Military Leaders Push Back On Trump’s Willingness To Use Them Against Civilians | MSNBC

President Trump has referred to the military as though he could order it to fulfill his own personal will, speaking of “my generals” and “my military” and threatening to deploy them against peaceful protesters. But how does the military feel about that? Aired on 6/11/2020.
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Military Leaders Push Back On Trump's Willingness To Use Them Against Civilians | MSNBC

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  1. Adolf literally did the exact same thing that Trump is doing. He attacked anti-facist groups that opposed his fascist regime. It’s a tactic Trump got from his copy of Mein Kampf.

    More than 400 thousand Americans from our greatest generation, fought and died to defeat fascism in WW2. They were the original anti-facists.
    Semper Fi..

    1. Dr. Hodson and Dr. Busseri’s correlational study from 2012 is once again confirmed by empirical evidence:
      >>Antifa isn’t really anti-fascist.<< >>They’re anti anything they don’t agree with.<< >>Except antifa are the Nazis.<<

    2. How to prepare and serve the perfect Trump-Sandwich©
      Take two fat slices of spongy white bread, add a tremendous amount of balony with a huge dollop of Russian dressing on top and then serve it with a tiny little mushy cucumber on the side.

    3. WARNING!
      Ingesting the perfect Trump-Sandwich© will cause insane delusions, ridiculously foul language, appallingly boorish manners, abysmal ignorance, excruciating butthurt and debilitating sophophobia.

  2. I appreciate that saying no to your boss is tough, but if you comply with lawless orders to assault peaceful protesters you are complicit. When the president breaks the law anyone who follows his orders are also breaking the law. National Guard soldiers should protect citizens, not attack them. Gen. Milley put himself into the political fray by following a criminal order.

    1. @Robert Harris then they should just do all this police reforms. I mean seriously how many more dead people do politicians need to do their job. This situation is completely heartbreaking. Overseas we see you guys as one people not as black or white or natives etc. And it’s just so sad your military is used against you. I mean all this guys should be ashamed in my opinion. And obviously white lives matter too.

    2. @Robert Harris you don’t get it? It is not about white lives, because for being white was never the issue.
      The Civil War was about white folks don’t want to lose the privilege owning slaves. Now it is about blacks being treated equal and not as criminals, because of their skin color. Somehow history never changed much. ✊

    3. Robert Harris how many ways does it have to be explained before you get it. This is not about white people. White people have never had to form a movement to prove to the world that their lives matter. Why you may ask? Because white lives were/are not ever devalued by the establishment or society. White people are born into the world knowing that they are valued. White people are not continuously taught, told or shown that they are less than others. No that treatment is reserved for the brown skin folk. So stop trying to make this about white people! I know you were taught that whites are the only race that matters but the world does not revolve around you! It’s not always about you white people!

    1. The MAGA-regurgitator bot “Septembers Whispers” is presumably done with Donald John Trump as well.
      Among Donald John Trump’s subsequent misspellings and mis-speakings, “text massages”, “the oranges of the investigation”, “smocking gun”, “hamberders”, “Prince of Whales”, “global waming”, “anonamishh” and others have been compared in the media to the covfefe tweet.
      Unless it’s a totally ridiculous hypocrite of course.
      Oh, wait………….

    2. The abysmal ignorance of the insanely delusional and ridiculously foul-mouthed nationalist minority is absolutely staggering.

    3. I have posted a couple of dozen comments packed with well known and well documented facts related to the utterly corrupted career criminal Donald John Trump, but one single typo was the one and only flaw the MAGA-regurgitator bot could find to point its quavering finger at.
      I think I’m doing pretty darn good 😎

    4. It’s once again confirmed, there’s noting like a healthy doze of hard facts to shut the nationalist minority’s filthy little gobs up.
      What a pathetic bunch of sad gobshites, no wonder most of them still live in their mom’s basement and never get a chance to procreate.
      The latter being rather fortunate for mankind’s gene pool.

