Police foil QAnon-inspired plot to overthrow German government

German officials arrested 22 suspected members and three suspected supporters of a far-right terrorist organization across the country on suspicion of plotting to overthrow the government. #CNN #News

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    1. @🍕ADR3N0CHR0M3-_-ADDICT🤪 But another person said she wasn’t in charge of security, and that was AFTER the breach happened. So which is it? You lefty drones need to get on the same page!

    2. @D. Nielsen I’m sure there’s people running around with ties to 30 different governments, but they’re dwarfed by the organic movement that was already there. What intelligence agencies do isn’t create these movements from scratch, they just try to nudge them along. Mostly it’s just thousands of people with various issues coming together through the internet to present bizarre impulses as an ideology. Really the illusion of power is probably the most powerful tool those agencies have.

  1. At least in my country the police and the law inforcement services are able to stop them BEFORE something happened. Never again.
    Well done, folks.

    1. @Belly Dancer Em Yes this makes sense. I have been focused on my own country and the indo-pacific area. It is amazing they have been able to get to many Americans, even more here think Putin should do as he pleases, by way of not wanting to Support the Ukraine or by direct language . Mostly our conservative side, this makes sense as they share the same Ideals and embrace the same laws and do not like any change, even though everything around them is changing. This is what happens when education fails.

    2. Anyone who feels the need to change our Basic Law must collect a 2/3 majority of the votes in the German Bundestag. – A seductive and violent coup with the help of (former) police officers, military officers and judges has never succeeded for long, but has brought much suffering to the world many times throughout human history.

    1. @The Shadowbanned Bandit it’s going be torn up if you support trump lol, he thinks it’s a piece of toilet paper lol.

    2. @The Shadowbanned Bandit but then we would allow Heinrich the 13th to continue to think he can run for office after being indicted by the authorities. Americans have no right to criticise the rest of us.

    3. Anyone who feels the need to change our Basic Law must collect a 2/3 majority of the votes in the German Bundestag. – A seductive and violent coup with the help of (former) police officers, military officers and judges has never succeeded for long, but has brought much suffering to the world many times throughout human history.

  2. Wow, in the US we had a LIVE TELEVISED coup attempt over 2 YEARS AGO and we’re STILL trying to get the ring leader (Donald Trump) Good on ya MY HOMELAND, Braunschweig.

    1. @Do Nothing Ooops forgot, I can do this all day with you. I speak German, French, English, Italian, Spanish, Cantonese, and Dutch. Pick your poison.

    1. @Millennial, Secular, and Auth Right
      No we don’t.
      Nobody has been “entrapped” by anyone but themselves.

  3. “Phil Godlewski, a leader in the QAnon conspiracy movement, doing a livestream from his car. Mr Godlewski pleaded guilty to corrupting a minor after allegedly having an inappropriate relationship with a 15-year-old girl.”

    1. Those “Q-people” are the REAL ‘groomers.’ And they KNOW it. They think they won’t get caught if they keep accusing someone else.

  4. Message from the US, welcome to our world. You are clearly doing better at preventing attacks than we are.

    1. @KesArt Indeed, although I’m almost invariably the subject of hectoring and insults. I apologise for pushing to it too far.

    2. @ TheDiamond2009
      Ok, first of all. I am german. I know exactly what facism is.
      Second, I have posted the a like – in your language – that explained it.
      Third – change the way you talk to others. Because, the way you do right now is unpleasant and very outrageous.
      Therefore, I will not waste any more of my time to argue with someone on the internet, who seem to be stuck in his point of view.
      I could write anything.
      But you will only use it to argue… and that’s too immature for me… Sorry

    3. @TheDiamond2009 Though a mere bystander, I still wish to thank you for your demonstration of civility, a quality rather rare in these forums.

      Cheers

    4. @chris werth I too know what fascism is. I’d define it as the political ideology that few people understand. Should we settle on that definition?

      I did see your post, I think they deleted it, or it disappeared from my view within a minute. I think it was a link to a definition in an encyclopaedia, was it not?

      Anyway, don’t take offence, squire, it’s not personal. I just think it’s important to understand the principles that are the foundations of political ideologies. We’ll agree to differ and be on our merry way.

    5. @ TheDiamond2009

      Ok, let’s try.

      WW2 was started be the German Nazis. Those guys were facists.

      But what is a fascist?

      Well, the name is based on the Fasces. Theese were special tool the Roman soldier uses to wipe the crowd off the streets, when a high ranking person was coming. You may think of it a a whip.

      About two thousand years later, the party of Benito Mussolini used the fasces as a metaphoric tool, to name their political movement: facism…aka fascism

      There are many ways to discribes facism.
      But let me just use a core explanation: facism is a political system, in which the weak masses are totally controlled by a powerful minority.
      This powerful minority uses each and every manner to lead.
      You could think of facism as a politic of the rule of the strogenst + the ends justify the meanings.

      And it is not mandatory for a fascistic regime to be right winged. Far left regimes of the past and the presents can also be fascistic.

      Nevertheless, the facistic regime of Italy, as well as the third German realm (Reich) were both politically extreme right.

      Therefore, I have called the leaders of the terroristic movement – who were incaserated, in Germany, today – to be facists.

