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Among detained populations, the coronavirus is ‘a recipe for disaster,’ said Dr. Jonathan Giftos, who formerly worked at Rikers Island. Aired on 03/18/2020.
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  1. Members of congress that are currently infected with Coronavirus or suspect they are, are self isolating on full pay….

    But then voting against a bill that would at least enforce mandatory sick pay for an emergency period?

    Let’s call these people out for what they are… they’re mentally sick hypocrites

    1. @Dorian Grey I have no hate in me.I am just trying to wake people up on what the true danger is that people should prepare for because everything is pointing to one possible outcome because of this world crisis and what is happening to the economy’s of the world like America and what the effects our going to be.Uesing logic the truth is the truth deal with it because it will become the new normal.

    2. Hey I’m mentally sick and I don’t think at all like them. My mental illness makes me extremely angry at the president, instead.

    3. @Enter Username Here I say that is mentally healthy not sick here is a lot of people who are justifiably angry with him. For one thing he’s not a president he’s a con man.dont put yourself down for knowing the truth.Most people deny it and not face it .You are not doing that so I say that you are mentally healthy.

    4. @Dorian Grey exactly the point. They’ll happily limit the pay of others but not their own. Did you even get familiar with the bill? It helps a sliver of American workers.

    5. @Ben Frank That bill wasn’t focused on the American workers. Did you familiarize yourself with the plan of three bills?

  2. Is this Republican from Congress and the Senate? If yes, it’s poetic justice that he voted against impeaching Donald Trump who made the pandemic worse.

    1. Right it’s Donald trumps fault for making it worse. Keep blaming other people instead of taking personal inventory

  3. “I think, importantly, what Obama did leave Trump is a global health infrastructure that we had set up informed by the lessons of the Ebola outbreak,” Ben Rhodes said before pointing to a National Security Council (NSC) pandemic directorate that was dismantled by the Trump administration in 2018.

    And what we did is set up, in the White House, … an office that was responsible for managing pandemics, managing global health threats that was shut down two years ago by President Trump.

    And when you don’t have an office like that, you don’t have dedicated people inside the White House who are ensuring that information is acted upon. When you see an outbreak in a place like Wuhan, China, you want people in the White House who are thinking about what needs to be done right away so that you don’t get behind the curve, which is what happened in this White House.

    You need a president who’s willing to hear bad news, willing to understand that they’re going to have to focus on something that they may have not intended to focus on. President trump clearly did not want to hear that bad news when he heard about the outbreak in coronavirus,”

    –Ben Rhodes, Former Deputy National Security Adviser under President Obama

    1. Trump even knew about Corona as early as November 2019, and still did nothing 10 people I know including myself got Corona it is the worst sickness I’ve ever dealt with.

  4. When you want to experience stupidity, you can always count on USA to deliver.
    To transport people all over the place currently, when some may be infected, is raw stupidity at work.

    1. I love the way you idiots make Trump responsible for any thing negative that happens.  You should take this up with the Democrats in California 😉

    2. crocusflower Hey white person, KD Lang listening lame, again, provide a source or you a sucka. Stop spouting made up sh it, it doesn’t help us.

    3. Same time when some countries in Europe wont send anyone to jail if their conviction is less than 2 months , that will be enforced later .

    4. ICE is the wrong solution. We need a better immigration system. One that is properly designed and funded to efficiently process and sort applicants.

  5. This administration is one and only despicable government America has ever experienced nothing is off chart even in the midst of this deadly virus 🦠 circulating around

    1. Olivia, Trump has done a pretty good job with the virus, look around the world we may not be able too stop the spread? You could shut up with your TDS for now sounds a little narcissistic!

    2. Bud Fudlacker I will give that pretty good job 👏 assessment to Canada 🇨🇦 where Trudeau has done tremendous work not to trump who played with it from the beginning and now over 100 death and over 7000 cases and the numbers keep climbing up

    1. This malady will expose just how bad it is in our USA – the exposure is palpable in revealing our failures. Question remains: Who Will Care? Answer is: We Better!

