Glenn Kirschner and Benjamin Wittes join MTP Daily to discuss Roger Stone’s conviction on seven accounts tied to the Russia investigation and whether or not Rudy Giuliani violated lobbying laws. Aired on 11/15/19.
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Roger Stone Found Guilty On All Counts | MTP Daily | MSNBC
Lock him up!
Shut you up!
The Nixon tattoo on Stone’s back let out a gasp and fainted when the verdict was read.😂
AND then…ran for the helicopter…
😂😂😂
LOL
Manafort, Cohen, Papadopoulos, Gates, Flynn, and now Stone. They all played the stupid game of “Who Wants To Go To Prison For Donald Trump” and they all won stupid prizes.😄
We can only wait and see who the next game contestant will be. Will it be Rudy, Barr, Pompeo, Sondland, or Mulvaney? Hmmmm😞
sondland bought his jail ticket for 1 million, let’s give him his reward!
@david j short list: don jr, Rudy guilani, lev, Igor, ivanka, Jared and when trump loses he gets life under the Rico act
Nader. Trumps old election pal. Previously arrested for child pornography possesion and jailed. Then arrested this year again for the same thing.
It seems crazy doesnt it. Many of these people like stone and rudy could spend the rest of their lives in jail
@nosuchthing8 Which would be utterly heartbreaking – NOT!
Giuliani and Mulvaney are next. They need to sing like canaries.
@mike jubb Sondland has no choice but to cry wolf on his third try to his Jeff sessions impersonation “aye doonn’t reecccaaalll” excuse. Billionaire azzHoles w
on’t play well with other poorer inmates in for the same crimes.
@ManOwords SDNY would need to prosecute jr first the he can give corroborating evidence against chump
@Linda Bergman Well child Trump should have been impeached over a year ago over his fraudulent charity. You throw used tampon away not smoke them love .
Sing like a canary in a troll mine❗
@Ted cox
“He did very little GOOD legal work for me, and he has halitosis and spits all over me when he rants”.
This wouldn’t have been possible without Robert Mueller’s report. Thank you, Mr. Mueller 👏
@Verruca he should’ve been facing them before he was elected. SIX times a bankrupt? Defrauding people SIX TIMES? Insanely slack laws that allow such a venal loser to go back 5 times more.
The effects of Mueller’s report are far from concluded, even with Stone’s conviction.
@Verruca i certainly hope they look at this policy again when this is over, and barr is gone, and decide to chuck it…
Trump 2020
Stone is going rat you out now orange one.
Tick tock.
Orphan Annie That’s not true.
Yes, it’s TRUE, streetwalker trump hump.
It’s funny part is it’s not just Trump crying go ahead go ahead my friend but this guy on trial because he will tell bowling everybody he will shoot his mouth off about everything everybody that’s going to be fun to hear and watch I said his I didn’t say I was going to be great he’s going to shoot his mouth off about everybody everything that happened in this country she’s going to bring it all in the open that’s going to be fun I can’t wait….
Stone will be pardoned because he has fiends in high places( no that was not a typo).
The Mueller investigation is NOT closed.
Flynn is next.
There are still several sealed indictments ready to be used when fRump is kicked out. He’s gonna die in prison.
An investigation can be opened up at anytime. Trump thinks he has gotten away with conspiracy but Justice never forgets. No matter how slows the wheels turn. I think that Mark Twain said something to the effect. If a person tells a lie, it’s easier to tell the truth than remembering the last lie that you have told.
I’ll drink to that.
Ah, yes. But he needs to be out next year.
Rudy won’t do any time for you either orange one.
Power corrupts I’m waiting to find out Rudi is a rat because he prosecuted mobs in his past! Rudi undercover I keep hoping!
I have been trying to find the clips of those Republicans in crowds that are still chanting, “Lock her up”. Where are they and what are they chanting now? How about this one for size….”Lock them up”!!!!
Lock them up one size fit all. That’s why you need to be careful what you wish for…
Lol. Wonderful post on fb. Pic of Hillary sipping coffee and looking sideways at a pic of Roger Stone holding a placard “Lock her up”. And the comment “So how’s that going Roger?”
