Supreme Court Sides With Trump Limiting Obamacare Contraceptive Coverage | Hallie Jackson | MSNBC

The U.S. Supreme Court sided with the Trump administration in undercutting access to birth control under Obamacare, giving the nation's employers more leeway in refusing to provide free birth control for their workers. The government estimates 126,000 women nationwide would lose birth control coverage under the plan. Aired on 07/08/2020.
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Supreme Court Sides With Trump Limiting Obamacare Contraceptive Coverage | Hallie Jackson | MSNBC

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  1. No contraception really now you’re going to have many more abortions absolutely ridiculous

    1. OriginalPiMan she’s saying without birth control, more women will have abortions, but That’s not true, women can just pay for their own birth control if they don’t want to get pregnant..

    2. @Sarahi Conde
      And if her budget is tight because minimum wage in America is so low? I don’t know much female contraceptives cost, but if it’s more than a few bucks then she may consider the gamble to be easier.

    3. OriginalPiMan so are you insisting that she can afford 60-200 for health insurance through her employer but she can not pay 30/month for birth control? Or a 12$ for a pack of condoms?

    4. OriginalPiMan why can’t she choose a marketplace plan outside of her employer that will offer birth control ?

    1. And that is exactly how DICTATORSHIPS get started.
      Eroding people’s rights and bullying people into submission.

    2. Blondie SL, everyone is misinterpreting this ruling. The court ruled the government can not prosecute these companies for acting on their religious beliefs. That is less government power, not more. And somehow people think this is enforcing government control? What an upside down world we live in.

  2. Well the Billionaires will be happy they can save money off the backs of their female employees loosing part of their health coverage.
    Its good to be American…. If you are a rich white man.

    1. @Paul Wilson You’re an ID10T, princess. Fullstop. You bottomfeeders should really know what you’re talking about before vomiting up nonsensical drivel. 🙄 🔇

    2. I’m sure the billionaires in the pharmaceutical industry won’t be happy. If you want contraception BUY IT YOURSELVES

    3. @CShield so are you able to take care of your self or are you such a weak person you need others to pay for you?

    1. Don’t you think this is EXTREME?
      According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 MILLION abortions. This corresponds to approximately 125,000 abortions PER DAY.

      Here is some perspective on 40-50M:
      — Population of California: 39 Million
      — Population of Texas: 28 Million
      — Population of Florida: 21 Million
      — Population of New York: 19 Million

      How is this ALWAYS acceptable?
      1. Body autonomy
      2. Reproductive health
      3. Support women; it’s not your choice
      4. Population control
      5. You don’t care after they’re born
      6. All of the above

      How is this NEVER acceptable?
      1. Body responsibility
      2. Death is the exact opposite of health
      3. Support people to make better choices
      4. The family unit
      5. Grow strong, self-sufficient and prosper
      6. All of the above

      40-50M abortions EVERY SINGLE YEAR. More than the populations of some COUNTRIES. I can’t even wrap my brain around such a nefarious number.

      Human history has shown, again and again, that “the ends justify the means” is the siren song for our most heinous, despicable acts.

    2. Also, FYI… Who is Margaret Sanger?

      From her Wikipedia Page —
      Margaret Sanger (September 14, 1879 – September 6, 1966)
      …opened the first birth control clinic in the United States, and established organizations that evolved into the Planned Parenthood Federation of America.

      Section: Views | Eugenics
      After World War I, Sanger increasingly appealed to the societal need to limit births by those least able to afford children. The affluent and educated already limited their child-bearing, while the poor and uneducated lacked access to contraception and information about birth birth control.[109] Here she found an area of overlap with eugenicists.

      In “The Morality of Birth Control”, a 1921 speech, she divided society into three groups: the “educated and informed” class that regulated the size of their families, the “intelligent and responsible” who desired to control their families in spite of lacking the means or the knowledge, and the “irresponsible and reckless people” whose religious scruples “prevent their exercising control over their numbers”. Sanger concludes, “There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped.”[116]

    3. @may wilson There are industries that thrive on the problems of the people. Insurance. Medicine. RELIGION. They would cease to exist, were it not for our suffering.

  3. It all comes down to money, using religion as a prop in order to save money and in the process women getting the short end of the stick. Birth control (pills) are not only for birth control, there are medical reasons for the use of birth control.

    1. Don’t get me wrong here, I am all for birth control as opposed to elective abortion, but forcing employers to pay for it against their religious conviction is not proper. Put the shoe on the other foot and you may see what I mean. Would you be OK with being forced to pay your employers tithes to the church. I thought not.

