The Prince and Princess of Wales are in Boston to attend the Earthshot Prize Awards. The trip, however, is overshadowed by controversy at Buckingham Palace after an aide resigned following what the palace called "unacceptable and deeply regrettable" remarks to a Black executive. CNN Royal Correspondent Max Foster and CNN contributor Trisha Goddard have more. #CNN #News
Racism controversy overshadows Will and Kate’s US visit
I’m a black 🇬🇧woman and a white woman who I was having a conversation with asked me if I was going on holiday this year, I said no but I am next year,she said oh to where your parents are from and I said no as I don’t do stay-cations, she doubled down and said no I mean to where your parents are from,I said they were born here,nothing but cricket’s after that. Some people 🙄 😒
@Josette Harvey-Nichols get over it.I am an immigrant and I get asked the same question all the time.Some with bad intentions but the vast majority simple curiosity.I don’t care,I tell them where I came from and it happened to be an African country.Stop with the victim mentality or you will always be a victim
@P Gilligan She was trying to delegitimise an English black woman’s very existence.All she had to do was take note of her regional accent & the old bird could have saved herself some time & got onto the reason she was actually at the palace for in the 1st place but even after being told 7+ times that her parents were English born,she kept trying to make her feel like a foreigner in her own land & that’s blatant racism!
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@Historian well I’m not a immigrant & neither are my parents we were born in 🇬🇧 ,why’s that so hard to understand that that makes us black 🇬🇧,now ask about my grandparents that’s a different conversation altogether
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@Deborah Freedman when I and my late hubby married,I wore a Indian wedding dress (love the culture) does that make me Indian? No. Anyone can appreciate another country’s culture and dress like them,it doesn’t mean there from there
The initial question wasn’t bad. But after the black lady said she didn’t know the other lady kept persisting and wouldn’t let it go. The majority of the black diaspora around the world have no idea who they are from Africa. The higher ups know though and say nothing. Amos 9 verse 7 kjv 💡
@The Smiley Effect 💯 true and disgusting 👍
@Hanney Salifi
@Hanney Salifi Self hate runs deep with you. Not all Africans are the same, some wear their traditional dress and some wear western type dress. Free your mind and the rest will follow.
@Cheryl W I was not talking about western dresses!!! stop showing your ignorance. you white people should stop lecturing us …. Africans have demure traditional outfits we wear to official event s …… so take your whiteness away from me. unlike ms Ngozi I am very proud of my heritage …. And don’t ever think for me …. I love my skin I love where I come and I don’t need white woman lecturing me….about self hate … what a joke !
@Cheryl W what does free my mind mean actually???? You people just say anything ….. WE DONT NEED WHITE APOLOGISTS TO DEFEND OUR RACE!! you no nothing of my race …. And as a free thinker I am allowed to critically analyze this situation.
Why would Ms Ngozi change her English name to Ngozi Fulani…. Btw Ngozi is Nigerian and Fulani is tribe in African … that is a mismatch right there …. Proceeds to style her hair and her outfits traditionally African and won’t expect a question like that?!!!! And then she says she is British? When asked … that is the definition of gaslighting….. if I travelled to London and met her at an event I would ask the same question to know where she is from in Africa
At the same time that old white woman should have never touched her hair or continue to ask the same question so many times
They are both lunatics in my opinion….
I see it more as elder abuse. Race baiting and then shaming on social media.
😠 Fuk 1962pjh what you saying here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScZkRHtm_U
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Because the sweet old lady wouldn’t accept that she was British 😂
It’s not race baiting.it was pure disrespectful from Williams godmother plain and simple.she had no right to do what she did she know better.how she go to a domestic violence shelter run by minority and then ask racist questions? That not what she was there for.but when Harry and meghan said their experiences within the royal family ppl quick to say they liars when they were telling the truth all along and still till this day all of British media still being disrespectful and telling lies, the royal family never defend Harry or meghan but add on to the hate and we got u tubers who get paid bashing and selling lies against Harry and meghan but ppl think that ok.
Like the interview, released while Prine Philip was dying.