    1. So basically they’re going to pay for the wall like Donald Trump said AND they’re going to build it lol

    1. @Misfit Homemaker I am not copying you but I’ve been saying basically the same thing’s and the coments I have Ben righting have gotten nasty replays and only two people has said to me that they are glad I said it.I have also been saying that the only way to kick out Donald Trump the con man is for America to stand up for freedom.The only replies I have gotten for that are all nasty.You are not the only one trying to get people of there lazy a;: And stand up for themselves.

    2. @Carol Price that’s because I live on a farm and grow food. I weed a garden and feed sheep. If that does not work out, I’ll go get a job and work, if that doesn’t work, I’ll trust in God. Yes, I’m willing to fight for that and not have my hard work stolen. People have lost that.
      I got some kind of virus with the same symptoms as covid 19 in 2018. I had this sickness twice, then again the next year. The second time I had walking pnumonia. A brother on YT prayed for me and that night I felt a warmth, like an angel came and warmed it out of me. This sickness I had was pretty bad,. And I did not get to just lie there in bed, I still had to do things, like always. lts not that I wish it on anyone but, faith can get you through alot. Those prisoners can surrender themselves to God’s will…they need to.
      When I got this coughing thing the third time, I asked the Lord ” why?” That night I got a dream that I was taking a test and I had to answer what a word in a different language meant. I looked up the word in the morning. It was an old English word…from medevil times that means “to wash”. It was to cleanse me. To cleanse me of sin, of pride, of attitude To help me to have compassion and know what others are going through. It was to prepare me. Now, some of those prisoners may not be the worst ppl in the world, but I’m betting they could learn some compassion and do with some spiritual cleansing. Let them face this virus. Send ppl with immunity to help them, to show them compassion when we get that, because we wil get ppl with antibodiesl.
      If you have an oregano plant. Cut it, crush the leaves a little and pour boiling water over it and drink it. It will make you sweat and help you sleep. I know that cough is terrible, it makes you achey and listless, it weakens the smooth muscle and you feel like you’ll never be strong again, you can’t even conrol your bladder you cough so hard. But with time, strength returns, I’m telling you there is recovery.

    3. @Misfit Homemaker You are amazing and people need to hear your story because your life is going to become the example of living and not only surviving.It is your life that will become the new normal and the life I and outher’s has had a figment of the imagination.Both me and my mother know Jesus Christ and both of us are empaths we have been feeling this coming fore a long time I have felt it all of my life problem is how do you tell people who don’t want to know the truth and are happy living in lie?That is wear they live in lies because they want the lies to be truth and the truth is be lies.You and your family are going to make it people like me and my mother even with Jesus we will have a even harder time then ever before and countrys will no longer exists in a year note the economy that will jest be a word that no one will use any more.The truth is say goodbye to America it will be gone from the earth in a year.We will have Marshall law next.The last grasp of community.My real name is John price and I use what I have to help whoever I can that is how my mother and me live my twin sister is dead inside and God showed me the Gap between us it is impossible to get over because I don’t want to be like my twin who only cares about herself and rejected Jesus Christ that is not me and my mother.Your life story is a example that people need so please for our Lord Jesus Christ keep on living it and I will spread your true story to give people real hope and not lies and fiction because that is not what they need right now.They need real hope maybe more people will come to Jesus Christ one can hope and I am Glade to say not false hope.PS my mother’s name is Carolyn price. C

    4. @Carol Price Thank you John. I’m just a person….. I have so many stories, I want to get them out but my husband is private and does not want me to have a channel. But I know I have another purpose….I’m just not sure, exactly what it is, probably I am one of the safe haven people
      .when I was a child, I had an abusive step parent and I died, or came close to dieing one night at his hand. This was in 1980. I saw Jesus and he had me make a choice to stay there or come back. If I stayed the person that hurt me would be punished and if I came back he wouldn’t. I asked “if I go back, will I know things that are to come?”. Jesus said, “no promises.”.
      The first dream God gave me was after being baptized into a new church in 1983.
      I tell you this to confirm to you.
      This virus does overwhelm the hospitals. It’s patriots that are arrested, not evil people like Q says, Jesus will make things right, not Trump.
      We go to war in a desert place. The Kurds land is taken by the Iraqis
      Yes. There is some kind of judgement event coming to the US, the dream was in metafor but it’s firey and it sends shockwaves throughout our country.
      Yes. America falls in one hour.
      Yes, there are planets, moons and two suns we will see one day.
      And, there other things, but those above are the major things that the dreams have warned about that are confirmed by many. If you want me to confirm anything else that’s been prophesied by God’s people, I will, if I can…I have not seen every detail of everything, I have to discern what others have been shown like everyone else, but there is more I can confirm.
      Thank you for your message to me. I feel sad alot, I feel hope when others like you are kind. Your name, being a woman’s name helps you see what it’s like to be a woman. My circomstances help me see what it’s like to be a minority and a foreigner, even though I’m not. God is teaching us. You know how it is some days are great, even hopeful. We need to stay strong and remember the mustard seed.