  3. “We realize the importance of our voices only when we are silenced.”
    — Malala Yousafzai, Pakistani activist and Nobel laureate

    1. @Charles Mcgowen I did re-read it. I was simply explaining to you, because you said you didn’t want his opinion, that mostly what you read is opinion. Kinda hard to avoid opinions. I would answer your question that, depending on the situation, a case could be made for either option you provided – in my opinion.

    2. @Eagle wolf Solitario Being a nationalist simply means America first as a philosophy. In other words, nationalist as opposed to globalist. As a US Veteran that’s where my heart is, and I believe most veterans of all ethnic backgrounds are of this persuasion. Not all, but most.

    3. @Eagle wolf Solitario Yes I agree, it is still the best country in the world. That’s why so many ppl want to immigrate to America. Dreams do still come true, and promises are still kept. My question to you about diversity was not about race. It was about ideology. You either love this Republic and it’s Constitution (which is what makes us great), or you don’t. There are ppl living in America who hate her, and want to burn her down. They would prefer socialism, or communism. If you haven’t already, read the demands of the group of “activists” currently occupying a portion of Seattle. The enemy of my country is my enemy. That includes all enemies, foreign and domestic.

    4. @Charles Mcgowen if your American no need to stick that justfifier at the end. An American would do Charles. We all want this country to be better, strive and reach its full potential for everyone under the the star and stripes. Hanging that word at the end just brings up bad taste in many peoples mouth. Just like word African American or Asian American no need to stick that label in peoples faces. Again we are all Americans despite what others label themselves, it just creates more division and strife.
      Be inclusive instead of divisive. Tell me when you served, did you not serve for the whole of America.

    5. I give him benefits, but after 3 years he knows what he’s doing. He’s not stupid. The scary part is 33 percent agree. It’s a scary world. Nothing is impossible for him. I left a civil war. My father always warned me not to get too comfortable if something was to happen in the US being a minority we are the first to get killed. My family has been through the Khmer Rouge already, that was Asian on Asian and of different ethnicity. We humans never learn. We willingly killed each other. I don’t know when humans can live in peace with each other. I know if there any way to get people to see the truth and not be blinded by hatred.

    1. @Mimsy Borogove By the way, George Floyd was a career criminal who had multiple drug and gun convictions and a profession of looting houses. He ran with a gang that pretended to work for the water company. Once they broke into a pregnant woman”s home and George held a gun to her belly as the ransacked her house looking for drugs. When Floyd was arrested, he was high on meth, had a bag of crack, and was trying to pass fake bills. Sorry, I would rather feel sympathy for the pregnant woman he almost murdered.

    1. @Jim I will drink those anti MAGA tears like champagne on election night when trump wins again. Please save them and store them in a bottle for me

    2. @N Esq *yawn* my 7 year old niece is meaner and more clever than you. Keep trying, you’re really selling yourself the deeper you dig.

    3. True. They’ll disown him as easily as they’ve disowned every “RINO” Republican who has gone against Trump in any way. It will be tragic and comedic all at once.

    4. @N Esq Why do so many trump supporters lack the balls to post under a real name ?
      Are you ALL trolls or ALL cowards ?
      Real Americans have real names .

    1. You Must Follow Jesus Christ “Yourself.”

      Don’t look for somebody else’s good relationship with the Lord to save you. Your family members can’t save you. Your parents, your aunties and uncles, your nieces and nephews, nobody can save you but you.

      You have to surrender to Jesus Christ personally in order to be saved, even from the Wrath of God through the diseases that God can send up on various lands. Listen, to what the Word of the Lord says:

      Ezekiel 14

      19“Or if I (GOD) send a horrible disease into that land and pour out My fury on it in blood, and destroy from it humans and animals, 20even though Noah, Daniel, and Job (righteous servants of God) were in it, as I live,” says the Lord God, “they would deliver neither son nor daughter; they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness.”

      God is not going to save your children because you’re living right. Your children have to live right on their own. Everybody have to serve Jesus Christ individually. We can pray for our family and encourage them to live right: We can live right before them. But nieces, nephews, cousins, aunts and uncles, brothers and sisters, parents, and everybody have to live for Jesus Christ individually.