      This CNN clip generalizes the connection between the German Reichsbürger and the American QAnon movement way too much.
      The Reichsbürger movement in Germany has not started with QAnon.
      We got these guys messing around over here for years.

      But, it got many overlaps with the American QAnon movement. It seems that both are sharing quite similar conspiracy theories.

      And would even go further, and call the attack on the capitol of January the 6th 2021 to be of a fascistic nature.

      How come?
      Well, the des delected – and therefore disempowered, because of holding just the minority of votes – president of the United States incuraged a mob to storm the capitol, to stop the enpowerment of his successor.

      So, we have a case of the powerful rules the majority + the goal justify the means.

      To give you a hand why I call the Reichsbürger of Germany facists, as well (in case you are not that familiar with current german politics), just let me give you this hint: the third REICH, REICHSbürger.
      …do you recognize any similarities?

  5. Now it has to be said that this access took place at a very early stage. The infrastructure of this group would have been far too weak to attempt a coup. However, I am glad that such people are now locked away. In the USA, Trump has been allowed to do his mischief, otherwise with the same goals, for years now without being responsible for it.

    1. That is not correct. The arrest came at a time were a lot of the member of this terrorgroup pushed hard to get it done.

    2. @Emiliano Zapata
      Bullshit very little is known of the inner concensus of this group but they were at most in the early stages of planning as it seems and they lacked all the infrastructure and manpower to accomplish anything

  6. I’d like for the US to grow a pair and put these people in prison instead of letting them stay in office spreading their hate and lies all over the world

    1. @brandonarcher6118  😂🤣 all the evidence of…. nothing.

      But we on the right are very glad that democrats have turned the US into a banana republic. With bidens approval Republicans win the next election and have no barriers when prosecuting every democrat

    2. @Brandon Archer Thanks for proving you hate the constitution, kinda ironic that you complain when trump wants to get rid of it, but you are allowed to do so.

    3. Anyone who feels the need to change our Basic Law must collect a 2/3 majority of the votes in the German Bundestag. – A seductive and violent coup with the help of (former) police officers, military officers and judges has never succeeded for long, but has brought much suffering to the world many times throughout human history.

  7. Uh huh… “They have to know they were the same thing!” I can still hear my great grandpa screaming that at the tv. Wtf is really going on?

  8. Wow….Looks like the USA could take some lessons from the German police.
    These guys were able to stop the riot on the Capital BEFORE it happened.👍👍👍👍

    1. @Peter Longprong Fully agree. The number of MAGA trolls here trying to discount this event or blame it on other factions is hilarious.

    2. @Peter Longprong What TV YOU BEEN WATCHING!! Are you getting tricked? Ask yourself are you seeing the same thing whatever team your not on is seeing? Cant you see the jews news feeds two different stories? Let me guess you havent seen the vids of the capitol police waving people in? You probably havent seen the hunter pics? WHY BECAUSE WE ALL GETTING PLAYED BY THE MSM WAKE UP. Dont believe me? SEARCH First Responders Urge 9/11 Investigation, Sept 11 2019……
      😂

    3. @Karate Kidoh wow, you‘re in deep with the crazies. Hope you wake up someday, but I don’t have high hopes for that.

    1. The U.S. is not solely to blame here. This movement has existed in Germany since the 1980s. But it only really became known in the 2000s, when one of Germany’s best-known musicians, Xavier Naidoo, publicly came up with these conspiracy theories in 2009. There are crazy people in every country. QAnon was then adopted from the USA, of course. The people who have adopted these absurd theories, however, were for the most part in the German “Reichsbürgerbewegung” anyway.

    2. Bro… it started there… older than that… see almost all genocidal governments route to glory 😂. I mean yea Trumps far right here in america is also ignorant and violent.

  9. I love how in Australia, family will call Homeland Security if anyone in their family noted to be QANONSENSE cult. They said threat to the country is also threat to the rest of their family!!

    1. Boy do I have a family member to report then 😅 as soon as this is a thing in America, lemme know

    2. It’s sick and sad anyone would consider reporting a family member to the government for their opinions. You all sound like N A Z I s

    3. So sick someone would report their own family member to the government for beliefs or opinions that exactly what the Germans do in the 40s….

  10. Similar crap that happened here… and nobody really stopped them, and they killed and injured many of our capitol’s law enforcement.

    1. It will probably be somewhere between 3 and 15 years in prison depending on the level of involvement, which is probably not that extreme by US standards but it’s pretty much one level below life sentence.

    1. It is NOT the Florida guy pulling the strings. QAnon probably is Russian. And it has been well documented that Putin is promoting far right terrorism in Europe as well as the USA.

  11. All sounds like the law enforcement agencies in Germany certainly are well organised, in this case they gathered information that was a clear threat to the government and took the appropriate actions before an attack could occur, well done. This all appears very similar to “what should of occurred” in America leading up to the Capital on January 6. Its fair to say that if the FBI would have implemented some raids on the oath keepers and proud boys establishments “prior” to the brutal attack on the Capital, and arrested these anti government far right militants that January 6 would panned out differently. Now if those efforts combined with other local officials and agencies had focused on what could happen in the lead up to Trump’s insurrection and flooded that area with enforcement officers, the January 6 story surely would be different.

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