Carol Leonnig of the Washington Post explains what the new revelations from Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy could mean for the investigation into his death.
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New Details Emerge From Epstein Autopsy | All In | MSNBC
Tiny orange hand prints were found all over Epstein’s neck and buttocks.
CNN IS STILL FAKE NEWS.
Apricots, I thank you sir.
He didn’t jump off of something to strangle himself…unlikely.
@D Mack 1.that jail even without siluicide watch has a policy of no prisoner alone.
2. The only reports of him being taken off didnt even come out til after his death…
1 suicide in that jail in over 30 years so, it’s almost unheard of. They should check cameras before epstein got there and see if camera directions changed.
So, this is going to be a tad graphic, and personal, but here goes…
When I was 18 and struggling with undiagnosed bipolar and the suicide of my mom a few years earlier I attempted to hang myself. I did it from a position with my feet on the ground so I could slowly increase the pressure on the neck (as opposed to the sudden squeeze of kicking off a stool like in movies) until it disrupted the carotid artery enough to cause unconsciousness at which point I’d pass out and the pressure increase (note: many ppl who commit suicide by hanging do it from such positions and not in the execution hanging method or the TV chair-kick method, as another poster mentioned). Now most depictions of hangings show it to be relatively ‘peaceful’ and ‘fast’, but this is not the case. It take many minutes and the hypoxia from either lack of breathing or blood-flow to the brain cause severe convulsions. For me these convulsions saved my life by causing the cord I had used to break free from the ceiling before I died. I continued to convulse on the floor for I don’t know how long as the noose was still tight on my neck but slowly being loosened now by those same convulsions. I continued to flop around on the floor like that for some time as I progressively gained more consciousness and eventually enough control over my shaking arms to fully loosen and then remove the noose, but it was still quite some time of shaking, coughing, and struggling to breathe before I could actually move again, and had breathing difficulties, bruising, and neck pain quite severely for some time afterwards.
All this is to say hanging suicides are much more violent than most ppl think, and that while yes hyoid fractures are more rare they are not unheard of in such cases (I was much younger so my hyoid was significantly more soft/flexible than a 66yo). Do I know if this was the case with Epstein, no idea honestly, but this experience came to mind when I heard these details and read this thread so thought I’d share.
BTW: though I still struggle with mental health issues I’m very glad I survived and have gone on to experience the things I have since that night. If you are feeling suicidal or troubled by this post please reach out to local support groups/call centres, or visit your ER – please. Take care folks.
we need to know what happened, is just too suspicious. i have no pity for him but do wish it had happened after his victims had gotten to testify. they deserved the closure. now we need the other pedophiles from his group to be arrested.
Jay Preis your point? Right, just 💩some more on the Epstein victims. Jerk
@Mondin von Diex Jay Preis is deplorable….no empathy no compassion…a true trumpanzee
Philip Clarke a disgusting sub species
Why did Bill Barr go to visit Epstein?
No video? Meanwhile el chapo was on video 24/7. This is discrimination. El chapo should file suit.
To get Epstein’s consent and his preference of a big strong arm or a small one.
@Jasper Perrywinkle Is this what you were looking for? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-dalton-teacher.html
Citation?
So bill barr goes in to visit and hours later he dies of strangulation?…reminds me of a reporter who was chopped by some saudis !
AG BARR was the only one who could access to EPSTEINS cell….hes in charge of law enforcement and he reports to the top…AND WHOS AT THE TOP…that’s right America…THE PAEDOPHILIA PRESIDENT….DONALD DORK MAGOO.lol….his prints are on everything.
Citation needed lmao
jack n’off x i believe the story of Barr visiting him is false. I fact checked it
Man if stupid was a super power you people would be invincible.
This story keeps getting weirder and weirder
@mctielpresidente Or you could give it to Adam Sandler to create the best comedy all year starring Kevin James!
How is it weird that he might have been murdered? Weird is to think there is no foul play involved.
Hei Zuijin well said, Hei! 🚷
The CCTV footage of Epstein’s cell at the time of his death is with the CCTV footage of the Pentagon on 9/11 – conveniently not there !
Hi Arthur Smythe. That link is to footage starting with the explosion, just in time to see nothing before. Oh, and when will they release the photos the dancing I-reelis took of themselves smiling in front of the burning towers? Only have poor quality, redacted photocopies have been released, early this year, 17 years after the fact.
@arthurneddysmith Even the comments on the link you posted say they can’t spot a plane, and it looked like a missile.
Thats ok though, they have the story from the 2 guards that said they were sleeping. Problem solved. not
I feel like I’m watching a Crime Series, Thriller T.V series. Someone visits him in prison, hours later….dead. Hmm
And, of course blame the Clinton’s. Even Putin blames Hillary for his poor performance as criminal in chief. He also blames her for the young people protesting against his fake elections. They want honest elections, just like we do.
Amy O : The hyoid bone floats, only connected by cartilage. On its own, you’d be suspicious of a murder. But, they said, “broken bones,” plural. More than one broken bone, and it’s definitely murder, even if they can’t prove it. That would be conclusive enough for me
Mufnpuff Flora : Yaaawwwnnnski . . . 😴
Totally agreed, isn’t “US Under Trump” a long (too long) unbroken series?