@Mer Mcd Philip the other elderly person they used to make excuses for every time he made a racist comment!
Oh he was from a different generation blah blah blah!
Imagine a world where we all lived in harmony and were kind to each other.
@Demarcus Faulkner BAM!! MATTHEW 22:14,”FOR MANY ARE CALLED BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN”!!🙏💯💪✌😁
@Armed Liberal That’s a great way to live in harmony, eliminate those who you don’t agree with. wow.
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@INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳 they shite the street, hon.
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The allegaton of racism is merely a lazy agenda-type assertion that ignores the fact that the recipient
Ngozi Fulani was clearly non-English and was attired in apparel that was connected with ethnic origins
beyond UK shores. Ergo, what confronted her was of interest to her late Majesty’s long serving lady in
waiting. I have an American side to my UK family and they would have no hesitation in explaining
their own origins to such an enquiry. Methinks the response from Ms Faluni was unnecessarily obtuse
and IMHO was a calculated mode of behaviour, smacking of an agenda-driven action on her part. I
suspect there is some “background” here that is not receiving full attention from the MSM.
😠 Fuk Mark Newberry what you saying here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScZkRHtm_U
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What made her “non-English”, exactly? (Edit) England is a country, not a race.
Imagine a 90 yr old woman would have views that aren’t inline with today’s…….I’m stunned.
So she saw every civil rights movement for the past 80 years in real life, across the globe, and still has racist views. Shame.
@Rob Smith Dial a scam’s busy on this thread huh
Next time someone asks me where I’m from I’m going to scream racist. Just cause it’s so cool to do so. Who cares that I would actually desire the chance to rant and rail about how the Romans killed pagan Celtic matriarchal democracy with Christianity. Not that I’m itching to kill more Christian idiocy. Nope instead I am gonna cry racist.
@Jacqueline Leitch That’s a mature mind state,it doesn’t effect me so I’ll just belittle the entire issue.(sarcasm)
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I constantly get asked by white people “where are you from?” Because I’m Asian and have an Asian name. I answer with the city I live in. Then ask “no where were you born?” Then I name the city I was born in. One old white man even went as far as “what is your nationality?” And my answer was “American” which really pissed him off.
@An Acc and the old white man wasn’t triggering? Of course not. Blame the victim smh per usual. It wasn’t a harmless question especially since the guy was pissed at their answer of being in fact American. Sheesh.
Just reply with none of your business in all future encounters before going down this rabbit hole of microaggressions and gaslighting
@Daniela Ong I would say that my family originated in Scotland and I have been able to go and visit my homeland, how about you? When I travel to other countries and people are pretty sure I am not a local they often ask where I am from, I have no problem telling them without trying to be a jerk about it. Some people actually enjoy meeting with people from other countries.
And we have white people who lived and born in Africa, and have African nationality but we don’t ask them where they are from .
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It’s unfortunate that something that happened thousands of miles away should “cast a shadow” on individuals who aren’t in any direct way responsible for said incident. Media rhetoric, both mainstream and social, seem to be training people to make those kinds of associations these days. People can lose sense of perspective when everything seems amplified and connected.
@Mer Mcd for the Windsor’s and their ancestors to get to the top, and stay at the top of a group of English aristocratic families, they had to be every ~ist in the book. Misogynist, sexist, classist, racist, ageist, elitist, etc.. I’m for the most part a monarchist but I’m realistic. Whether it is an individual member of the Royal Family, or an institutional bias, the kind of business whose foundation is a group of people, chosen to be your betters, not based on merit, must have those ~ isms at its centre.
@Mer Mcd – Nonsense. Which country in this nonsensical farce called the “commonwealth” benefits to the degree that britain benefits???
It needs to be dismantled. Britain is nothing more than a parasite on its knees. Useless to the commonwealth and nothing more than a taker.
