Trymaine Lee and Caroline Randall Williams join Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss their reactions to the debate over Confederate monuments featured in Trymaine Lee’s documentary "Stone Ghosts in the South: America's Legacy of Heritage and Hate" and how America continues to reckon with its history of slavery and racism. Aired on 7/10/2020.
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‘Stone Ghosts In The South: America's Legacy Of Heritage And Hate’ | The Last Word | MSNBC
I love Lawrence so fearless prepare to confront issues head on, keep up the good work
# of t’rump tweets defending confederate statues = 42
# of t’rump tweets telling Putin to stop killing our troops = 0
“Slavery is founded in the selfishness of man’s nature — opposition to it is in his love of justice.
—Abraham Lincoln, October 16, 1854 Speech in Peoria
“I am naturally anti-slavery. If slavery is not wrong, then nothing is wrong.”
–Abraham Lincoln, April 4, 1864
“This is a world of compensations; and he who would be no slave, must consent to have no slave. Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it.”
–Abraham Lincoln, April 6, 1859
@Ro G
Thanks.👍 Same to you and yours.
If I ever hear the war of northern aggression again…it’s literally America’s fault that they had to break away and shoot at American soldiers, it was all Lincoln’s fault. And now we have the context why Trump is considered a better Republican President than Lincoln in a poll.
thank you
Thanks. Wonderful to know these Abraham Lincoln quotes.
@Rune – Thorne in what poll, pray tell?
*“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” – Martin Luther King JR., ‘Letter from a Birmingham Jail’ (1963)*
The only real answer to poverty, police brutality, health disparities and anti-African American racism, is complete reparations for #ADOS, American Descendants of Slavery. Reparations is a debt owed to the descendants of slavery in America for the 400 years of oppression. Reparations will include but not limited to, $14 to $18 trillion dollars in cash payments. A 400 year Marshall plan with complete government/federal protections and more.
Join the ADOS movement.
Go to ados101.com for more information.
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I had a sign made with that quote and put it in my yard (at the time I did not know whose quote it was). It was placed at the corner of a 4 way stop and framed by lush foliage. I placed it there as I felt so helpless and disgusted at the child separation and kids in cages. I felt the words were powerful statement of truth and not designated toward any particular issue. Somebody knocked it down after about 3 weeks and put the Epoch Times under the wiper of my car — after carefully cutting their name and address off and noting “ This is NOT Fake news!!!” I thought it was a joke from friends— nope. I Put it out again recently for the same reason, feeling helpless and hopeless regarding the the presidency and the BLM protests. Knocked down several times, tossed in bushes and eventually they just took it. Racism is alive and well in my little neighborhood. Think I might get 10 more made for my neighbor’s yards as they had appreciated it but me thinks they be bit to fearful to put out. The show last night was EXCELLENT and helpful for me to have a bit more insight into the depth of this situation. I suspect, even if a more unified America
Oops, ….. and generous of spirit emerges after the election, there will still be a 25 percent fallout that must be addressed and pray we all handle it well. I don’t have the answer but keep looking.
Confederate symbols are an affront to every patriotic American. They are symbols of treason , racism and hate.They need to be destroyed or retired to museums. And it needs to done now.Otherwise it will have to be tackled again in a few decades. Racists will keep on coming up with excuses every time to delay the eventuality, and these will keep poisoning the minds of populace, especially children, with racism and hatred.Besides these monuments were made from stolen slave labor,and stolen Black Labor during Jim Crow, all to keep them enslaved and demeaned.In fact,Civil War was fought by Confederates by arms and ammunition made possible by stolen labor.
The Lost Cause is all about rebranding traitors and racists as having fought bravely for ideals like “heritage,” “freedom” and “nobility.Textbooks need to be purged of this toxic myth ,and real history of slavery taught.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOPGpE-sXh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbEjmEyHf8U
About the statues…they have plaques…proclaiming who they are…why not a plaque…along with it…proclaiming their atrocities…??? Leave the statues…let all see the faces of…criminals of humanity…of traitors to the Union…segregationist…But…let it be known …what they did !!! People…tend to forget…when there are no reminders around !!!
If I ever hear the war of northern aggression again…it’s literally America’s fault that they had to break away and shoot at American soldiers, it was all Lincoln’s fault. And now we have the context why Trump is considered a better Republican President than Lincoln in a poll.
@Rune – Thorne More Lost Cause trolling there, little bot?
@MrArchangel73521 and still others, glorify them
no, best to have them removed from public sight
besides why should someone whos ancestors bore the yoke, have to be reminded on a daily basis?
I honestly wanted to spit in the eye of that guy! “Mr. Cotton, like you pick,” he sneered, speaking to a black man. My entire body turned to ice when I saw that.