    5. @Misfit Homemaker PS EVERY PERSON ON THE PLANET IS important and gender means NOTHING.YOU ARE GOLDEN NEVER LET ANY ONE GET YOU TO BELIEVE otherwise.YOU HAVE my complete respect and no matter what I will treat you with respect even through I have never met you and my mother Carolyn Ruth price her hole name is the same.We live to help whoever we can even if it is only encouragement.

    1. @Silver Jones you know what else would have saved lives? Not firing the experts of the CDC, not claiming Corona equals the flue.
      And for the potential cure, ask the Cubans what they use… Right… You can’t ask the Cubans because that’s another country that you have bullied for half a century.
      America first, sure that will save you this time? Of course the UK is still your friend, they can travel all they want… One of the only countries that so far didn’t take any measures at all.
      All very smart decisions that your great leader made

    2. @Olivier Coen Shut up. Even the doctors agreed that lives were saved because of the travel ban. We would not even be here it weren’t for the Chinese so your praises of the CCP – who btw killed the doctor who tried to blow the whistle on this – is so sickening.

    3. @Jill Featherman always so respectful when you guys disagree with people. Let me put it this way, if you plug a hole in your boat but you leave another one open, you are still going to sink no? The travelban could have been something if it was complete, but half is the same as not.
      As for the Chinese and their government, sure it started in China. The first documented case of AIDS was in New York, do we hold the US responsible for HIV? Or call it the American disease?
      The whistleblower doctor died of the effects of covid19, he wasn’t killed. China isn’t perfect, not by far. The way they treat the Falun Gong is disgusting to say the least. But they also are trying to help the rest of the world at the moment. I know that in your polarised society you don’t have room for both good and bad in the same actor and I understand why that concept is so hard to grasp for people who are fed FOX trash every day but reality is different.
      And all this doesn’t change the fact that your idol tried to steal a vaccine that the whole world needs for his own profit.
      Which is a James bond level evil move. And since you keep supporting him you are complicit to a certain degree. And you shouldn’t be surprised that the world looks at you with disgust for your total lack of moral and your money above all else attitude.

    4. @Olivier Coen “But they are also trying to help the rest of the world at the moment”. They should be. It is because of them that the world is suffering.

    5. @Jill Featherman easy to point to someone else s ‘collective’ responsibility apparently but somehow you fail to address trump’s/the US’s ‘keep the vaccine for ourselves’ mentality…

    1. They need to be thinned out for backing clown in chief no matter how incompetent he proves himself to be.

  6. My guess is the federal gov is keeping something secret that’s far bigger and far worse than things are now that’s going to happen this is just the start

    1. No big secret. Just geometric progression. Someone needs to clue in Sen.Ron Johnson….not a secret but this is just beginning.

    2. @moomoofish 1 He’s such a liar. He prob didnt even take the test. He already has the Moron-a-virus so I guess no need to test for the other virus.

    3. Lol you crazy. What could it be? Stop being emotional and worried. Like give me a specific example of something like what your talking about from the past because if not then shut up and stop fear mongering.

  7. Smart. Get as many people as possible in small enclosures where they don’t allow toilet paper or soap. Real smart.

    1. Fake Name Have you noticed the crazy racism that people are spouting lately? Nothing like a little stress to make people lose their reasonable facade.

    2. @Matthew Lewis yes a can of sardines where everyone is in different locations. You’re so smart.

