No Protection For Trump From Cases Awaiting His Presidency’s End | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Joyce Vance, former U.S. attorney, talks about Donald Trump's legal and criminal vulnerability once he's out of office, including to cases known to be under way by New York Attorney General Latisha James and Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance. Aired on 11/13/2020.
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No Protection For Trump From Cases Awaiting His Presidency's End | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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    1. He has federal crimes too. That’s why he should’ve left office so Pence could’ve pardoned him. Now, he has to pay the piper with federal and state charges.

    2. A Presidential Pardon only applies to crimes against the United States. The Governor of a State has the authority the pardon a person for crimes that violate their States Laws.

  1. Watching Trump implode I can’t help but feel a deep sense of schaudenfreude. And I’m ok with that. It’s so satisfying.

    1. Don Shuflin, it means, taking pleasure from someone’s miss-fortune. In this case, it is not a Sin. 😊 So, go on, get your Schadenfreude on !!! He deserves it!

    2. Elvenkind , I think he meant, he doesn’t understand the word in German. Here in the states, we do not have one specific term for that sentiment. But, one might say, “ just desserts, or every dog has his day.”

    1. https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/more-than-10000-dead-people-cast-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows.html/ More than 10,000 people confirmed or suspected dead have returned their mail-in ballots to vote in Michigan, according to an analysis of the state’s Election Day data. About 9,500 voters confirmed dead through the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) are marked in the state’s mail voting database as having returned ballots. Another nearly 2,000 are 100 years old or more and aren’t listed as known living centenarians.

    1. @Joy Division
      You have made the accusations now where is the proof.
      Every single case has been thrown out and not even not allowed to proceed through the lower courts making it to the newly stacked Supreme Court.
      The hypocrisy on your side of things is unreal.
      You are more than willing to cast doubt on our entire Democracy simply you lost.
      Do you not see how damaging this is?
      No one stole an election. More people hated Trump and understand he is a total fake than the believers
      What is it you see in this guy?
      From my side , we pretty much see you as racist . He certainly doesn’t understand work
      He’s never worked a day in his life
      He is draft Dodger.
      He had not 1 but, 3 deferments from Vietnam.
      That means 3 other men possibly died unless they survived the war so he could play golf.
      Never again should we allow a Commander in Chief who dodged a draft.
      The truth will come out

    2. @hpqz hpqz
      I think they are still in denial.
      He is still money grubbing them so the pretend theft goescon.
      He can’t worry about whether or not he is destroying faith in our Democracy nor can his his supporters.
      I know some of them can count. They know there was nothing rigged.
      It simply people wanted him out sd o badly they showed up

  2. He will first ask his simps supporters for donations. “Make America GoFundMe Again” for his legal battles

    1. well all maga supporters are wealthy so they can afford it and if they can’t let them sell their homes, cars, boats, whatever just help trump.

    2. @Samantha Beasley Just like Bannon and his “Wall” fund… My mom always says “Tell me who you hang out with & I’ll tell u who u are!”

    1. @bob padok I must agree, that argument convinced me. I was sooooo wrong. I can humbly say thanks, it was an eye-opener. We finally got the most outrageous and undisputable evidence Dems rigged the entire election. UNBELIEVABLE, Trump was right since the beginning : https://youtu.be/kClthYmd0KE

    2. Australia here. Just wanted to congratulate you yanks for just electing this senile old tosser. Gave us a good chuckle, mate. Might want to keep him away from the little girls.

  3. *Too bad, MAGAlosers. Donny Fail-Fail (R – Loser) is done. Finished. Washed up, broke and going to prison soon enough.*

  4. Pardon for himself??? Why would he want TO, if he hasn’t done one thing wrong… (sarcasm) SDNY… HE’S AAAALL YOURS NOW

  5. _”No Protection For Trump From Cases Awaiting His Presidency’s End “_
    *Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.*

    1. @Keoki Ciervo yes trumps plans were to own the US presidency until he died then appointing his offsprings to office after his death. He wanted to make his daughter/wife first US woman president after him. He wanted to keep the presidency in the family and run it like a family business. That was their plan. Man did the universe serve him a blow. I love it.

    2. @Mj light well considering the IRS would go through them because that’s where his taxes are based…

      You dont think things all the way through at times dont you

    1. Just take a look at all the voter fraud being exposed concerning Joe Biden
      tinyurl.com/yx9gfrba 👈😳

    2. If he was prosecuted for just a tenth of his criminal activities, it would tie up the courts for years. He probably would never see the inside of a jail. Especially with him packing the courts with hundreds of favorable republican judges. That’s why reps have been so intent on doing nothing but packing the courts. It’s so when they get indicted, they can bribe the judge and get off themselves. They are all so corrupt they know sooner or later, it might catch up to them. Hopefully they’re right.

  6. No one should have the power to pardon themselves or family members , it’s an absolute disregard for the rule of law. You can’t be a judge in your own court case no matter what he says .

    1. Letting him be his own judge might be a very smart tactic. He’s so dumb he’d be giving himself the most beautiful, tremendous, jail sentence in the history of beautiful, tremendous, jail sentences. He has had a choke hold on America for too long. NO MERCY!