@Carey dePass that would include the Scots, as well, the UK are four nations, not one. If we’re going down that route, innclude the Normans , Celts , Romans Danish and Vikings etc thay enslaved the people of Britain, from every country., so sexisrt, , we had the 2 best Queens ever in our history Elizabeth the First and Second. .ageist? The Queen was 96
@Jacqueline Leitch debating on here is like throwing jelly onto a wall, it’s exhausting. We’re all either Rst, or ignorant. Defended the RF seems not to be allowed on here, as they have never got the right to reply. They accept the interview as gospel, without question, and just attack.we do not share their history, yet they project it onto the UK.
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really? we are shocked a really old woman said something someone found offensive? when my relatives over 70 say anything off i don’t pay much attention because i know they are in various stages of mental decline and grew up in a drastically different time period. trying to correct their behavior at that age is a lesson in futility but these talking heads love to feel superior having all the answers
😠 Fuk deadnights what you saying here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScZkRHtm_U
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It’s 2022 with all her grandchildren and people around her not ever telling her it’s wrong 😮😮😮
the woman is 83, possible cognitive decline? it is like some people have never spent time around pensioners. they say things we know you shouldn’t but correcting them does not work. it doesn’t matter who says it and expecting an adult that has gone through all her life to really take on board the opinions of some kid she still views as a baby is just a joke. people need to grow up and learn how to deal with old people being old instead of conflating it as a systemic issue being perpetuated. this generation will die out in 20-30 years and then we will be arguing about some other old guy using the wrong pronouns for a cat girl attack helicopter
You are trivializing this blatant racist interrogation and excusing this old woman racist behavior using ageism. Disgusting!😊
I don’t get upset when several persons asked me or still continuing to ask me where are I’m from even If I born here, I feel so proud they asked me that because I have the perfect opportunity to explain them how my family come here to US and all the sacrifices they made to give me a brilliant future. i know that day this persons will leave me learning something about me and my roots. So I think at the end of the day it depends on how you see it: if you want to feel offended or if you just want to convey some knowledge about your origins to other people
Perhaps what you expressed is a uniquely American perspective. As we are a nation built on immigration, I find most Americans are proud to share their connection to their nation(s) of family origin.
@Cheryl W I agree with you that being offensive is a choice. But I can choose not to be offended by anyone’s ignorant, abusive or demeaning comments and behaviour, whether they’re intended or not. My response is always my choice. I do not relinquish the responsibility or consequences of my behaviour to anyone outside myself. Therefore, I remain steadfast in my assertion that being offended is a choice, and in my appreciation for “pato’s” approach to teach rather than judge, even in the face of obviously inappropriate behaviour. This person is not playing the victim, but being fully accountable for their own response. Kudos!
@susan forrest I have the same feeling. As a Canadian, we are also a nation of immigrants, and I am proud of my mixed heritage. I understand some groups are more sensitive to this kind of inquiry, with justification. However, often people are just trying to connect, possibly blundering ignorantly into delicate territory, and maybe we should give each other the benefit of the doubt before we assign malicious intent. 🙂
@Wambui Jacobs I’ve been asked where I was from when visiting many of the 43 countries I have been to. I have many great experiences in Rwanda, Kenya, Namibia, South Africa, Jordan, Lebanon, Germany, Austria and Belize as well as others. I enjoy running into a woman at my local grocery store here in the Mid West who’s from Nairobi and through asking her about herself found that he brother worked at my favorite restaurant there. I met two young men from South Sudan at a car dealership one day and we struck up a conversation and they were amazed someone actually knew their hometown of Juba South Sudan. I enjoy learning about people and other cultures. I have friends all over the world and I cherish each one of them.
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Anyone who’s been bombarded with a kind of run on the bank type questioning, should turn round and ask “you too, by the way where are you from”? That should hopefully equal things out and give them food for a long thought.
Precisely!