    1. ty it is here’s way
      Thought for day…All those ex-candidates that went with the centrist, corporate -democrats were too weak-sauce or shills all along, good riddance! It would hurt more and been more damaging later or had they been chosen, apparently those against the empowerment the American people tried to cover all bases.
      To the Progressive party, heroes rush in where only Angels dare to tread. You don’t throw in the towel ’cause evil is so mean : ( They were always nasty. You knew that: They allowed the GOP to cage helpless children whose families strived for a better safer life, this caging began with the DNC under obama (we the regular folks had no idea) and thought it’s an insidous evil, then trump said, “Hold my beer” exasperated the act by caging more per cage, at a higher rate, packing them in, having some to sleep on concrete floors with thin silver insulation-like things instead of sheets and blankets, a horrid sight to see! The GOP were allowed to get away with misplacing children (Who currently could be being exploited in any number of awful ways), and ignoring the courts’ time-limits to find them, the DNC which started it all, called for no fines, arrests, nor sanctions for the crimes against humanity at the border. Under the care of the GOP, some in charge disrepected, humiliated, molested children and families, some were sexually molested (some were told to drink toilet water). There were children that died in excruciatingly sad ways, babies snatched from their mothers arms breaking the nurturing bond…I mention this for it’s the most heinous evil in modern times under Heaven {outside of wartimef). I can think of, out of the many many evil joint efforts of the DNC and GOP control.
      The DNC allows the GOPs’ evil and does its own evil acts mostly on the downlow. Inaction is how the DNC allows evil, it has the great power of mportant people, media-outlets, and celebrity-ism with the power of Democracy (which they are in the midst of destroying because it also empowers regular everyday Americans) puts the DNC at the apex of power and all unchallenged,uncensored, unsanctioned evil political acts are condoned by them, for they Do have the power of Change, they just don’t choose to use it.The GOP is a lower tier in power, theirs being only the power of money (and so bribery), white supremacist type groups hate, and the devotion of cultist Archie Bunker types (the DNC have their cultist types also). So though the GOP evil is more obvious, the DNC evil is more insidious.Now for my discern-ation: There is a coalition betwieen the two factions a glue, the strive to bring forth a dictatorship to lead to, always their agenda, the New World Order{NWO} and the glue is satanism (which explains why the DNC and its controlled media never addressed trumps’ over-usage of satanic hand-signs {3 sixes} when public speaking while campaigning (though lately not so much??? O.o) and the pyramid one he uses devotedly when sitting. People ask yourself who but evil would allow people to be poisoned by their town/city water-supplies, vast numbers of civilians to be slaughtered in endless wars, treat children, babies, and families in such horrendous ways. We, this world was forwarned of satan being in charge of this world and it/she/he certainly is…for a set time then the gig is up! That doesn’t mean we whom aren’t with that scene should roll-over, I say we have free-will, lets use it to keep figthing for the good, so as Heaven can see our spirits, our hearts, and us Trying…
      Progressives what kind of heroes are you? So wwhat? the DNC revealed their full evil power, you shouldn’t fold or bow to it (they are STILL caging children!). Progresses if you are true to your movement stop sobbing over losts (Heroics is never garanteed, the beauty is in not kowtowing and putting truth to power) and fight! No real movement is one person anyway, it’s the hope, the dream and the strive for better. Progressive need to drop the defeatist attitudes and any idea of settling for less, pick your nuts up out the sand create your own people polilical-platform! Never stop Trying!
      When Christ returns, let him find you Trying…

    2. @David Aponte – no, we have a pandemic, but you have the movie. here all the country is well informed and the government takes real efficient measures, while your president was shaking hands and saying the virus will disappear like a miracle in spring. it’s very different to suffer a pandemic with a president like yours. we are looking at your country and we are in shock. yes, it’s like a horror movie: dumb teens partying on the beach, the nuts president. in Madrid, Telepizza is bringing lunch for 11.000 kids, because they cannot eat at school anymore. things like this make the huge difference.

    1. Homeless have options, not many. Inmates are Isolated, facilities and lockdowns. No moves except, medical, court maybe, or released to home / street. They have safe guards to keep them from a problem and death. You gotta do your time. Plus lawsuits.

