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The Atlantic: America Is Acting Like A Failed State | MSNBC
We became a failed state when Dotard J Trump got elected.
I repectfully disagree. Please consider this. It’s been happening for millennia, but more recently for us it began w/ the Coup of 1963. It continued unabated and accelerated w/ Ronny Raygun and his handlers GHWB and the rest, in 1981.
Having Lyme Disease, (a biological warfare agent) since 1980, this current virus does not surprise me. How many knowing and unknowing victims of Lyme today will succumb to Covid-19? Lyme destroys your immune system. It also mimics over 300 other diseases. Your ‘healthscare system’ has no remedy or easy way to detect it. No standard AMA ‘doctor’ ever diagnosed mine or helped me. How many will die thinking it was a virus? Is this a way of covering up and avoiding responsibility for the ‘hidden’ Lyme pandemic? It began in 1975 in Lyme, Connecticut. Just sayin’. Herbs and alternative therapies heal Lyme. Who listens?
“Those who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their culture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.”
— Plato (2,400 yrs ago!)
“The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”
— Albert Einstein
“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.”
— Franklin D. Roosevelt
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
— John F. Kennedy
This too shall pass, and i can only hope that ‘wee the people’ will wake up, pull together, and be smarter and stronger…this time.
Still here? Bonus quote…
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”
— Albert Einstein
Be well…
@Michael Petrovich ???
@Low Spark you said “come on” so i ask is there a problem with what i said.
@Michael Petrovich no I loved… it!!! Sarcastic humor.. poor mr. President. . One can only feel sorry for him.
*Reagan
END TRUMP. *SAVE AMERICA*
John Buick haha still blaming Mother Russia. You beta.lols
@The Tweatles Keep praying
@Coco CrispCoCO Crisp why don’t you move back to Africa where there lots of COCO!
End communist China they are the failed state.
@Donna Caesar-Roberts Didn’t they recently land on the back side of the moon?
“If we would be a failed state, there would be massive looting, bribery and corruption” – has this man SEEN what the GOP has done?!?
I know right! Lolololol. David Brooks is so clueless.
Well you most certainly have a corrupt President !
So we should continue this trajectory till we see state wide looting and rioting?
Yep, not every looter uses a gun. The Senators who (ahem) “adjusted” their stock portfolios before releasing the information to the public…
Then why is it only Democrat cities failing with the virus?
what do you expect when you elect a conman who bankrupted every single one of his businesses,who is now running the country like a failed business
Democrats act surprised when hospitals are broken from serving 50 million illegal aliens.
We will remain a “failed state” as long as the GOP remain anywhere near holding power!!
@silverbird58 You are just all over the map… Lol
@silverbird58 I will not address you on the issues because you’re clearly unable to form a clear concise thought!
I will say however you need to get help for your PTSD.. Having worked with Veterans, I can spot it a mile away!
Good luck!
Drew Drewski – lol what? Obama got us trump you realize right? Obama promised change and the most he did was give us a republican health care plan. And Biden will be more of the same, Biden brings no fresh ideas, and nothing he advocates for will help income inequality in a real way,
The GOP didn’t bankrupt hospitals by letting 50 million illegals in… The Dems did that.
@I love tech That simply isn’t true…
Failed state??
We’ve been hugging third world status for a long time now.
This country has been getting looted for decades.
@Todd Kirby Are you trying to argue that we haven’t been headed in that direction for a long time, and accelerating there now?
Every since the charter of the Federal Reserve, add in Glass Steagall and Bretton woods and you have a recipe for disaster. All elected officials are in on the game they cannot speak out about it or there would be riots in the streets by morning. The banking cabal is gutting this country and the world from the inside out.
@Todd Kirby rotfl
@Todd Kirby what third world countries did you visit. I’m from a sp called third world, and I was shocked how poor certain conditions were in America.
@Todd Kirby ..
“We got money for wars but can’t feed the poor”- 2pac
@Winter Came Exactly.. Nixon kept the people poor & at odds just like Trump is. The only diff is their modus operandi.
Raoul Radio looks like just money flying out window for big corporations, while workers get $1200. Big businesses want to open after they just got their taxpayer “gift” now get back to work!