Speaking as a Black person myself, there is no issue when we are asked where we are from, nor is it the reason that causes offense. The problem comes when we already respond to the question and explain that we’re a native born citizen and yet the stereotyping bigot continues to press questions and interrogate us as if we are foreigners. People don’t get to choose whether or not to feel offended by racist assumptions or behavior, that is not how emotions work and those targeted by racial stereotypes or racial bias have no obligation to bottle up their frustration with how they are treated. Do not expect every minority to pander to the curiosities of stereotyping bigots as if we are docile house slaves with a duty to entertain stupid questions about our nation of origin even after we already gave the answer. If we say that we are born in America, then you have your answer. If we say that we are born in the UK, then you have your answer. People need to stop asking dumb questions, most Black descendants of slavery do not know anything about our ancestral language or ancestral country of origin because that knowledge was stripped from our families over generations of slavery. If you don’t already know this, then you need more education about the Transatlantic Slave Trade and the African Diaspora.
@George Houston Love this comment. This is how we get to know one another simply by asking questions like you have. And we grow from it too when we learn from each others different backgrounds, cultures, upbringings. That’s how I’ve formed some of the closest friendships with people of different ethnicities.
It’s all in how we view and react to what’s in front of us.
@Leene Reen This incident also took place at a conference that was discussing violence against women. My gosh wouldn’t it be nice to learn what impact that has on women in other countries and perhaps a method or program that is used in Australia may work in Rwanda or Jordan or Cuba.
@George Houston That’s a good point. I wonder if anything like that happens in places like these. It should! The culture in a particular country has a lot to do with how something like violence against women is handled or not handled. It’s a complex yet very interesting discussion to be had and yes lessons, tips, ideas can always be learnt by speaking to other ethnicities and cultures.
@Leene Reen Sharing thoughts and ideas with others that live on this planet is essential. One of the saddest things ever told to me was by a 22 year old Iranian woman who lived in the same housing complex as me in Kurdistan. I met her at the airport where she worked and I told her where I lived and she said “me too”. Sometimes she would come to my villa where she wanted to practice her English and I learned more about the Kurds. Naturally she had a male escort with her on her visits but they didn’t speak English. She said to me one day “sometimes I hate who I am”. I didn’t understand that as I thought she was such a nice young woman who simply wanted to choose a boyfriend on her own without having him chosen for her. When I asked what she meant she basically said “I hate being a woman” I was stunned and saddened. Her life as a woman was vastly more confined and restricted than a mans and she was miserable and sad about her life in general. Many people in the west can’t grasp how life is for others on this planet. BUT THEY NEED TO LEARN, and we learn by being caring, compassionate, and listening to others.
@Leene Reen ,,, WTF is a person of COLOR ?.. What Color ?.. Your particular Color, Race or Ethnicity may not go through the same ignorant bull💩 that people of African descent have to deal with.. All so called “people of color” are not descendants of Slaves, or of African descent.. You may not have a clue, or be able to empathize with discrimination, bigotry and racism..Of course it’s not a “big deal” to none melanated bigots, they don’t have a clue of how it feels to experience ignorant arse bigotry.. A lifetime of dealing with ignorant arse racist will make a person sensitive to direct bigots..So damn tired of self righteous, willfully ignorant, bigotry denying fools..
Always remember that a Monarchy is a system inherently based on the idea that one family/class/race is intrinsically superior to all others.
@socillizt4life indeed one could project all their masterbatory ladder climbing dreams based on whatever issues on the royal family. It’s interesting that. When I was an actual outcast as a child, the royal family stood for me as decency and a family that would willingly work out its issues and willingly work towards a better solution to living together on the planet.
This seems to be upheld constant by all the attacks. And having said that, I am glad to see them weathering these attacks. If they can’t roll with it and grow with it they will have become less than they are meant to be and have evolved to be.
I am a democratic socialist and I am not so naive as to not understand that the BRF alone is able to communicate and calm
horrifying dictators and demons on our planet. The reasons are many but the BRF still needs to be in the wars that are waged on them.
@socillizt4life don’t read it.
@Jacqueline Leitch Wrong person,my mistake.✌️
@socillizt4life lol
Oh like millionaires are in America. They can get away with anything but have no class
Hey Lemon, I always thought it was a bad idea to have you on the day time. I agree with lots of things you say but overall you love to stir controversy.
If I was the lady in question, I would just have asked the elderly lady where she was from
Or just tell her she is from planet Earth. That’s what I answer when people ask me where I’m from.