      You can’t get to Heaven on somebody else’s lifestyle: You have to have your own righteous lifestyle before God through faith in Jesus Christ in order to make it into the Kingdom of Heaven. And even when it comes to you escaping various plagues that God can plague a land with, if that plague has purpose for Wicked people, you have to make sure you’re not a wicked person. God is not going to protect you from the plague (horrific disease, sickness, or virus) just because somebody else is living right. You have to live right. You can’t be Wicked and think your family member’s lifestyle is going to save you. It may help, but ultimately, God is going to look at you individually. That’s why Lot’s wife became a pillar of salt when she looked back. She was escaping the land. Even though Lot didn’t look back, she had to not look back individually in order not to become a pillar of salt. But she looked back and became a pillar of salt.

      Lot still escaped, and I thank God for a holy wife, a righteous wife, the blessed wife that He has blessed me with; and I thank God that, by His grace, I’m living for Him. But we still have to live for the blessed Lord individually, even though we’re husband and wife. So whoever you are out there, I want to encourage you to surrender to Jesus Christ because no one likes to see our family members not saved, our loved ones not on God’s team. So I want to encourage you family (wherever you are) even if I don’t know you (stranger, as I don’t really call anybody my friend because I can count on one hand the people I call friend, and they’re family, and GOD is my FRIEND) to surrender to Jesus Christ individually because God is going to be looking at your lifestyle when it comes to protecting you from certain diseases.

      Now, that is not to say that Holy people can’t get sick from things that are “Not” specifically targeting the wicked because we can. Nevertheless, there are certain judgments of God that are designed to punish the wicked. I’m not saying that the Coronavirus is such a disease, but don’t take any chances. It’s always better to live right anyways (particularly when it comes to being allowed into God’s glorious Kingdom of Heaven), because no one can get to Heaven being wicked. Blessed be the Name of the Lord! Amen.

      Apostle Thaddeus
      The Ministry of Pure Truth

      All glory be to God forever 🤗
      Praise Christ Jesus forever 🤗
      Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🤗Amen.

  4. Bunker Boy. The Confederate president who held ackwardly a Bible upside down, and called the repression force his SS troops.

    1. @нυмαη ƒєllα
      He held it right but somehow
      it looked “wrong”. Hard to explain, like blasphemy or something.

    2. El Cruzer55 He’s already showing his mentality, asking people who attend his Rallies, to sign a paper promising not to sue him if they get the virus after his Rally!! He is nuts, so are the folks who go to an overcrowded Rally, and no masks! Guarantee, Trump won’t wear one, he’ll be spewing out his false promises and insulting Dems…..He is not worth the risk, he is putting everyone in danger!

    3. @Tsubadai Khan Trump’s mental stage is well known but the mental stages of his supporters are seemingly worse to be so oblivious to the growing cancer.

    4. @нυмαη ƒєllα As a fellow atheist, I take it as proof there’s no such thing as an interventionist God that either the Bible, or Trump entirely, didn’t burst into flames when he held that Bible up & glared into the camera. After tear gassing & beating the churches congregation away…

  5. I’m pretty sure the general will be out of a job now, because it’s more important to show loyalty to Trump than it is to respect your country

    1. Rune – Thorne while the way you describe it doesnt “seem so bad”; regardless, i implore you to review article 88 of the UCMJ.

      i gladly would discuss this with context in mind, as long as its complete.

    2. @West House The president may say whatever he wants… with consequences, he is a public employee!! And we shall evaluate our employee by his words and his deeds. We will handle our decision of his evaluation this Nov, 2020. ICYMI… I support & defend the Constitution of these united States of America. I support the Bill of Rights of each individual and all collectively. I support the Rule of Law. *And you may judge me… by my words and my deeds.*

    3. @West House I was an officer in the United States Army, first, he’s the Joint Chief, so only people that can hold him accountable to the UCMJ is the President and Defense Secretaries, but even within Article 88 he said nothing that could be seen as contemptible about any actions but his own, he should not have been there. The military is apolitical, and while the commander in chief can and does order the military, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs should not have been there as if supporting the firing on civilian protesters. That is not the role of the military, to be used on citizens, and having the optics of a military that supports the government over the citizens is not only bad for optics, it’s unconstitutional. Even if they were activated by the president, they could only be activated against citizens with approval by the Governors of the states therein, meaning local law no longer has constraints on the public and the Governors have lost all ability to govern. The Church that Trump wanted to stand in front of was not on Federal land, but DC is special because it doesn’t have a Governor or State Constitution. The use of Federal troops in DC therefor is a gray area in law, but his role is the same, and it is not to be seen as the driving force of the military against people acting on their first amendment rights. Like I said, bad optics.

