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President Donald Trump Attorney Moves Goalposts On Defense Ahead Of Bolton Book | MSNBC
his personal “opinion” is not the constitutions OPINION! foh
the Constitution is NOT OPINION………..ITS OUR FOUNDATION OF GOV, LAW, and ORDER
If Donnie’s actions are legal why block witnesses
If I used this logic back in the with mother she would say something else
so now you agree with everyone does says Schiff and all the witnesses testimony is much opinions/ hypocrisy
WoW…🤦🏽♂️ You have to admire this guy stupidity, he is doing it on purpose..😂😂😂
Man’s a fool. Would not employ him to wash my car.
I dunno, it’s certainly not saying much, but I thought this was probably the most articulate and measured defense of Agent Oringes I’ve seen yet. Which, I would speculate is why we haven’t heard more from this dude… he doesn’t score high enough on Trump’s media-circus and or loyalty quotients.
He’s filthy rich and one of the best Lawyers in the world and you’re a troll on youtube lol. Good luck with that.
@foreigner fan who’s a troll?
@Carl Stockman That’s between you and your mirror. Good luck with that. Cheers
@foreigner fan He’s filthy rich… and he’s getting your defense and support for free… forget about luck brother, you need some self-respect… I honestly hope you’re a Russian bot farmer so you’re at least getting paid to engage in a petty dialogue with people like me who have dubious opinions and entirely too much unstructured time.
But obstruction is impeachable. Trump has blocked every bit of evidence that could paint a clear picture of his entire administration. That is not only obstruction, it is abuse of power. Executive privilege is not allowable when in the defense of criminal accusations. Trump might have gotten away with withholding, but he tried to spin it and cover it up. Those are the crimes he is guilty of.
Correct, a 1974 court ruling was that there is no execuitive privilege in cases where the execuitive branch broke the law. By not notifying Congress of holding the Ukraine aid, and going over the 45 days allowed to hold the fund, Trump broke the law and execuitive privilege doesn’t exist here. You also have court rulings that attorney client privilege doesn’t exist if the lawyer believes his client broke the law, as they also cannot willfully lie in court which would be against their duty as “officers of the court”. Trump and his defenders are pressing every law we have to prevent corruption, the problem is most of these rules were made on a belief in good faith by the defendants lawyers or the President himself. Trump has shown for decades he will lie to benefit himself, so why would he suddenly choose to tell the truth? Also the founders wrote into Federalist papers that seeking foreign interference into our elections was an impeachable offense, and George Washington also said that there is no execuitive privilege in cases of impeachment because people need to know the whole truth. Republicans have decided to turn their backs on the constitution and the founding fathers, they must pay in the next elections for betraying our country and all that it stands for.
“The outstanding negative quality of the totalitarian elite is that it never stops to think about the world as it really is and never *compares the lies with reality* .”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism 1951
The outstanding quality of our totalitarian elite is they are NOT elite; Trump is a pathologically narcissistic, functional illiterate; Rudy is a lunatic; the rest of them are cowardly sycophants whose outstanding quality is FEAR of Trump and his base of troglodytes who are also mostly functionally illiterate.
@Kevin McK Truly they are vile and incompetent and that is precisely the reason for their selection for they are not elite by the standards of accomplishment and merit, far from it, it is by appointment from “dear leader” which leads to the next quote:
“Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism 1951
@Mainely True enough, but I fear this is a different brand of totalitarianism. It’s a kind of ‘group’ rule… Oligarchy to be exact. It’s being brought about by the greed of the 1%. They’re busy buying influence, taking over State Legislatures and stocking the Courts for the right wing. When the SCOTUS ruled for the Corporation’s ‘Dark Money’ in their Citizens United decision our democracy was grievously wounded. It’s on life support now.
They are in the process of the dissolution of the State and ignorant disruptors like Trump and his base are making it easy for them by preying on our differences.
The Right Wing lunatic fringe has taken over but they are not really responsible for their success; the billionaire class put them there and now they have a tiger by the tail. This is deadly serious; deadly for democracy, the western alliance, and for America. The big winner is Putin.
It’s my opinion that green beans are terrible. Good thing opinions don’t dictate fact, like how it’s illegal to withhold congressionally allocated funds for personal gain.
Put Bolton under oath anything less will just make this trial a shame.
@Dianna Duemler Put Schiff and his so called whistleblower under oath…..let’s see the real crimes here.
Stone Men Let’s go full trumpturd stupid. Include Hillary and Obama.
@V full trumpard stupid is when you exceed ludicrous speed .
The timeline of Trump’s decision to withhold aid to Ukraine is increasingly suspicious.
The Trump administration initially told Congress it was releasing the aid to Ukraine on “February 28.” It repeated that assertion to Congress again on “May 23,” but failed to explain to lawmakers but struggled to explain — both publicly and to the lawmakers who approved the aid — exactly why the funds were withheld.
Even Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell couldn’t get a straight answer from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Mark Esper over the summer on why the aid hadn’t been dispersed yet.
But then on “September 11,” the Trump administration suddenly disbursed the money.
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By Sean Collins and Alex Ward Updated September 27, 2019, 11:47 am EDT
Robert Ray says that trump can ask for bribes.
This strains credulity past the breaking point; it is the right wing/Federalist Society argument that the President is above the law in action.
Changing you legal argument mid trial is grounds for a directed verdict…in a real trial, btw. This is bad lawyering, and in a real court this would get attorneys sanctioned. This is not a real court, and this is not a real trial, however.
I was flummoxed yesterday when Sekulow _brought up_ the Bolton manuscript as part of his own presentation, and then said that it was “inadmissible”. I dare say, once he brought it up, it was not only “admissible”, but part of the evidence!
We don’t want his “view”… It is about the law and constitution….which these Dictatorship supporters hate.
Moving goalposts is that not cheating & illegal?
‘I would like you to do us a favor though’ … ~ Donald J. Trump (Impeached December 18, 2019.)
fake news by failure human being and spread by a sheep like yourself
@Maga 4Eva3 No, real news, released by the White House:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
Just because you are too stupid to know where to look for original source documents doesn’t mean that the rest of us are. Keep believing the b.s. that flows freely from the orange blob’s mouth if you wish, but you do not get to create your own “facts”.
@Constituent A Thanks!
@R&R De nada, mi amigo.
Um, didn’t the GOA just specifically say the with holding of the aid WAS illegal?
I believe it’s GAO, but yes, their official report confirmed Trump broke Federal laws by withholding the aide to Ukraine.
The Impoundment Control Act allows 45 days of holding congressional funds, with notice to Congress about holding the funds. Trump didn’t notify anyone, went over the 45 days, and only released the funds after he released the partial transcript of the phone call to Ukraine on July 25th.
Probably didn’t hear me the first time. 🔒Lock 🏌️🏌️🏌️🏌️him🏌️🏌️ UP 👮♂️👮♀️🔒!!!
OAB the government watchdog said it was illegal to hold the aid for one second let alone until they investigated the bidens. The president is not allowed to withhold the Congressional funds that were given out for any reason
Amb Sondland at hearing Nov 20, 2019:
“I’ve said repeatedly I was presuming”
Ambassador Taylor at hearing Nov 13, 2019:
“Ukrainians did not know about the temp hold on aid at the time of the call”
Wow, and some people will actually believe this liar.