    2. sadly
      Thought for day…All those ex-candidates that went with the centrist, corporate -democrats were too weak-sauce or shills all along, good riddance! It would hurt more and been more damaging later or had they been chosen, apparently those against the empowerment the American people tried to cover all bases.
      To the Progressive party, heroes rush in where only Angels dare to tread. You don’t throw in the towel ’cause evil is so mean : ( They were always nasty. You knew that: They allowed the GOP to cage helpless children whose families strived for a better safer life, this caging began with the DNC under obama (we the regular folks had no idea) and thought it’s an insidous evil, then trump said, “Hold my beer” exasperated the act by caging more per cage, at a higher rate, packing them in, having some to sleep on concrete floors with thin silver insulation-like things instead of sheets and blankets, a horrid sight to see! The GOP were allowed to get away with misplacing children (Who currently could be being exploited in any number of awful ways), and ignoring the courts’ time-limits to find them, the DNC which started it all, called for no fines, arrests, nor sanctions for the crimes against humanity at the border. Under the care of the GOP, some in charge disrepected, humiliated, molested children and families, some were sexually molested (some were told to drink toilet water). There were children that died in excruciatingly sad ways, babies snatched from their mothers arms breaking the nurturing bond…I mention this for it’s the most heinous evil in modern times under Heaven {outside of wartimef). I can think of, out of the many many evil joint efforts of the DNC and GOP control.
      The DNC allows the GOPs’ evil and does its own evil acts mostly on the downlow. Inaction is how the DNC allows evil, it has the great power of mportant people, media-outlets, and celebrity-ism with the power of Democracy (which they are in the midst of destroying because it also empowers regular everyday Americans) puts the DNC at the apex of power and all unchallenged,uncensored, unsanctioned evil political acts are condoned by them, for they Do have the power of Change, they just don’t choose to use it.The GOP is a lower tier in power, theirs being only the power of money (and so bribery), white supremacist type groups hate, and the devotion of cultist Archie Bunker types (the DNC have their cultist types also). So though the GOP evil is more obvious, the DNC evil is more insidious.Now for my discern-ation: There is a coalition betwieen the two factions a glue, the strive to bring forth a dictatorship to lead to, always their agenda, the New World Order{NWO} and the glue is satanism (which explains why the DNC and its controlled media never addressed trumps’ over-usage of satanic hand-signs {3 sixes} when public speaking while campaigning (though lately not so much??? O.o) and the pyramid one he uses devotedly when sitting. People ask yourself who but evil would allow people to be poisoned by their town/city water-supplies, vast numbers of civilians to be slaughtered in endless wars, treat children, babies, and families in such horrendous ways. We, this world was forwarned of satan being in charge of this world and it/she/he certainly is…for a set time then the gig is up! That doesn’t mean we whom aren’t with that scene should roll-over, I say we have free-will, lets use it to keep figthing for the good, so as Heaven can see our spirits, our hearts, and us Trying…
      Progressives what kind of heroes are you? So wwhat? the DNC revealed their full evil power, you shouldn’t fold or bow to it (they are STILL caging children!). Progresses if you are true to your movement stop sobbing over losts (Heroics is never garanteed, the beauty is in not kowtowing and putting truth to power) and fight! No real movement is one person anyway, it’s the hope, the dream and the strive for better. Progressive need to drop the defeatist attitudes and any idea of settling for less, pick your nuts up out the sand create your own people polilical-platform! Never stop Trying!
      When Christ returns, let him find you Trying…

    1. Evangelia Hernandez these are all very good points but since the other day I learned they’re doing some sort of swab testing and pushing to get check results within 24hrs as for anything else we are in a time for a Flu Season and being this Virus is said to closely mimic the flu (causing similar symptoms) anyone exhibiting these signs should be tested first then quarantined. And like I said they can then check the rest of us. The severity of this Virus is said to affect a great deal of us in different ways. And as you seemed to have pointed out unless we check everybody we can come into more than one contact at a time, and they don’t have a vaccination for this yet so essentially it doesn’t matter. But if we don’t tend to the people we know have it for sure and are clearly exhibiting these signs and see that they’re properly quarantined it can clearly be re-spread to us, the worsening effect won’t change. The issue is how we tend to get all our medical supplies from China. About 95% of our medications are said to be made there…etc. so we have to maintain social distancing, start making our own supplies here again make more and faster testing kits..etc. that everyone can go to remote location get tested for and receive back much sooner if possible. If tested positive then they should be instructed to stay home until they’ve been cleared. We never prepared for such a pandemic. We never did anything special to develop a procedure even after the first case of the Ebola Virus came to the U.S. we need to quarantine definite cases first, then have our current workers checked for safety precautions, handling people and medications, then we take the next step to have every one checked to see who might have the virus and rebuild and distribute our work force, anyone who will be looking for new jobs. There will be a great need for more work than ever now . We can only do our best to prioritize.