    4. @Rune – Thorne thank you for the insight I had not even considered in my assertion.
      Everybody thinks they have knowledge, very few take the time to spread knowledge.

    1. What if he wasn’t referring to the Secret Service as the SS, and instead referring to his unidentified men in swat gear?

    2. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be happy about what Trump called them but they are professional & wouldn’t respond positively or negatively to anything, unlike #45.

    1. The military has sworn a duty to defend the Constitution of the United States and true Democracy, not the sham one run by corrupt oligarchs and greedy Exploitative corporations/media companies.

      Restore Democracy Now!

    2. @Andrew Smith Helping voter registration campaigns is probably everybody’s best bet. Election tampering is already in full swing by Ttump cronies.

    3. Many Racist Cops Description:

      Cowards in school, learned a few wrestling moves, and became overly eager to use those moves on people their racist parents/others taught them to hate.

      God Knows it All

      History Lesson

      📃1619

      The first 19 or so Africans to reach the British colonies arrived in Point Comfort, Virginia, near Jamestown, in 1619, brought by British privateers who had seized them from a captured Portuguese slave ship. Slaves were usually baptized in Africa before embarking.

      📖From the Lord’s Word:

      The LORD said to him, “Your descendants will be strangers in a foreign land; they will be slaves there and will be treated cruelly for four hundred years. 14 But I will punish the nation that enslaves them, and when they leave that foreign land, they will take great wealth with them. (Genesis 15:14-14)

      Simple Mathematics ➕➖✖

      2019 – (minus) 1619 = 400

      1619 – (through to) 2019 = 400 years

      Deeper Thinking 🤔 with God’s Wisdom 🙏🏽

      10 is said to be the number of deliverance
      10 ×2 = 20

      The year now is 2020

      20×20 = 400

      God sent great Plagues on the land of Egypt to convince them to let His people (whom they cruelly enslaved and oppressed) Go.

      Moses was God’s prophet on earth during that that time, declaring God’s Word (being assisted by his brother Aaron).

      America is now experiencing God’s wrath like never before (a deadly disease, high unemployment rate, cities being destroyed through protests, and the racist rule is crumbling).

      A prideful Pharoah was in charge in the land of Egypt during that time. He would seemingly get ready to let God’s people go but then reharden his heart.

      Trump (known for pride) is in charge in America in 2020. He would seemingly be ready to show mercy to those called African American and abandon his racist ways and rhetoric but then reharden his heart.

      What’s coming next?

      God Knows!

      One thing I know for sure is that Jesus Christ shall soon return. Eternal riches in glory is prepared for us who follow Jesus Christ until the end.

      Make sure you’re on the Lord’s Side.

      Jesus Christ loves you. Call on His Name and be saved today.
      The blessed Lord died for you and rose again and He’s coming back again.
      Amen.

      “History merely repeats itself. It has all been done before. There’s nothing new under the sun.” Ecc 1:9

      Look to the Heavens and thank the blessed Lord that we all can say “I Matter to God.”

      Apostle Thaddeus
      The Ministry of Pure Truth

      All glory be to God forever 🤗
      Praise Christ Jesus forever 🤗
      Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🤗 Amen.

      Learn more here ⤵️

      https://www.amazon.com/I-Matter-GOD-Thaddeus-Beaulieu-ebook/dp/B01KS3PIIM/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?dchild=1&qid=1592001001&refinements=p_27%3AThaddeus+Beaulieu&s=digital-text&sr=1-12&text=Thaddeus+Beaulieu

    4. One by Land, Two if by Sea Run if by Air
      Better make sure the rigged election doesn’t happen this time ! 👍🏻🗳 🗽

  6. He tried to praise the Secret Service while calling them “SS”. I am becoming more and more convinced that when Bill Maher called him “the love child of a human female and an orange-haired orangutan male” he was being really unfair to the orangutan.