    2. @Maria *”It all comes down to money,and in the process women getting the short end of the stick”*
      Is that really what this is about Maria?
      Women will now have to pay for contraceptives the same as men have had to all along?
      Is that what this is really about?
      Or, doesn’t it make more sense, this about the Supreme Court holding that religious entities shouldn’t have to endure legislation that goes against the heart of what they believe.
      It’s a win win.
      You can still have your contraceptives and they get to have freedom of religion again.

  4. Your religious beliefs shouldn’t have reign over mine. Religious freedom doesn’t mean that you can force your beliefs on me by threatening my livelihood.

    1. @Moira McCleary These liberal progressive whack jobs don’t believe in the death penalty for serial killers but are OK with killing the unborn.

    2. How about staying out of other peoples wallets? I believe people have the right to what they earn and shouldn’t have that exploited for other peoples benefits. Also go buy your own contraception

    3. So the. Why don’t you just choose a different health insurance carriers.. one that offers birth control in their plan

  5. America, where “My religious beliefs get to control ‘your’ healthcare.” This country has rarely been further away from a faith in humanity, let alone a faith in God.

    1. @Genghis Smith *”and you’re out of date with our laws”*
      So let me get this straight.
      If you find an intruder in your home, armed with a firearm, you ARE allowed to use your knife in a gun fight?
      Make sure the initial interaction and resulting maiming or death occurs in n amount of time no reasonable person could have said you had time to call the police. You’ll find yourself on the wrong end of the law.

    2. nunya bidness Wrong, any householder confronting an armed intruder is allowed to use appropriate force in return….what is it about that you don’t understand?
      But you see, I can’t remember the last time I heard of an intruder with a gun, we simply don’t have your insane gun culture here….hence the fraction of your murder rate!

    3. @England Calling *”America, where “My religious beliefs get to control ‘your’ healthcare.” “*
      You almost got it right.
      It’s: America, where “your” healthcare doesn’t get to control my religious beliefs.
      Correction free of charge.

    4. @Laura Zaboraski *” It’s telling a woman what she can and cannot do concerning her own body.”*
      I talked to my wife about it and we agree…
      It is, in no uncertain terms, NOT telling a woman what she can do with her body.
      You’re free to walk into any pharmacy and get your birth control……on your own dime.
      They did not outlaw birth control.
      Now who is the moron?

  6. Isn’t it peculiar that these old men put restrictions on contraception, but not on Viagra?🙂

    1. Companies are not required to cover Viagra as others have pointed out. Your comment just highlights lack of education. Thanks.

    2. @Aussie Titan ya most of these guys hate women alot of men do need it i hate people sometimes

    1. Jessica H newsflash in about an hour any women in this country can get BC the only thing this ruling does is make you pay for it yourself

    2. @Rainbow PrismThe ruling does not prohibit womens’ access to birth control. It just makes it unfree.

    1. Well, Obama did make fun of him at the correspondent’s dinner…burning our country to the ground seems reasonable.

  7. This isnt about morals and values, this is about money and control. Men want to impose restrictions on women’s reproductive choices. WOMEN DO NOT NEED RESTRICTIONS THEY NEED CHOICES. LET WOMEN DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT IS MORAL TO THEM AND CONTINUE TO PAY FOR THEIR CARE. FAIR AND EQUAL TREATMENT FROM MEN IS SO HARD TO OBTAIN IN THE LAND OF THE FREE.

    1. Not so! Don’t get me wrong here, I am all for birth control as opposed to elective abortion, but forcing employers to pay for it against their religious conviction is not proper. Put the shoe on the other foot and you may see what I mean. Would you be OK with being forced to pay your employers tithes to the church. I thought not.

  8. This ruling is stupid. Why does America get to force Christian beliefs on everyone else? The employer doesn’t need contraceptive, the person asking for it does, and what that person should or shouldn’t do is not the employer’s business.

    1. @incipidsigninsetup , Oh, I know. Pete Williams specifically mentions business denying specific parts of coverage for religious reasons*smh*

    2. G1Transformed Wow. And you people support undocumented people voting but I as an Australian can’t comment on US politics. GTFO. Because what happens in America tends to affect politics down here.

    3. G1Transformed Doesn’t matter whether we do or not we are free to comment on US politics given that your guys influences our politics.

    1. Almost every society in the world has fallen because of religion at one time or another. I honestly thought because of science we had progressed beyond that possibility. I guess not.

    2. Cyrene the Cat
      Exactly …..just look at Soddam and Gomorrah, for example.👍

    3. MSM PROTECTING YOU FROM REALITY ! Good fiction bro, but the wrong place for it….the grown ups are talking about real life.

  9. republicans just want to see more than half of the women in this country, barefoot & pregnant..

    They are at it again with the religious excuse, to oppress & limit females in the work force, it’s not like these women are receiving health insurance through the welfare state, they are literally paying for their own health insurance.