@Carol Miller
I havent read about any congressional discussion on taxing the wealthy. Why not?…
They all got off scot free long enough. We need those tax $$ more than the products they sell to the largest consumer market in the world. What if we dont buy? How’s that for incentive to pay up…
We help bring security to the world so the poor can trade and feed themselves.
Vote him Out two guesses – house & senate. Why would they pass a bill that requires them and their fat cat greasers to pay more taxes? We will have no middle class in about 5 – 10 years at this rate…
Yep, the wealthy get to quarantine, while the poor and middle working class are forced to risk their lives and the lives of their loved ones to serve them.
So true, you said it the best I’ve heard
NBA Sport figures and Celebrities get COVID-19 tests without symptoms, while the rest of us need to be half dead in order to get one.
@Hot Sauce
I am sorry guys that your gov knows how to spend trillions on useless wars
America has been failing since the 70’s when corporations started buying politicians.
dazzystars/
Our middle class is what distinguishes & defines our national economy. So to speak its the “backbone”. Its also the most powerful sector by the shear numbers of taxpayers.
The destruction of the middle class was the plan to bring USA to its knees. We can Thank Reagan for the “trickle down” BS that increased the wealth gap in a 30 year long stagnation of income for average workers.
At the same time the GOP was busy destroying Unions, gerrymandering districts, purging voter registration lists & rigging absentee voting in their favor.
Now they openly invite the help of foreign govts to win!!
SHAME on the corrupt Senate that gave those crimes their blessing!
@Vote him Out amen
@dazzystars The wealthy use hot button topics to divide & conquer the masses. Once we allow dissention among our ranks by fighting each other over race, ethnic, religious differences ..THEY WIN !!!
@Vote him Out I observe the Right, all around the globe, using immigration reform and fear to win the vote of the proletariat. It’s calculated and meaningless but is the only way for the Right to survive. I’ve also observed the Left is now the phiscal conservatives in the US. It has been the Left to reduce the debt and deficit this century while the Right squanders it all. Very interesting.
@dazzystars If you look back to 1950s every war or “conflict” has roots to GOP.
GW Bush & Cheney stole 1.7 billion out of US Army coffers in Iraq. That left our soldiers without needed body armor ammo & basic supplies.
They have been found guilty of international war crimes & have not been made to answer for their crimes! Its disgusting. Nixon committed treason to get elected but nobody that knew stopped him! Ford pardoned him. Thank goodness Trumps impeachment stopped him from pardoning his criminal buddies.
When you have a government that only responds to the highest bidder equality is a myth. We now live in an autocratic system designed by and for ten percent of the population. Everyone else is simply man hours to be manipulated by the ten percent. This will continue until the weight of corruption collapses the present system of crony capitalism. Hopefully a Democratic system of Capitalism will rise from the ashes.
Stacy Jaye But there is a huge difference living a life like you do today vs 50 years ago.
well said
@Stacy Jaye I see where you are coming from, and it is hard to argue against paying for another’s vices. The question is why do those vices happen in the first place? Most of the time, addictions are a result of mental health issues. Then there is the one that bugs me the most, popping out kid after kid after kid, when there is obviously no way responsibly take care of them all. Again, mental health issues are often the cause of this, but so is religion/miseducation. All of these problems can be greatly curbed through social programs. Paying into something that both you and your neighbors benefit from is not the same as you paying for them (not that that is what you believe, but I hear it all the time.) If we offered things like health care and higher education as public services, a lot of these issues would disappear in a generation or two. That does little for those of us alive today, but hey, you got to start somewhere, and being human means working for humanity.
Try this. Think of your perfect utopian capitalist society. It can be whatever you want it to be, and does not have to be realistic, or even possible. The only catch is that you don’t know where you will be born into it. Maybe you’d be in charge. Maybe you’d be as far down the food chain as one could get. What would you implement in order to ensure that you had an equal opportunity at personal success and happiness no matter what station you randomly pop into? Then take those same ideals and see if there is anything like them in reality? Chances are that you will quickly see that what it takes to provide equal opportunity is nothing like the reality we live in. And maybe that needs to change.