    1. It will fortunately be over soon, one way or the other.
      Apricot Pol Pot is about to be arrested, prosecuted and incarcerated within a foreseable future.
      Unless a blood clot takes care of the gluttonous lardarse first that is.
      Not all heroes wear capes 🦸‍♂️

    2. Speaking of the gluttonous lardarse, what is Donald John Trump’s favorite seafood?

      Donald John Trump’s favorite seafood is of course the famous Ukrainian national dish Squid pro Quo 🎃 🍴 🦑

    1. Blackface

      To further reveal how the “black” race label is used by racists (who labeled themselves with the pure, clean, and innocent “White” label) to scrutinize, criticize, and antagonize those whom they gave the label to, we can simply look at how racists are known to use the disrespectful practice of what is called  “Blackface.” Can you imagine how less of a putdown it would be if they actually used our true colors (Brown face, Tan Face). Well, since most racists actually sunbath to become tan in color, that practice would not make sense. Even well known persons today who have been labeled “white” (which no person is) are known to artificially enhance their color to appear Brown (showing that brown and tan are most definitely beautiful colors in the eyes of even non-brown skin persons).

      So the trick of racists (which their victims sadly fell for) is to label their victims with a derogatory label, get their victims to accept that derogatory label, and then tease their victims for having the false label which they (the oppressors) placed on them. This is all included in the now-critized “systematic or systemic racism.”

      Fight Back

      The victims of the racists must fight back by rejecting and refusing to accept the false and derogatory label that racists put on them.
      Without realizing the history of the label or just not putting it all together, many oppressed brown and tan skin people simply accepted the label and used/use it in accordance with protests against racism (i.e. Black Power ✊🏽✊🏾✊🏿 and now the widely used Black Lives Matter). But it’s time to still show that we have Power (from God) and that we Matter (to God, most importantly), but to also give their evil title back, and say “Our colors are brown and tan, Not ‘Black.'”

      Jesus Christ loves you.  Call on His Name and be saved today.
      The blessed Lord died for you and rose again and He’s coming back again.
      Amen.

      Apostle Thaddeus
      The Ministry of Pure Truth

      All glory be to God forever 🤗
      Praise Christ Jesus forever 🤗
      Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🤗 Amen.

      Learn more here ⤵️

      https://www.amazon.com/I-Matter-GOD-Thaddeus-Beaulieu-ebook/dp/B01KS3PIIM/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?dchild=1&qid=1591243619&refinements=p_27%3AThaddeus+Beaulieu&s=digital-text&sr=1-12&text=Thaddeus+Beaulieu

    1. Speaking of cucumbers, here’s how to prepare and serve the perfect Trump-Sandwich©
      Take two extra fat slices of spongy white bread, add a tremendous load of balony with a huge dollop of Russian dressing on top, then serve it with a tiny little crooked cucumber on the side.

    2. Warning: Ingesting the perfect Trump-Sandwich© will cause insane delusions, ridiculously foul language, appallingly boorish manners, abysmal ignorance and debilitating sophophobia.

    3. Trump is trying to brain wash Americans into be leaving dictatorship and change the way of thinking . Trump actually a draft dodger during the Viet Nam war he faked an injury that kept him out of going to serve . ( Doctumented ) Trump thinks he runs the military and is above the law and tried turning are military against the American people . He says that 99 % of law enforcement does the job they took an oath to . wrong . In the police force 28% are bad cops . in some cities even more are bad cops . More blacks are herrased by cops than white . Mr. Trump your wrong again . Most foreign countries label Trump as the WORST American President as most Americans do

    4. If Floyd was white, we wouldn’t be here…. Every person involved in the riots and protests are charlatans,
      liars and racists……………………………

      If Floyd was white, nobody would’ve said a damned thing……
      Change my mind……

    1. He’s a nut plain and simple. The white has become a lunatic asylum. One flew east one west one flew over the cuckoo’s nest and landed in the white house.