    1. Why is it so hard for women to buy contraception? Women spend thousands on eyelashes and nails a year but god forbid you pay for your own birth control

    2. Aussie Titan
      You see it’s not only about contraceptives, now employers can also waiver important medical exams women need on a yearly basis to stay healthy, like I said before, these women are literally paying for their healthcare insurance.. Now what’s next in store for women in the workplace? We get paid only 60 cents per dollar a man makes, with same experience & education, & if you are a woman of color you make less.

    3. @La Blue Girl *”now employers can also waiver important medical exams women need on a yearly basis to stay healthy,”*
      Not true.
      The ACA requires covered employers to offer “a grouphealth plan or group health insurance coverage” that pro-vides certain “minimum essential coverage.” 26 U. S. C. §5000A(f )(2); §§4980H(a), (c)(2). Employers who do notcomply face hefty penalties, including potential fines of $100 per day for each affected employee. §§4980D(a)–(b); see also Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc., 573 U. S. 682, 696–697 (2014). These cases concern regulations promul-gated under a provision of the ACA that requires covered employers to provide women with “preventive care and screenings” without “any cost sharing requirements.” 42 —————— 1See 42 U. S. C. §300gg–92; 29 U. S. C. §1191c; 26 U. S. C. §9833.
      3 Cite as: 591 U. S. ____ (2020) Opinion of the Court U. S. C. §300gg–13(a)(4).2 The statute does not define “preventive care and screen-ings,” nor does it include an exhaustive or illustrative list of such services. Thus, the statute itself does not explicitly require coverage for any specific form of “preventive care.”
      That’s where that myth is being promulgated. But if you read it you’ll see what you’ve been told is not true.
      https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19-431_5i36.pdf
      and..
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/04/12/dont-buy-into-the-gender-pay-gap-myth/

    4. La Blue Girl can you have a rational conversation, that’s why nobody listens to liberals.. because they waive their hands up in the air with alarmism.. it’s annoying

    5. Eddie Figueroa
      Yeah the numbers don’t lie, how about we take care of the children that already exist in this world, before we wrap our heads around an abortion crusade, do you know the number of babies that die of starvation every year around the world?
      Approximately 3.1 million die from undernutrition, illnesses..
      66 million primary school age children attend classes hungry across developing nations, this includes the great U.S.A. With 15 million children lack the basic necessities..

      How about the thousands of species that are going extinct, because we are stressing our natural resources to the limits.. without a clean environment we can’t exist, right?

  10. HOW SAD IS THIS, REAL SAD INDEED, RELIGION HAS TO FORCE THIS ON THE PEOPLE, RELGION IS ABOUT GOD NOT GOING TO COURTS TO CONTROL THE PEOPLE SHAME ON THEM

    1. This isn’t forcing anything on anyone. It’s not forcing Christians to fund sexual lifestyle choices.

    2. Mary Jean Jones, so it’s communistic of you not to not pay for my rubbers? What a strange time we live in.

    3. @bryanatwku – When the government is controlling your life or how you live, it’s communist.

    4. Mary Jean Jones, I don’t think you understand the ruling. The court ruled for less government power, not more.

    1. @CShield That’s a bit of a non sequitur as we know the vast majority of contraception isnt going to be used for the conditions you listed. I also don’t think religion is being used for hate in this case (another non sequitur), though I think this was a terrible decision. Exceptions like President Obama compromised on for religious organizations (religiously based school or hospitals for example) made sense, but extending that to anyone who doesn’t want birth control covered for their employees, you just know that is going to be horribly abused by those with no convictions except that the hate universal healthcare in general.

      Every other Western liberal democracy has had universal healthcare as a fundamental human right since the 1960s, and we havent fallen into despotic socialism. I can’t believe y’all are still waiting for something that has been a cornerstone of healthier happier societies for the rest of us for close to 60 years already. What we wish for ourselves we should work for for all.

    2. @Imani Gordon This ruling makes it so they don’t have to offer it at all, free or otherwise.

  11. I am a christian, but I do not believe in imposing my beliefs on anyone. ENOUGH with forcing regulations on individual rights. There is a separation between church and state.

    1. Umm, Warren?
      You sure you understand the ruling? it overturned forcing regulations on individual rights to freedom of religion. That’s what separation of church and state means.
      It didn’t ban birth control.

    2. Yeah nobody is making you give up birth control, you still have a right to birth control and abortions. If a health insurance agency wants to put birth control on their plan, they still can..

  12. Violates a company’s religious beliefs? This just sounds SO wrong. How does an entity feel at all?

    1. You know a company is run by people.. people who are entitled to their beliefs and should run their company’s the way they see fit

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