*Apologies for the rant. Stay healthy, yeah?
Socialism shows its true nature again.
@Deviant Affinity I couldn’t agree more. Your phrase
_”If we offered things like health care and higher education as public services, a lot of these issues would disappear in a generation or two.”_
is almost self-evident, any honest person can see that this is the very minimum that any modern society should / must have.
Well the federal government is being ran by a failed businessman who thinks he’s a mob boss.
@J Bell He declared bankruptcy six times and was a trust fund baby.
Bill Gates an actual good business man never declared bankruptcy and is self made.
Membrane556 he failed at that too! 😋
Membraine/
A loser wanna be mobster that the real mobsters robbed, then laughed at him all the way to their vault. 🤣😂🤣😂
@Rory_Breaker_70 Another book blocked from the shelves is “The Peoples Business” by Drutman & Cray.
It gives clues how to regain control of our democracy away from the corporations.
@J Bell Figure out what? The fact that we are being manipulated or by whom? Enlighten us.
George Carlin, “It’s a big club and you ain’t in it.”
Starcitys Starcitysm “you haven rights, you have owners, they own You”
@Tony Montana , True. You’re right.
Right !
Msnbc is
Carlin got it wrong. It is a small club and most people aren’t in it.
Bullies look strong when things are on their side, irresponsible when odds are against them. Only true leaders shine in crisis.
Pity there are none on either side now that Biden is the nominee..
@KOD I truly don’t think this is the democracy the country has been proud of.
There IS looting.
It’s just being done by guys in suits with Federal credentials behind their names!
@highwayrockstar1
The dumb assed Trump cult is working poor & Bible, Rust belt farmers. The former blue collar workers that corporations outsourced their jobs!
So they vote in the very same type of toxic white collar criminal.
Go figure.😷🤒🤧
Amen.
wHY DON’T YOU TAKE YOUR PROBLEMS TO THE man that could care less about you and laughs at you.trump.
Oof
C H E C K M A T E..
Society driven by GREED. Whole System is broken.
Milton Friedman said greed is good and has corrupted generations of people
We already have a system of bribery. It’s called lobbying and campaign bribes – donations. Our government is broken.
This. How lobbying was ever considered ethical is beyond me.
Citizens united v. FEC, Worst Supreme Court verdict ever
@QuesoCookies Legal Bribery
exactly. That is the reason we ended up with Biden, a corporation puppet, instead of progressive democratic presidents candidates like Warren or Sanders…
“Failed society” is exactly what we are.
great Move to Venezuela in confidence frog , i’ll’ help ya pack.
@silverbird58 If you need to compare the USA with Venezuela to feel good, something is wrong with the USA
Seeing white people are in control of this it’s their failed culture and State
@WachSein facts. Amis sind voll idioten.
I would like to know the break down by income who is living and dying.
Probably a breakdown including pre-existing conditions might also tell us a lot. Here in Australia our figures are very encouraging. Nobody under 50 has died and 90% of deaths were people over 70. We also have plenty of stats available: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-17/coronavirus-cases-data-reveals-how-covid-19-spreads-in-australia/12060704
It’s been a failed state for years. Ever since the 70s America has been in decline.
WE were only different for a while after 9/11 it did not last and neither will this all good will.
the Fail is the usa ‘s lack of will to stop buyng foreign made crap. <- bottom line dave.
Canada is doing better thanks to their health care system
it covers all Canadians
@Muc SALTO I’m in favor of universal healthcare. I think insurance is a special type of service that needs separated from the free market. But scientists still need free market incentives to innovate.
This should be a Universal Right, not a privilege like it is in the USA.
@Rose Dandaro it is a right. We have the right to pay for it.
@I love tech
the government in EE.UU preferred to invest trillions of dollars in military equipments and they forget to invest
in American health care 😏
that’s why EE.UU is paying the consequences now
the system in EE.UU is all private corporations companies the policy is clients no patients
@Rose Dandaro yes that is true
for almost 45 years the government don’t invest in health care for Americans
they only focus in military equipments bombs missiles airplanes and they forget get what a virus can’t do..😏