Sen. Ed Markey’s defeat of Rep. Joe Kennedy III ends the Kennedy family’s perfect record of Massachusetts Democratic primary victories. Steve Kornacki explains how the activation of two different Democratic coalitions helped Sen. Markey keep his seat. Aired on 09/01/2020.
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Steve Kornacki On How Ed Markey Protected Seat From Rep. Joe Kennedy III | The Last Word | MSNBC
So glad that Ed won. This is a BIG win for progressives
@Rickard Kaufman Socialist Democrat means a Socialist that believes and a Democratic Government. It does not mean you are a Democrat.
There fixed that for you!!!
@Raging Monk But the connotative term for a democratic socialist is a social democrat like the SPD in Europe.
@Rickard Kaufman We aren’t in Europe.
@Raging Monk I don’t live in America and Europe has better living standards and institutions than in America.
@Rickard Kaufman ” I don’t live in America ”
Then stay out of our politics. Take Russia with ya on the way out the door.
Green new deal, Medicare for all and an endorsement from AOC… wins! A check against Pelosi and the establishment Dems.
@rana pipien Зачем мутить воду, если Вы якобы заинтересованы в создании Наших выборов в этом году? Отвлечение работает только на слабоумных, ТРОЛЛ.
@Raging Monk “Medicare” works in countries that are as developed as the US like the NHS in the UK.
Medicare For All works in countries as capitalist as America.
@Rickard Kaufman I lived in Europe for about 4 1/2 years and will not argue with you. Because you are wrong.
@Raging Monk How am I wrong?
@rana pipien “‘progressives’ aren’t winning anywhere near the levels they need” Are you kidding? Progressives are notching MAJOR wins all across the country. Just because we haven’t swept 200 representatives into office doesn’t mean we aren’t the future of the party. Please keep underestimating us while we keep defeating your precious corporate establishment tools.
“we can win elections and govern from the center” That’s an EXTREMELY harmful and self-destructive attitude. When Democrats embraced the populist left, they DOMINATED government. Since they embraced neoliberalism and corporatism, they have failed in deeply embarrassing ways. You haven’t learned your lessons from 2016.
“ACA is but one example of what we did.” Oh yeah. Great example. That’s a right-wing proposal that Obama adopted. At its peak, it had like 50% support nationally, it was immediately dismantled as soon as Republicans got their hands on power, and it didn’t stop the need for health care reform. The ACA was an ENORMOUS failure.
“The main reason Sanders lost is because his supporters were by and large as toxic as MAGA.” Nope, you Bernie-haters were simply not able to counter Bernie’s supporters’ arguments on politics and policy, so you just lazily compare them to Trump. The fact is, you guys act WAY MORE LIKE TRUMP than the left does.
Joe shouldn’t have even been running in this election if he wanted to be a senator he should have moved a little north and ran against Susan Collins
Lol no one in Maine would vote for an outstater
All the Kennedy’s are from Massachusetts. He’s the first Kennedy to lose an a election there.
There’s no way he could carpetbag in Maine
@Ash Roskell JFK lost? He just said no Kennedy ever lost in MA.
@Ash Roskell No JFK did not!
Never liked the idea of a dynasty anyway. Change is sometimes necessary.
@Michael Warren Trump made a ‘joke’ recently about wanting to ‘serve’ another 12 years as POTUS. Also, Don Jr has a following on the right to run in 2024. Couple that with Ivanka, Jared and the rest of the mob family all cheerleading for Orange Daddy and I see a dynasty in the making (unless we put a stop to it).
@Nicholas A. exactly. No Clintons, Bush’s, Kennedy’s or Trump’s I say. It doesn’t matter if they are Dems or GOP.
@D True. even though there is nothing in the constitution about party’s. And I doubt anyone in the Roosevelt family tree want to run in this era either.
Right now, RADICAL CHANGE is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for the survival of the planet and the human race.
@Michael Warren That’s not the definition of dynasty. One person doesn’t make a dynasty. Despite Markey’s long time in Congress, he hasn’t become a corporate shill.
Joe Kennedy III doesn’t even have a reason why he decided to run against Ed Markey.
Because Markey needs to go. He voted for the Iraq war, the crime bill, and to repeal Glass Siegel. The idea that he is some insurgent progressive is laughable.