    2. Evangelia Hernandez I’m not scared though and I have an Auto-Immune Disorder ( Psoriasis) I also ended up in a seizure and went to a hospital back in October and was released a month Later. Guess where I work? A pharmacy. I don’t know what your current/past conditions are or were. But I think it’s safe to say I’ve probably ran into a lot of people who’ve come into contact with the virus and while I may have received it from them I haven’t exhibited any signs and I continue to maintain my social distance as much as possible and do my hand washing. I actually feel good.

    3. R0B wrong. There was never a procedure or anything set in place for him to follow by if such a pandemic were to happen and China was hiding information on flights, letting them leave the country when they should have immediately stopped everything when they discovered it wasn’t just a flu virus that had been detected. Look how fast it went all over Europe and how bc Trump still managed to make the decision to shut everything down we haven’t gone full scale and everything blown up. He had people arguing with him to keep the borders open, calling him a racist and xenophobic! Look at the number of people who became sick in such a short period of time bc they didn’t social distance themselves soon enough and properly. You can’t blame him when you look at all the things he did in such a short period of time and with the information he had. Obama waited 6 MONTHS!!! Before he closed the border and didn’t provide daily information of what was going on or any actual help (SARS?). He didn’t promote people practice social distancing or testing? TRUMP has been TRANSPARENT and HONEST and FORTH COMING as he can be in his duties still FIGHTING FAR LEFTISTS. Do you realize if he really wanted control he could declare Martial Law and stay in office until we’ve completely put together an actual plan and safety’s in place for such another Pandemic and declare War against China for being so dirty? He could literally have everyone out their take on a job and work in the new sectors and manufacturing plants and all the other new jobs we need to create bc China will no longer be making any products for us. NO MORE CHINA MADE!!!

    4. @Karsten Wehsner Tests are run on different equipment. There is no World Standard for testing virus. Medicine is Business, no matter if Government pays or citizen pays.

  8. This is going to be rough. Americans travel and come in contact with each other regularly. Not enough testing , not enough tests, no preparation. God Help us.

    1. @Myla Starseed Idiots like Leroy will continue to downplay this even as hundreds will be dying each day.

    2. @piny 09 Yeah, I remember when the stock market dropped 10,000 points in a little over a month over H1N1. Oh, wait.

    3. Put trump in his room with Fox on the TV and let some experts take over this response. You know, someone smart, competent and knowledgeable.

    1. Peter Sorensen Peter Sorensen Well nothing you just mentioned is fact based its all just angry speech so if you’re that convinced that he should go to prison or get the death penalty (which I think you referred to) then become a prosecutor since you seem to have all the evidence or in the short term you could run for President you do seem to have more energy and seem much more eloquent than his projected opponent in November!

    2. @Peter Sorensen Good way of dealing with something like this is to be ‘heartless’ sometimes… can you imagine hillary at this point?

      Shed be in China right now shaking pings hand telling him what a great job hes done just like the WHO. Meanwhile his state ran media is covering everything up while the people suffer (business as usual in china).

      Think before you talk, you guys have it much better than most over there… Direct your anger at those responsible and get a grip.

    3. Peter Sorensen Have you ever thought that maybe you and the other useful idiots are the ones living on Mars or was that never considered?

    1. But that is the way the system has been designed. Those born into privilege work to maintain the imbalance via exploitation, they is in essence capitalism.
      The truth trump uttered that everyone forget was “the American dream is dead!”

    1. Guess if necessary he will be digging graves alongside other inmates, albeit slowly due to health issues 😁

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