do so. probably because like trump, pelosi and many others who benefited from the ppp, and american tax dollars really don’t want him out as long as they have 💵 to gain from him being in the presidential seat – and let’s add bug corporations to that. I guess being a treasonous law breaking individual is the new norm and accepted qualifications for president in this country. all hail to the corrupt. SARCASM. brace yourselves for the next president cause living up to what you promise if elected is just a load of bull, say what the people want to hear do you can get the vote. works I guess bout not for everyone.

  3. So you open up too early and the virus infects more people, you don’t say, I guess republicans think the laws of nature dont affect them..

    1. Repubs don’t even comprehend what a law of nature (reality) is, much less concepts like casual relations.

    1. Yes, my Mom’s friend just died of covid. U feel like your starving to death every day until you die. The mother told her daughter she was hungry for 17 days straight. One person asymptomatic gave it to 50 people and killed 20. This was in Canada.

  4. It should *_NOT_* boggle the mind that the current President would threaten States to open up schools, and risk illness and dead, or he will withhold funding. Instead, it should boggle the mind that a person knowing this, would vote for him.

    *_“The American Republic will endure until the day Politicians discover that it can bribe the public with the public’s money”_* -Alexis De Tocqueville

    1. @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500 FUKOFF STOOPID. TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS ONLY WORKS FOR THE TOP 10 PERCENT

    2. @Mars Tru Let me guess, you consider trump to be a top-notch kind of guy. What simpleton does not understand the difference between Covid 19 and the flu? what simpleton does not understand that this is a new virus that behaves differently from previous viruses (that’s what makes it new)? what simpleton would think it is a good idea to send children into buildings with loads of other children, teachers, staff, in the middle of a deadly pandemic? I’m all for closing schools during flu outbreaks, but I think a better idea would be to get into the habit of wearing a mask. As for car accidents, why not have kids go to schools in their neighbourhoods so they could walk it. You don’t have much imagination, do you… that explains why your mind boggles at common sense. Poor thing!

    3. @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500 Let me guess, you believe global warming is a hoax…. Trump lies, cheats, gaslights, scams, retaliates. What he doesn’t do is achieve anything worthwhile.

    4. what’s happening in schools now is disgusting..i thought it was bad before; but thanx to this pandemic, a whole lotta nastiness that people are capable of is coming out..now, children’s lives are on the line so this country’s school system can collect its revenue for every student marked present on a given day..now, like a cold, flu or chicken pox, this virus is an excusable absence..having worked in this school system, my perspective is this: the virus is an illness – an excusable absence; so when children get sick, these absences WILL BE EXCUSED and the school district will still get its revenue, even if your child is sick and out of school for the rest of the semester..so, twice, they’re getting paid for what they’re NOt doing: educating your child, AND seeing to the safety and well-being of every student in any school..they lost billions when schools shut down in March: they’re looking to NOT lose any more – even if it puts children’s lives at risk..this is what the sales pitch to get kids back in the classroom has been about…………

  5. I don’t think they get our children’s are our future, without them theirs no future. We need to call this virus the Republicans virus, its not just a trump virus. Shame on you American. #REPUBLICANVIRUS2020

    1. @wildcatter63 Here Here. This is disgusting sending our kids to die. Schools in my district payed money to reroute air from outside rather than recirculating. I live in an area that is not a hot spot, but am glad our superintendent is trying to do everything to keep kids safe. Until after labor day the district is using online classes, has plans for checking temp before students get on the bus, testing temp again before student enter the building. When/if the schools open up all staff and students are required to wear masks. The district has plans for students who don’t have masked etc. I am proud of my community, not everyone follow guidelines but most do.

    1. Hoanglong Le You are correct about the shores but I believe you’re wrong about everything else because we have to believe in science and we have to believe what the scientist say in the United States has done a tremendous job in mitigating the virus, we have done everything possible that we could do and we have save lives according to the experts. But nevertheless thank you for your post that I hope you will continue to believe in science.

      https://nypost.com/2020/07/31/fauci-says-trumps-coronavirus-policy-decisions-helped-save-lives/

    2. T. R. Campbell I give trump a lot of credit for shutting down travel from China early. But after that it’s all downhill. Leaders lead by example and he’s done nothing but sow divide and false information.

    3. @Hoanglong Le
      It wasn’t “made” in China. It’s natural virus that probably jumped to humans in China, but that is hardly their fault.

    1. VladI yes children are small people and young so that they can’t remember not to touch their own face without washing their hands. They need distance teaching and other safe ways to be schooled.

    2. nowadays, they have as much ”life experience” as a 30-yo..i sure wouldn’t want to be growing today……..