@Jan Hall I didn’t post it. I’m not on Facebook. Send me the link please?
Well, it’s fairly reasonable to assume Ivanka Trump will face criminal charges at some point given tthe sentences already laid out and her exposure to high decision making…
Don’t worry it’s coming
Only the PEOPLE of this country should be allowed to pardon anyone who has already been convicted of a crime by a judge and jury. The executive branch has far too much power in my opinion and many people get pardoned who should not. In certain cases I think the voters should be allowed to decide. The president should be allowed only to present the case to US for a vote.
At the very least, the president should not be allowed to pardon people close to him or connected to him in crimes. The pardon power is pure insanity and makes it possible for the president’s associates to commit any crime they want without consequences.
Great idea.
Kate White voters are obviously to uneducated and uninformed to vote at all. Trump is president
@Wallace Wallaby In response to a line of questions from Sen. Pat Leahy, D-Vt., about obstruction of justice related to Donald Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey and his alleged threat to discharge Mueller, Barr said:
The point I was trying to make earlier is that, in the situation of the President, who has constitutional authority to supervise proceedings, if in fact a proceeding was not well founded, if it was a groundless proceeding, if it was based on false allegations, the President does not have to sit there, constitutionally, and allow it to run its course The President could terminate that proceeding… .https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/the-barr-memo-and-the-imperial-presidency/
This is the reason Barr came back; not because he likes Donald Trump, but because he likes “Imperial Presidencies”, as most Republicans claim to( unless they’re black of course), because they like to rally behind der Schtrong Leeter , Goose stepping in unison.
@Lincoln Paul
I got 3 million votes that says he’s not the *president.
Utterly absurd that the Main criminal in this gang has the power to Pardon the rest of the foot soldiers of this crime family ! Ridiculous !
@Jan Hall Look it’s a putin troll with a new empty bogus account. at first it may not seem like it but they are changing their tactics a little trying to sound reasonable all the while lying and trying to drive a wedge between the U.S. and its best ally and friend. Don;t let them fool you , start looking at their accounts. Its not normal in this day to have new empty you tube accounts, but they have to continually remake them because google is taking them down daily. If you dont believe me look at anyone you know , a friends or even your own and you will see their is always activity, a empty account is a red flag. They of course will deny it but don’t fall for it.
@Jeremiah Jeremecht Because Trump is sociopathic. They got caught so that would be their problem in a sociopaths mind set .
I bet when the Democrats regain power (regardless when that is) they will add conditions for pardons (like you can’t pardon people guilty of crimes you were involved with).
@Babba Ganoush We may not have a kingship but it has been written that Barr came back specifically for one reason , even though he likely hates Donald Trump. He came back to further his life’s work and political goal of attempting to elevate the position of president to a dictatorship. A president who can disregard the will of the people and the courts and Congress. This is the doctrine of the “unitary executive”.
We may not have a kingship but that does not preclude other equally horrendous types of people being in power. And the Republicans are the ones who really embrace a presidential theory of power called the” unitary executive”. This is a theory that purports to elevate the position and Power of the president right out of the co-equal branch structure that we all learned in school ( well most of us anyway) and set him up essentially as a dictator with far more power than constitutionally legitimate, if that’s what he wants to be and you have a Congress that goes along with it. Here is the quote regarding William Barr’s feeling about Presidential Power spoken about the time he corrupted the Mueller report :
[“In response to a line of questions from Sen. Pat Leahy, D-Vt., about obstruction of justice related to Donald Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey and his alleged threat to discharge Mueller, Barr said:
The point I was trying to make earlier is that, in the situation of the President, who has constitutional authority to supervise proceedings, if in fact a proceeding was not well founded, if it was a groundless proceeding, if it was based on false allegations, the President does not have to sit there, constitutionally, and allow it to run its course The President could terminate that proceeding… . “]
here’s a link to the entire article,
https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/the-barr-memo-and-the-imperial-presidency/
@Jan Hall
You might find this quote by William Barr around the time that he obstructed/ obfuscated the Mueller report highlighting his love of the imperial presidency:
[ “In response to a line of questions from Sen. Pat Leahy, D-Vt., about obstruction of justice related to Donald Trump’s firing of former FBI Director James Comey and his alleged threat to discharge Mueller, Barr said:
The point I was trying to make earlier is that, in the situation of the President, who has constitutional authority to supervise proceedings, if in fact a proceeding was not well founded, if it was a groundless proceeding, if it was based on false allegations, the President does not have to sit there, constitutionally, and allow it to run its course The President could terminate that proceeding… .” ]
Close your eyes lean back in your chair and Ponder the full implications of that kind of power vested in Donald J(uvenile)Trump. I got goosebumps and then I heard goose steps faintly in the distance, but they began to march closer.