Jack R it doesn’t look like you will get your wish
The time of shivering Pelosi is done. She can move to the retirement home and let AOC take over the party.
@Steve Jacobs And copy off from Markey’s platform and say I’m a young version of Markey and I’m RFK’s grandson.
Exactly what killed Ted Kennedy’s 1980 campaign. Well, that and Chappaquiddick.
Ed Markey is for the people and Kennedy is for corporations. We the people won tonight. Congrats Mr. Markey.
Markey is a decent man. I am glad that he won.
@ruth depew “Everything” might not necessarily be ‘corporate’ but a candidate who supports them is.
Simply as that.
A WIN FOR THE EARTH THE YOUTH AND WORING CLASS.. !❤️🤷🏾♀️#ThePeoples Convention
Pelosi Candidate Joe Kennedy stood FOR NOTHING but Big Money …Ed wrote THE GREEN NEW DEAL .. NO BRAINER …Should’nt have stole the election from Bernie ..BENIE WOULD HAVE WON IN A LAND SLIDE AGAINST Trump … Now we got to push Big Money Biden with up the hill … And then he will screw us .. . Sad Bad . .
cream with Hillaryget
#ThePeoples Convention #BLM
@ruth depew “Everything you don’t like is not necessarily corporate and that includes your annoying neighbor’s ill behaved children.”
Do you even have a clue what you’re talking about. The word “corporate” is not being used indiscriminately. lol RICHARD NEAL IS THE NUMBER ONE RECIPIENT OF CORPORATE PAC MONEY. Not just number ome among Democrats. NUMBER ONE AMONG ALL CONGRESSPEOPLE! How can you seriously argue that Richard Neal isn’t a corporate-aligned politician?
“Try expressing your opinions without using the word corporate.”
Try expressing your opinion without policing language. If Neal isn’t a corporate tool, say that. Make that argument. Defend it. Back it up with facts and logic. If you can’t, you’re the one who is not expressing an opinion, you’re the one who is honking a goose.
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Markey won, yay!
Just showing up and saying “I’m a Kennedy” isn’t enough anymore…
The Kennedy Dynasty is finally over.
Or it’s about a corrupt Corp vs progressive
The Progressives are coming.
You act surprised a man who has supported the common person and climate control and universal health care would win over a big money all for US rich man. People want real change not kings
Exactly. Hopefully this is the nail in the coffin of dynastic politics.
Progressives are coming for establishment Democrats who value corporate donations over the people they are supposed to represent.
@bLoWc16 No, we’re talking about progressives. How can it be “far left” if our policies are supported by majorities of Americans?
@rana pipien Markey is not an “outsider” but he’s definitely proven that he’s wiling to challenge the establishment to fight for a progressive agenda. Which other “insider” Democrats can you say that about? Almost none.
They’re not. Markey is an old-school incumbent. Progressive challengers like Alex Morse lost.
@rana pipien so what?
bLoWc16 I don’t know idiots like you don’t seem to understand the way the country actually works
I’m really happy for him! He stands for the people and Pelosi should be ashamed
Neoliberal shame? What’s that?
@Amani Rinas Because she’s a horrible person that represents her corporate donors.
@Amani Rinas She wouldn’t even let AOC talk for more that 60 seconds at the DNC a couple weeks ago.
@Amani Rinas For trying to unseat Markey who is a decent guy.
@Amani Rinas she’s utterly incompetent for a start and just as curropt as any other republican, not to mention when see her on TV she sounds like someone who escaped from a dementia ward
Biden and Harris take notes.
@John Perry
Against trump? Maybe.
Lol, they won’t. Centrists claim to be logical but the reality they are the most horrible ideologues. Serving the donor class is all they know. Serving people is not in their thought process. It’s hard to believe that people think like them with all the failure their policies have created. They don’t learn, which is why we either have to take power or force some to convert. Markey embraced a lot of centrist’s right wing policies before but is seeing it’s no longer sustainable. We have to make sure he stays the course.
I’m worried they represent and do the same as Clinton in 2016, the difference is Trump having and abusing the powers of the office.
@BeachMonstr FWIW, Kamala’s AG record was mixed, but her senate record has been good. She co-sponsored Bernie’s M4A and she wants a fracking ban.