    2. In essence, then, he and his family & minions would be above the law.. He shouldn’t be able to pardon himself or them!

    1. @Kicky none of your ideas on the left are practical or even feasible why don’t you wake up and join the real world for a minute and then start thinking

    2. @Kicky and before you try to change any more elections why don’t you try holding a primary or a caucus of your own and not screw that up and cheating it that might be a thought maybe then people wouldn’t think you’re cheating in the presidential elections which you are Hammer scorecard YouTube at Junior

  7. If Trump attempts to pardon himself or his family, it would in essence would be an admission of guilt. Shameless.

    1. @Oden Moore the status of the self pardon is unclear. The Supreme Court has never ruled on that issue. I think they would rule against it. And I suspect Trump would try it if he can’t arrange for Pence to do it.
      And I’ve seen discussion that Trump’s ego might prevent him from stepping down to let Pence pardon him. Which means he might try a self pardon.
      I’ve also read speculation that he won’t pardon any members of his administration because that gives him leverage to testify against them for leniency in his own case. I’m not sure I buy that line of logic.
      In any case these are side issues. My main focus was too clear up the fact that pardons could be given before the person was even charged of a crime. And they can be given as a blank pardon for a period of time for any crimes committed during that time.

      Cheers

    2. @Mj light Wrong!

      He can be tried for obstruction of justice.

      Anyway, let’s just wait for him to pardon himself, or Pence pardons him.

      If that happens, we’ll all know if trump thinks he needs to be pardoned. Ok?

  8. Trump should be tried for the BS he’s pulling right now. He’s, basically, trying to overthrow the US Government. USA vs. Trump. The USA will prevail.

    1. @Wild Wood…. How do I figure? The Trump Org is a multi-national business. He has property in many different countries and most if not all of his and Ivanka’s merchandise are manufactured in China. If there weren’t global economic policies Trump org. Would tank

    2. @Wild Wood Wrong again fuckhead, the racist south created the kkk which is today’s Republikkklan party. Fact Bro

    3. @Wild Wood did you finish high school if you didn’t go line thst how the orange man was able to brainwash wash his base half is dummer then him

    1. @bob padok Do you know that Trump is using taxpayer money to fund his business? (600 dollar a night for a secret service agent for his stay at Mara lago; and several are needed; Mike Pence staying at a Trump hotel in ireland, 130 miles from Dublin where he had his neetings; William Barr using Trump hotels; and more).

    2. @Okkie Trooy Do you know he is not taking his wage? Do you know how many bussiness partners he lost bc he become president of US? And if US president security is not protected then you can forget about Republic…

    3. @bob padok I know he is not taking his wage. But that is peanuts in comparison of all the money he is making of the presidency.
      He complained about the golfing of Obama but golfs way more (almost every weekend and holidays) and on his expensive resorts (prices went up a lot when he became president). The commute with Airforce one, also is something like 1 million dollar.
      Of course a president has to be protected. But it is rather strange that the government has to pay Trump to be able to protect Trump. It is not only the room and the meals they have to pay Trump for but also outrageous prices for renting golfcharts. This has cost tens of millions of dollars.
      According his taxreturns he has been loosing money for years and basically paying almost no federal income taxes.
      His companies are not loosing money because of his presidency. They were all ready loosing. And if he is loosing, that means that his sons are doing a terrible job. For his inauguration he raised a lot more money than Obama, but had less activities. Where was the money spent on? One expenditure is known. All the inauguration parties were held in a Trump property. The prices were way above normal rates. But there is still a lot of money unaccounted for.
      Trump’s campaign has outstanding bills for the expenses of cities for security during the rallies.
      And there is so much more.
      To be clean, I am personally not funding his golftrips because I am European.
      However, I can’t stand corruption and ripping people of.

    4. @Okkie Trooy THen we are both Europeans on board to talk Trump….his bussiness suffer bc of his presidency, bc many former partners depart him – its political…if you check his Trump balance sheets..so that why i m saying he is sacrifacing….i fancy him bc Libstards are warmongers and as US heading toward rapid decline Libstards are more vulnerable to commit global suicide….for more explanaition visit our webpage and read our materials http://www.hogueprophecy.com

    1. He’s responsible for turning his back on the People , all the people that have suffered and died due to his Negligence. NO PARDON

  9. So true, Donald has had the shield of the Presidency, another reason he’s not anxious to leave, pending>> lawsuits, evasion of taxes, in debt, broke.. The list is endless 🤔

    1. watsisname has brought out the worst impulses in people exposed to him. Moreso in the more susceptible ones

    2. Absolutely. 😐 Truth is that they — esp the so-called evangies — like his criminal conduct. It gives them cover for their racism and ignorance.

    1. The familes who have lost over 250,000 covid/pandemic
      Americans due to his ego, will not, should not, cannot forgive or “pardon” this horrid psychopath, who cares not for this country,

    2. But he can pardon the other Reps who have been complicit with the scandals and corruption during T’s term. That’s why some are still standing up for “Daddy T” even though they know better. They are hoping he will be able to save them from going to prison in the future.

    1. Let me guess. An anonymous source stated that Trump is looking to pardon himself. There’s never an actual witness, or source who is willing to be named in any of these liberal hack job news agencies.

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