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I saw a change in the UK almost immediately as Russia invaded. The range we were using (MOD) was taken for training from civilians (we lost access). I think this has been happening from very early, we are now seeing it all come together. Russia, I think the west knew, had to be fought against, and there was no shall we help Ukraine, it was what can we do. I’m glad the UK stepped up immediately, whist nowhere near the power of the US, it’s nice to know on the right side. It was all hands to the pump- that’s my best guess on what I saw.
Will it be enough? It has to be, as failure isn’t an option. We win with intelligence and skill, they will throw orcs at it (sad to describe it like this, but that’s what is happening).
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Uh, failure may not be an option but it sure is a possibility. Without US/UN/NATO boots on the ground in Ukraine all that can be done is providing material , training and Intel support. That’s all indirect aid. Failure is always possible, especially in an armed conflict.
UK reaction was legendary. There is in such crucial moments like this the real powers show itself.
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Yeah when this is all done I predict a bunch of Russian volunteers will restart the real-IRA and ETA etc
The escalation argument is nonsense. If the Russians get it in Ukraine then they deserve it. Give them everything: IFV, tanks, planes, and longer range missles.
@H B There’s a lot of malice in you. You want to prolong the war and prolong the suffering of other people. God punishes for this.
@Иван Мартыненко Remember who started this war against civilians and a peaceful country. Remember that that for each civilian who gets killed, and for each of your countrymen that returns in zinc coffins, maimed or traumatized.
Your assumed compassion is fake. Russia can end this war today and return home. Ukraine doesn’t have such an easy way out.
Don’t even mention god; Russia is a godless, evil empire.
I don’t understand it either (whilst pro-Russia). It’s on the doorstep and everyone is very bloodthirsty. We assume they’ll send everything as long as their dysfunctional MTV & Ludacris fan kids not in danger. Actually better to send all in one bang so it can be captured before Ukraine can properly trained on it.
Dragging it out maximizes total casualties especially of Ukraine. That is very unfortunate and kind of evil of west to profess support, but, such is life (?)
@хорошая жизнь Ukraine has hundreds of Russian tanks captured last year.
@H B I remember very well who started this war. It was started by Ukrainian radical nationalists supported by the CIA and MI6. I see people burned alive in Odessa, I see the alley of angels of murdered children in Donetsk. No wonder you don’t mention God. God is not on the side of the current Ukrainian regime!
The 20,000 being trained in the U.K. are infantry. The Tank crews and those being trained to fly NATO aircraft are additional to this.
@Motherslapper I am trained on Leopard 2, and you do not need to worry. It Will probably take around two months to get a experianced tank crew adjusted to any western tank. It is not rocket sience.
@JonBer Leopard IIs sure. They are good oldschool tanks. I’m thinking more of challengers and Abrahms which UK and America can offer. And Europe seems pretty reluctant to part with their leopards.
@Motherslapper There is not much extra to operating Challanger and Abrams tanks, than a Leopard II. Abrams and Leos originate from the same tank prototype design, between Germany and US.
It seems like you want a problem to exist, that does not exist.
@Alex Perez you also have to train maintenance crews in addition to the tank crews. That take a lot of extra time.
@Hunter&Gatherer
I have a feeling some of that training has already been going on secretly.
Russia likely to start an offensive by mid Febuary as it will be at least mid March before the first new MBT’s and IFV’s enter into the fight.
They already started the offensive. I hope UA can hold on before the new weapons are coming.
Ukraine need long range missiles to hold on .
8.02.2023.
In a day , the Russian army destroyed:
Over 235 Ukrainian servicemen;
1 tank;
7 armored combat vehicles;
9 vehicles;
Howitzer “Msta-B”;
The APU mortar crew was destroyed.
6 warehouses of artillery ammunition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and fuel were destroyed.
During the day, 74 artillery units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated in firing positions, manpower and military equipment in 123 districts.
During the day, 11 HEADERS multiple rocket launchers were shot down, and 10 unmanned aerial vehicles were destroyed.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 382 aircraft, 206 helicopters, 3046 unmanned aerial vehicles, 403 anti-aircraft missile systems, 7789 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1011 multiple rocket launchers, 4022 field artillery guns and a mortar, as well as 8291 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.
Gee, this is exactly the same post that “Joshua Paul” made. Do you guys sit next to each other in the Russian Computer Warfare Institute? Or are you the same guy using the “Joshua Paul” account?
Democracy at his best ! This is proof that Kremlin trolls can say whatever they want. That is proof people have freedom of expression in USSR.
It is absolutely crazy how much meat and metal has been sent into the grinder with so little to show for it.
Zelensky really has a “no steps back” policy. It’s small wonder Europe is hesitant to send more equipment.
Bakhmut is almost fully encircled. His order not to retreat has doomed the men fighting to protect his government.
Now, there’s artillery coverage over the last road out.
Never think that valor will be rewarded in these circumstances.
I wonder if the Pentagon is looking to regime change Zelensky after he’s ignored their advice. The SBU arresting Zelensky’s patron (Kolomoiski) and the purging of Zelensky’s cabinet members is a telling sign a change of the guard may be on the horizon.
Jim needs his own show, something analogous to NPR’s “The World.” He’s one of the best on the network, and totally underemployed. Also, in rebuttal to Russia’s whiny claim that we would be “escalating” to send F-16s to Ukraine; what about all those migs that they furnished Korea, Vietnam, and every other country the USA has fought over the last three quarters of a century? I say send Ukraine F-22s, since we’re about to decomission them. Let’s help them win, and stop messing aorund!
Countries are already sending in NATO standard equipment, artillery & armoured vehicles, including tanks, plus the UK & other countries have been training Ukrainian soldiers up to NATO standards to operate it,
So why would sending in NATO standard fighter jets change anything, as to cause any conflict with Russia?
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I wish I could drive those tanks and fly those planes. Would be cool.
pack your bags i’m sure the Nazis oops I mean Ukrainians will help you learn.
Slightly less cool if someone is shooting at you though.
Tragic to see so many die.. Russians are really soulless.
The US has been training Ukrainian pilots to fly F-16 for over a year since the beginning of the invasion so at the point the planes are delivered Ukraine will have a potent new weapon
Slovakia has updated MiG-29s that they said they would send. Ukraine already knows how to use them. Waiting for green light to ship.
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Seeing this all out support for Ukraine of almost every powerful countries in the world, Now, I pity Russia, but he was asking for it
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The UK has started training ukrainiane pilots on planes they wont say what ones but could be eurofighter or f16. i can guarantee the uk will be the 1st again to send planes like they did with the tanks.
I still say the way to go is the SYPMAP treaty between Ukraine and its Five western border states, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, and Moldova.
That’s the “Screw You Putin Military Assistance Pact”, seeing as how if Ukraine falls to Russian control those five states are at risk of being invaded.
That pact should be an easy sell to those six states, each country signing an individual pact with Ukraine.
The BS these people are spewing is utterly insane.
Nobody is gonna ford the Dnipro, let alone with armored brigades against a prepared defense.
They are talking about literally the only piece of the front those western tanks are absolutely not going to get used on.
You know the Brit’s very highly likely have SAS in Russia just as they do in USA and most other countries of interest.