@Joe Yeah, I guess that’s something, but also I think you are overestimating the thought process of the average voter.
It’s a sign of change, the new generation is here to take over.
Total idiocy. Markey has been in Congress for forty years.
Thank God
I guess the torch is being wrested from the old order as it kicks and screams. I like Markey’s slogan about the age of ideas as opposed to the age of a candidate. Bernie could make the same claim.
@rana pipien And yet Markey is the one who represents the voice of young people while Kennedy represents the old guard establishment. Go figure.
The irony of a septuagenerian leading a youth-powered progressive movement and a young Kennedy losing to him. 2020.
To me that just says that elections are about policy. everything else is secondary
If you watch or listen to Sanders’ statements in Congress tearing the gop a new one…..you would not be surprised at having a progressive in their 70s. 😉
Pelosi Candidate Joe Kennedy stood FOR NOTHING but Big Money …Ed wrote The Green New Deal … NO BRAINER …Should’nt have stole the election from Bernie ..BENIE WOULD HAVE WON IN A LAND SLIDE AGAINST Trump … Now we got to push Big Money Biden with up the hill .. Sad Bad .
Imagine going people coming out and voting , not for the young handsome candidate, but the old one. Progressives for the win.
Thankfully the people of Massachusetts considered policy before age or identity when they voted
@Hans Blix how is kennedy handsome.. he looks handsome in a way someone like voldemort was handsome when young.
Abhishek Sengupta Tom Riddle in Chamber of Secrets was 1000x better looking than Joe Kennedy
@MattInTaiwan lol I actually forgot what the actor looked like but I believe you. Joe kennedy looks like a vengeful ghost in a horror movie coming to stab me..
@Abhishek Sengupta I would say more “cute” than “handsome” 😉
AOC endorsed him.
About time. Kennedy lost to an effective, progressive candidate. He would have been smart not to challenge Markey.
Markey wasn’t ever really that progressive. He voted for the crime bill and the Iraq war. He’s got a pretty hawkish record and he’s not all that progressive economically either. The one thing he had going for him with progressives was that he had a long record of environmentalism. And he hitched his wagon to AOC’s green new deal early on. Markey sponsored one progressive bill and ran a phenomenal campaign. That was enough to convince progressives that he was on their side, even when his record showed a long history of just being a boilerplate Democrat.
@Elijah Culper Markey has proven himself to be an important ally to the left at a time when the left has few allies within the Democratic establishment. Markey stuck his neck out to support Medicare For All and a Green New Deal and other strong progressive reforms–that’s why he was challenged from the right.
Historically, Markey has been more or less a conventional liberal Democrat who has a good environmental record but has taken some bad positions on other issues. He’s not perfect, but that just proves that leftists are purists. Markey has made significant efforts to fight for progressive priorities and not only should that be rewarded, but he was challenged from the right as a result which makes it all the more important to defend him.
Kennedy is a big oil investor and a tool of the corporate establishment who pretended to be progressive in order to win a MA Democratic primary. Everyone saw through that. Well, if Markey is pretending, he’s got everyone fooled, including the establishment who have gone out their way to try to destroy him.
So yes, Markey has convinced us that he’s on our side, not just because he sponsored one bill, but because he has proven to be a true fighter on multiple issues that are important to the left while Kennedy is obviously an entitled corporate empty suit. As it turns out, the left’s standards are NOT unreasonably high, and they ARE willing to compromise to support more conventional politicians if they prove their willingness to fight for a progressive agenda.
Ed Markey ended the Kennedy dynasty.
And hopefully ended dynastic politics altogether.
The days of being a politician who stands for nothing are over.
@Jack R Markey is proof that we can pressure milquetoast Dems to move left if they wanna keep their seats. Recall how he sponsored the Green New Deal.
Pelosi Candidate Joe Kennedy stood FOR NOTHING but Big Money …Ed wrote The Green New Deal … NO BRAINER …Should’nt have stole the election from Bernie ..BENIE WOULD HAVE WON IN A LAND SLIDE AGAINST Trump … Now we got to push Big Money Biden with up the hill .. Sad Bad .
@Robert Nicholls Precisely.
For now.
Unfortunately