With all the thing necessary to make this work it would appear to be a inside job.
Yes an inside job.
But not the jailers
IF this really was murder it would be practically impossible for it not to be an inside job. But with the most powerful and connected people on earth involved they will probably succeed in the cover up and we may never know the truth. or it will take a really long time before someone involved comes clean which would obviously put them in great danger as well.
Of course, inside job, paid for by the outside people.
Like I have said since I first heard, he was murdered! Plain and simple.
ABSOLUTELY
U1F441 UFE0F Paedophile or pedophile.
as soon as he’s left alone again he’ll cremate himself quickly
MSNBC, Washington Post, New York Times, CNN, ABC and all the main stream media in America are only echoing each other and not any asking questions.
How do one KNEEL down to hang yourself?
Has Ghislaine Maxwell been charged?
Where is the brother Mark Epstein?
And where are Les Wexner, George Mitchell and Alan Dershowitz?
How did Epstein make his money?
Where are the other 3 flight logs?
Where did Epstein die? In the ambulance or at the hospital?
It seems the first time Epstein was wounded in jail, he was actually attacked. Why not investigate this? Ask Epstein’s lawyers.
The media should get out in the field! RT and the British newspapers can do it, so can MSNBC and their comrades.
This is such a blatant cover up. It’s amazing how naive Americans are.
@brian gardner ~or old fart trump, who would “party” with him too… ..
You actually believe he’s dead?? We live in such a primitive world
@ensayofr
Those naive are the trump cultists. NOT the progressives.
It was a hit he knew too much about too many powerful people and he was gonna spill the BEANS
#HESNOTDEAD
Clinton
EXACTLY
Even Stevie Wonder can see this was murder!!
Simple but the best comment ever.
Don’t forget Jose Feliciano. Even he can see this was a murder.🙈
Is not a conspiracy. Its a plot. Some one’s dirty work.
It is a real conspiracy. Not a theory. That’s the difference. This is a no brainer. Epstein had knowledgeable that could destroy powerful men. After a life sentence, you know he would take down some with him.
@elijah mikle I am going to tell you Leftists something that you do not know: the term “conspiracy-theory” was coined BY THE FVKING CIA, in-order to detract from those legitimate investigators whom had proven that the “official” story of JFK was a complete fraud.
Yeah…you people are “woke”…
I don’t think Epstein’s death is cut & dry either. But a few years ago my left patella (kneecap) snapped in half as I was walking up stairs, no warning, no previous injury, just snap ! The surgeon who repaired the break said that in his 15 years, he had never seen a complete fracture, such as mine, without some kind of major ‘blunt force trauma’ to the patella – eg. car crash.
This is all sooo transparent 🙄,,,, we need to make a change
🗳🗳🗳2020
Tim Long Trump 20/20
This sort of nonsense is why victims in the USA don’t step forward.
You arent really calling murder nonsense, are you???
@C W I suggest keeping off the internet if you’re this easily offended. Have a wonderful day.
jaxamillian1
The Cunton’s had him Arkancided ! 😃👍
I really do not think that Jeffrey Epstien took his own life.
Somebody else wanted to shut him up! ❗❗
The fact is. The autopsy revealed a broken hyoid bone. Most commonly found in cases of strangulation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoid_bone_fracture
Citation
Management of Hyoid Bone Fractures: A Systematic Review
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0194599812451409
@MSc Bijles
You obviously don’t understand comments on YouTube or other formats like this:
Those commenting speak their opinions!
If you you were smart then you would no that no autopsy *facts* have been confirmed for the cause of Jeffrey Epstein.
You disagreement with an opinion shows a lack of intelligence… Big time!!
@11STARFIRE well of course I understand that. But 1) people often base their opinions on someone else’s opinion which was masquerading as a “fact” and 2) I’m an educator, so can’t help but to try and educate some people, even if it seems hopeless.
@Trent Blade Most commonly, though not exclusively.
His Death Smells like another attempt to Obstruct Justice.
Great Conspiracy theory.
it smells like Trump allowed it, because Trump was implicated with it.
Trina D : Watch them, “lose,” his hyoid bone, or some other piece of vital evidence, now? . . . It’ll be in a jar, on Trump’s desk. In the same way that Trump’s balls are in a jar on Putin’s desk
Green Machine : No one, except idiotic Trump Trolls, actually, “believes,” in the 911 Conspiracy Theories, or the Moon Landing ones. Nor do they deny that Gravity is a thing . . . Smh
*”No video cameras pointing towards his cell. All the guards were asleep.”*
LMFAO. Do they even try anymore?
Nope, like trump said, republicans are the stupidest people and guess whose name was being protected, amongst others.
No, its just repeat after me, and they do. Then their bank account is a bit richer.
Splash Attack TCG 2 guards supposedly forged on papers the times they checked on him?…WHY?
@beth robb not sure, but it could be to cover up that they simply were napping instead of doing their jobs.
Epstein got jumped before he was about to rat on his pedofile gang.