    1. There is a spike in the infection cases because they are doing mass testing of hundreds of thousands of random asymptomatic people!! Something that has never in history ever been done. I want to shout this into the ears of every person in the world that cannot make the mental correlational. Test more people, more people will be found with the virus, that’s the most blatantly obvious statement ever made. Test hundreds of thousands randomly and wow there will be an influenza pandemic and common cold outbreak going on right now as well. The death rate is not increasing in relation but actually decreasing, which was completely predictable as that always happens with every pandemic. It clearly shows the virulence has weakened from antigenic shift and natural antibody T-Cell immunization from infectious spread through the population numbers. The spread cannot be stopped , and will continue until the virulence is snuffed to the extent nobody will even know it exists. This is empirical immunological fact that is well documented and understood in the epidemiological world for over a century and has been going on since pathogens and humans have co-existed. At least that’s how commonsensical and logical it was until the political world recently over ran the scientific world and they became the same thing… Its crazy times!

    2. @dean mushtuk – you’re pushing Trump’s BS line that it’s all because of more testing. That’s total crap, as is the rest of your argument.

    3. @dean mushtuk FUKOFF STOOPID. HAVING A TEST TELLS U WHO HAS IT. ITS NOT FLU SEASON YET AND 1200 DOCTORS AND NURSES HAVE DIED OF IT

    4. ​@dean mushtuk Have you considered that there is a spike in infection cases because there is more testing but that it could also be due to the fact that more and more people are not taking precautions anymore or never have? It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Just because more testing shows more cases does not mean that there are not more cases than would have been found two weeks ago or a month ago. If there had been this much testing a month ago, would they have found this many cases? more? less? The true outcome of the found cases will only appear over the course of the next few weeks. If the death rate continues to go down, then there were more positives due to more testing, but if the death rate goes up, then the test results showed an actual increase in cases. You talk about natural antibody T-Cell immunizaton but not everyone who gets infected actually develops antibodies, so right there is an unpredictable outcome. And that fact has nothing to do with politics. That empirical immunological fact that is well documented was totally valid until this particular virus. It is a new virus so why would it fit neatly into all previous virus patterns? And yes, I do know someone who had the virus, got very sick, survived and has absolutely no antibodies. They can get it again. So much for the natural antibody T-Cell immunization in this case. We can hope that the no-antibody numbers of people is extremely low. In the countries where the pandemic was used as a political tool, the spread and the death toll are much higher, so far. That was predictable: no countrywide effort to stop the spread equals a very efficient spread. Pretending to know that it will all go away in the warm weather, also a good way to spread an unknown virus. Common sense tells me: wear a mask when out and about, avoid crowds and being close to people I don’t live with and wash hands frequently. Keep it simple. If everyone did that, it would give science the time to catch up on what this virus can and cannot do. This is a temporary situation but how everyone behaves will determine how long it will last.

    5. @dean mushtuk The pandemic is way out of hand…,.,because of the Trump Administration….and I am REPUBLICAN<>>>>>WAKE UP!

    1. @Keith Johnson – Shelby GT500 FUKOFF STOOPID. U STILL HERE CRYING BECAUSE OBAMA WANTED TO REGULATE POLLUTERS LIIKE ALL THE PETRO COMPANIES. FUKOFF U STOOPID FLAT EARTHER

  6. It’s too dangerous for Barron Trump to be back at school and Trump cancelled rallies and RNC Convention because of safety but the Nations students, teachers, bus drivers and support staff need to reopen the economy 🤬🤒
    #DumpTrump2020
    #VoteBiden2020
    In numbers to big to rig.

  7. Washington State reporting 11cases of MIS-C in children, a serious illness children can get after being exposed to the virus. It is all 50 states and worldwide. All parents need to Google the symptoms of MIS-C and get immediate medical attention for an infected child

    1. In this situation it’s understandable, they have not done enough to protect these kids….so yes, as a parent it’s your right to make the call & do what’s best for your family…. and best of luck.

    2. @mike mann songs They’re doing online courses, both have taken college courses since their Junior year, so I’m confident they’ll be OK. I’m not so sure about the country, however.

  8. Louisiana is reporting its fourth death of a child with MIS-C, a serious illness children can get after being exposed to coronavirus

    1. It depends on where. Any many school districts where there are not many active COVID cases and conditions are not crowded, I would think we could accommodate in-person learning. We al want kinds to be back in school, but the federal government should stay of it.

  9. Trump is willing to trade the lives of kids so he can bring back they economy to get reelected. To tell the truth I think a lot of them would trade their kids to get Trump reelected.

  10. This is exactly why I enrolled my kids in distance learning. I believe what I research not what the news and Trump tells me to do.

  11. They are your kids. Do what you want with em. If you parents don’t protect them, I guess they are SOL. Because trump will sacrifice them on the alter of his pride just to get reelected.

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