I can’t imagine exactly what that’s like for black and brown people, and it reminds me of something that Amber Ruffin said about being harassed by the cops and having them point their guns at her, and how there’s an unspoken but nationwide expectation that when this kind of crap happens to you, you’ve gotta just “take it in stride.”
I’m just amazed that he didn’t react to that terrible, vile, pro-slavery comment by at least ending the interview before it could even start. And I really hope that going through with it was a choice about the documentary value of getting an interview with Mr. Cotton in particular, or something like that. I really hope it wasn’t that he felt that he had to just “take it in stride.” I really hope he didn’t feel that at all.
THIS KIND OF CRAP HAS TO STOP!! IT MUST COME TO AN END!!! NOW!!!!!
May God bless and protect the Black Lives Matter movement✊
Caroline you are beautiful smart and strong. You are every black man dream wife 😏
Awww, that’s so sweet. Your a gentleman.☺
@Nicole Brown thank you
Did you hear the story about how Germany had to take down all the Nazi statues they put up in the 70s and 80s? Oh wait, never mind. Germany never put up any Nazi statues after their defeat.
too right – Germany ensured all references to glorifying Nazism and Facism was removed from public view. Instead they built museums to show the atrocities in the hope history would never repeat these heinous crimes against humanity.
No memorials for traitors. Tear all the confederate monuments down.
Ending the Great Lie that the South didn’t really lose because blacks are still not equal and that “The South Will Rise Again” will allow white Southerners to actually grieve their loss rather than pretend otherwise. Their new enemy? Republicans who played them for their votes.
Nat Turner’s Revolt ADOS Nice try, comrade, to stir up the issues that will distract us leading up to the election. How’s Moscow doing?
The confederates were democrats. Only democrats owned slaves.
@TONY
And the funny thing is that you think that is somehow relevant
@TONY learn your history tony
those were southern democrats, not to be confused with the dems of today
though you do try
Exactly what “heritage” does the Confederate Flag represent?
What good things are represented by it? Longing for the good old days when whites had black slaves?
@Earl of Mar okay dude, when and where?
@dan mac North Africa, Middle-East Countries from 130 B.C. to 1700’s. Slavery started in Africa. The Vikings started invading Scotland and Ireland and shipping them down the Volga River to the Middle East. Then we see Black Muslim Slave ships delivering slaves even down to So. America. The Black Muslim Slave Ships used to board British Man-O-Wars and enslave their crews.
@Earl of Mar
dont let the term “white” fool ya
those of middle eastern descent, and the vikings are both of the Caucasian race
you stated blacks had white slaves
so…care to try again?
PS impress their crews, not “enslave them
you really have no bloody idea of just what slavery is, do you?
did the impressed crews have to work their entire lives in slavery?, or was it just a voyage or two, until replacement crew was located?
that is NOT slavery, dude
@dan mac Your calling Middle-Eastern white? I don’t think so. I think you need to read up on slavery. Slavery started in Africa and it’s still going on along with mass genocide. No, the Black MuslimSlave Ships took the British Crews. They also took the American Crews. You really need to realize just who did the oppressing for over a thousand years. It wasn’t the whites. It was the Afrikan’s.
@Earl of Mar they are of the Caucasian race, you can think whatever you bloody well please, but you would be wrong
i suggest you try educating yourself
so try again dude this time blacks holding whites as slaves not impressing brits or yanks to crew the ships, but actual slaves
not blacks holding blacks
give us the examples
PS East indians are also of the Caucasian race, i suggest you actually look this up before you look the bigger fool
I have never seen the Germans but a statue of Hitler, in front of the concentration camp!
Well its a great statue (target) when you pas by for spitting, and nobody minds. Even the pigeons know what to do on it (no cleaning required its self maintained)
Nobody who visits that site will come away with the impression that its purpose is to glorify Hitler.
Here’s an idea for a monument? A Cairn. Place one stone, for each of the dead of Covid in America. Cheap, easy and simple. But, someone will have to place 1000 stones for the last 24 hour period so you may need machinery?
Somehow I think, that the “masters” were helpless without their slaves. This way they were slaves of their ‘own’ slaves.
Confederate statues are the legacy of THEIR lack of humanity… not ours!
Don’t forget it was America who gave hundreds of Nazi scientist a chance at a new live after the war working at NASA That is how you made it to the moon with the help of ex Nazi criminals . So there is a dark side to the moon so to speak
That’s true.
there no such thing as a good nice slave owner
I love the both of them. I love Lawrence too.💙
*At the hight of slavery in the U.S., slaves were worth more than all the banks in America combined!* – If someone wants to tell you the American Civil War was not about slavery, just tell them to *look up the numbers…* The South didn’t fight for “independence”, they fought so that black people would not gain their freedom!
Worrying about statues seems somewhat a distraction from the serious problems with ongoing discrimination.
As a White fellow from Oregon originalIy, I would just like to say that I agree with the Black comentators.