I think it’s amazing one family has managed to finesse a whole country into bankrolling an extravagant lifestyle…I mean we’re kinda doing it too but smh
Yeah and they serve their country. Who do you think is the strongest fundraisers just by mentioning, highlighting, showing up day in and day out to personally go to every hospice, child centers. All you have known are politicians who only come out to shake your hands to get your vote
Yeah, 35 million a year, while the US pays billions
The Royal Family bring in billions to the UK economy, no one is bank rolling them.
Remember, the former queen Victoria’s family attempted to convince her to step down or have her institutionalized for carrying on with a man of Indian descent whom she very well liked as a close friend and advisor.
She also got on very well with John Brown, a Scot. they wanted that stopped too. So.
Racism isn’t okay, but imo we should give a little grace to those who are older and aren’t as up to date with current conversations and common sense around race if their intent isn’t malicious. The old lady was acting inappropriately, was definitely out of line, and should never do it again ofc, but at the end of the day, she was only trying to make conversation with a black lady who had a distinctly non-anglo name, wearing what appears to be a dress that is of African heritage. People unintentionally make careless mistakes and do stupid things all the time, we are all human and shouldn’t be banished into the abyss because we are all flawed.
😠 Fuk M what you saying here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScZkRHtm_U
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My mom instilled empathy in me by many old sayings. A favorite one is to do not judge another person until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
I think this Lady’s persistence in posing those particular questions shows both her age, cultural biases, and her grief.
I imagine that over the many years of Royal service in the position of a Lady in Waiting to the Queen she must have learned and can read the nuanced and subtle clues of a guest’s body language. To be able to recognize when a guest is uncomfortable. She probably didn’t think she was hurting someones feelings in what she was asking. But instead thought she was doing her usual task of trying to put guests at their ease.
She responded to that preceived need by focusing on something that someone of her generation and occupation understands well. I imagine that the questions of “Who is your family? Where do you come from?’ must be of particular importance to someone her age in that unsure position (Queen gone, King’s proposed downsizing of Working Royals and staff.
Think about it, don’t most of the higher echelons of the aristocracy place a high importance on who were their ancestors. Which King or Queen they helped or thwarted. Most of them can trace their ancestors back hundreds of years. I understand that their pecking order can be quite vicious.
1I wonder if she has she lost some of her status and sense of importance with the Queen’s death
Her position in that hierarchy, especially for a woman of her generation, is based on that her family lineage or that of her husband.
Since her life long friend, the Queen, had recently died, you know that she is definitely still grieving, and probably feeling lost and quite alone. So, when she feels she needs to respond to this social situation, she falls back on something she feels truely comfortable in discussing with anyone. From her point of view isn’t that “who and where” the most important thing for everyone to know about someone new to them. Just like which school and university young men from her generation attended. This helps her to instinctively place them in relationship to herself.
From the few things I’ve read about the Royal Family, it doesn’t sound like the Royal Family nor their household staff have access to good counseling.
Besides, isn’t that older generation Brits, all about that maxim of theirs to keep a stiff upper lip. With that British tendency, she likely wouldn’t share her thoughts, her grief, and life unsurities with anyone around her.
😠 Fuk Sharon Wilbourne what you saying here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jScZkRHtm_U
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When anyone asks me where I’m from I’m happy to spell out my family history as far back as I know it, it’s interesting and it’s interesting to hear other peoples genealogical stories.
I don’t get why everyone gets their hackles up.
Just answer the question, most people of colour don’t have dull backgrounds like that Anglo lot, 😂 it makes me who I am and I’m proud of it, most of us know where our grandparents and great grandparents are from, why they fled the Middle East, Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, oppressive regimes, so on and so forth, trying to cancel people for being curious is kinda stupid and being ‘clever’ and saying I’m from Croydon just shows you’re a 1 dimensional person trying to pick a fight where there isn’t one and turn everything into a culture war.
Get over it, it’s taxing and everyone has better things to do.
She’s also 83yrs old she was probably just being a dottery old bitty, not some sinister racist.
Says someone called Dimitri! Jeez!