https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/the-barr-memo-and-the-imperial-presidency/
” Do you hear laughter, Ramses?”
Turns out mullers investigation wasn’t a witch hunt after all
There’s more there yet. Mueller report may turn out to be the “go to” for more evidence on trials to come?
Yeah, the dirty cop barely knew where he was at – when testifying!!
It was but it’s the biggest witch hunt in history… because the White house is occupied by cultists and warlocks!
David of course
these two guests were impressive. more of them please.
MAGA = MORE ARE GETTING ARRESTED!
that was good….😁
@TreeHugnHipi I agree; I’ve been thinking of a real meaning for MAGA. More A********* Gathering Around was all I could come up with.
Trump 2020
@EyEzLaZy go back to being lazy…
Muller investigation should be reopened.
Yes, and expanded. That investigation was confined too narrowly to the Russian election interference.
Suppose Mueller had another shot now!
@JRG2733 Pretty sure Mueller has no interest in continuing the investigation. Hand it over to Dems to investigate and Reps will see how easy Mueller went on them.
@Wallace Wallaby Mueller is an interesting situation, apparently more of a good Republican soldier than was said. And yet the obstruction counts were very strong.
@JRG2733
I have no faith in Bob Mueller. I mean, I know, I understand he didn’t want his pets, his wife and children murdered and his career ruined forever but I think he could have said a little more than he chose to. I have not forgotten that Mueller was the one entrusted with smoke screening the Bush Administration’s failure regarding their culpability in the blunders that led to 9/11. Republicans were ordered to never say anything bad about fellow Republicans ever since Ronald Reagan threatened to cut their campaign funds off if they ever did.
@O.P. Yates Mueller is an enigma. A career bipartisan professional, and yet somehow he gave the President a break he would never have considered with anyone else. And then justified everything using DOJ’s internal policy. Yes, he detailed the 10 counts of obstruction, for possible later indictment. On balance I feel he failed his country and will be seen that way in history.
Seems the defense is counting on a presidential pardon. Who cares, just give us the full Mueller report.
Trump does a big mistake if he pardons all his criminal “friends.” He will not have any company behind bars
@Rick White bwaaahaaaa! 😂
Rodger Stone reminds me of that song Another One Bites the Dust
Roger Stone in prison = Another one bites the pillow
@Luke Chandra that is too cool
Guess Stone is happy now, he wanted attention. He got it.
Yes, and he will loads of attention in the prison shower.
Guilani isnt “Americas mayor”, he’s a straight up criminal. Mulvaney is in it up to his eyeballs, and he’s gonna sing like Pavoratti
Agreed. Mr. Mustache I mean Mr. Bolton might sing like a bird to get some revenge on Trump.
Another of Trump witch that bite the dust. Orange clown is going down next. Mulvaney might spill the beans 2.
Rudy Fruity might throw Trump under the school bus. Rudy doesn’t want 2 b roommates with mobsters that he put away in prison.
i so agree, mona! but please spell one of my favorite singer’s ever’s name correctly: it’s pavarotti, please. p.s. i’m guessing mulvaney’s gonna sing more like daffy duck, though.😉
Rudy Giuliani has “friends” in prison.
To Peggy Trawick
You are hilarious. Just a few words
to describe Giuliani’s future.
Rudy is next😂😂😂😂