    2. What is Racism Really?

      Racism is just one of the many categories that God has blessed me and sent me to speak to and concerning throughout my ministry, and by His grace, I have been addressing the issue for many years. Racism is simply a nicer term for what amounts to “hatred,” which is simply murder. Yes, like abortion is a nicer term for baby murder, racism is a nicer term for “People hating you or thinking lesser of you because of the way God made you.” And as I stated before, by the grace of God and to His glory, when people hate you because of the way God made you, that person’s problem is really with God, it’s not with you because you had nothing to do with the way God made you, and there’s nothing wrong with the way God made you, it’s just that they have been blinded by the devil and cannot appreciate all of the creativity of the Blessed Lord.

      In my blessed new book to come (God willing), entitled, “The Beauty of Colors: Appreciating the Creativity of the Creator,” you’ll learn (God permitting) how like in a beautiful bouquet of flowers, you can see various colors in that same bouquet, and it would be ridiculous for one flower to say to another flower “I don’t want you in the bouquet because of your color” because all of the flowers together make the bouquet beautiful, it is also quite ridiculous for one group of people in the human race to say to another group of people in the human race, “I don’t like you because of your color” because all the colors together is a part of the design of the Creator in beautifying the human race.

      Thus, it’s important to understand that it is the sin nature of humans (because of the fall of mankind) which has caused humans to operate in ways that are out of order. It’s like a malfunction that happens in a mechanical object like a robot: It starts going crazy and it starts tearing up things (just doing things that it was not designed to do). That’s how racism is in humans because humans are out of sync with God, and when you’re out of sync with God because of your sin nature, you will behave in Ridiculous Ways contrary to the design of the Creator.

      That’s why it’s important that you become born of the Spirit of God and submit your life and your heart to Jesus Christ, so that you can behave in ways which are in-sync with God’s character. God doesn’t hate the colors of His own beautiful creation that He created. So you are out of sync with God’s character when you’re walking in the sin hatred manifested in racism. Remember:

      Racism = Hatred = Murder ⤵️
      Eternal damnation 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

      Search Your Heart search and search your mind, and be honest with yourself: Ask God now to deliver you from racism if you’re walking in that sin and from all of your sins. Remember, God loves you. Jesus Christ died for you and rose again, and He’s coming back again. Now is the time to surrender your life to Christ, so that you can be ready when the blessing Lord returns. Repent of your sins and be baptized in His Name as God commands, and ask God for the gift of the blessed Holy Spirit so that you can be born again and live your life in-sync with God. Amen.

      Apostle Thaddeus
      The Ministry of Pure Truth

      All glory be to God forever 🤗
      Praise Christ Jesus forever 🤗
      Hallelujah Holy Spirit forever 🤗 Amen.

      Learn more here ⤵️

      https://www.amazon.com/I-Matter-GOD-Thaddeus-Beaulieu-ebook/dp/B01KS3PIIM/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?dchild=1&qid=1591555742&refinements=p_27%3AThaddeus+Beaulieu&s=digital-text&sr=1-12&text=Thaddeus+Beaulieu

  7. The intentional use of the “S.S” acronym for the Secret Service is one of the most insanely blatant things to me. This man is doing everything he can to virtue signal for racism.

    1. And the fact that he feigns innocence about the racist things he says is just a double down on the insult.

    2. It’s certainly hard to deny this, although we must remember that Trump is a profound moron who says and does really stupid things that are not racist as well. He might really have been so stupid as to use that abbreviation without a thought about what else it has stood for. He’s a fuckwit who panders to white racists either way, especially with his ridiculous stance on Confederate symbols and names still being used, but his “S.S.” might very well have just been him being as stupid as he appears.

  8. Trump with a book: “…….what the heck is this thing? What am I supposed to do with it? Covfefe!”

    1. Immature, narcissistic autocrats love surrounding themselves with the military and playing tough guy. Just look at his North Korean counterpart! They’re absolutely two of a kind. I think that’s why the dotard “fell in love” with his “Little Rocket Man.”

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