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Media, Politics Experts Slam Defense’s Portrayal of George Floyd in Derek Chauvin Trial | MSNBC

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  1. Love seeing Angela and Roland on panel, they are some of the GOOD TROUBLEMAKERS!
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    1. Latinx are impacted by police violence and victimized by “the system” all the time, but we do get the media attention, perhaps because we are too quiet or not loud enough in our demands for justice. Check out the stats for police shootings of latinos in Kern County, California. The media seems informed on issues of the East coast and the South, but often know very little of what is going in in the West (or Southwest). We too need allies in our struggles.

    1. @Andre Desrosiers Would you be OK with me giving you a George Floyd Strength dose of Fentanyl? Answering this question will let me understand your viewpoint better.

    2. @Andre Desrosiers It is a very relevant question. Would you ever put that quantity of Fentanyl in your body? What do you think the outcome would be?

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  2. It took less than and under one minute to come up that! It should work! According to the calculation!

  3. Being a critical care RN all I do is cry watching this trial. When he was crying for his mother. Many patients do this before they die.

    1. The woman that called herself his girlfriend and fellow Junkie said that she was listed as “Momma” on his cell phone. He called out for her. Since you are a nurse, what do you say about 11 nanograms per mL? I’d like to hear from someone with experience.

    2. @Kate Moon some idiots say that 11 nanograms isn’t that high but they’re just thinking about Fentanyl George Floyd had a speedball which is not only fentanyl but methamphetamine.
      The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

      FENTENAYL FLOYD- 11NG OF ILLEGAL FENTENAYL.
      METHAMPHETAMINE- 19NG.

      AKA a SPEEDBALL.

      Respiratory failure is particularly likely with speedballs because the
      effects of stimulants wear off far more quickly than the effects of
      opioids.
       For example, fatal slowing of the breathing can occur when the
      stimulating cocaine wears off and the full effects of the heroin are
      felt on their own.

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    3. @Jo Sm I can’t wait to see that video. I wonder if it is on YouTube. Floyd freaking out again. Screaming, claiming he is claustrophobic and using some funny slang like, “You are doing me wrong, officer”. And of course, “Hooping” which is the vile Junky practice of putting drugs up your butthole like prisoners do. I can’t wait for the Floyd people to make an excuse for that.

  4. Defense: “We’d like to call our first witness. We call our medical expert, Dr Pawsome.”
    Court: “That’s just a dog in a lab coat.”
    Defense: “Uh, we still get paid if Chauvin loses right?”
    Court: 😅😂🤣

    1. The estimated lethal dose of fentanyl in humans is 2 mg. The recommended serum concentration for analgesia is 1–2 ng/ml and for anaesthesia it is 10–20 ng/ml. Blood concentrations of approximately 7 ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved.

      FENTENAYL FLOYD- 11NG OF ILLEGAL FENTENAYL.
      METHAMPHETAMINE- 19NG.

      AKA a SPEEDBALL.

      Respiratory failure is particularly likely with speedballs because the
      effects of stimulants wear off far more quickly than the effects of
      opioids.
       For example, fatal slowing of the breathing can occur when the
      stimulating cocaine wears off and the full effects of the heroin are
      felt on their own.

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  5. Derek Chauvin is done, no matter what the verdict is. If Floyd did O.D., Chauvin should have been helping Floyd not putting a knee on his neck.

    1. That is why he will most likely be guilty of manslaughter instead of murder. Floyd was experiencing a medical emergency (read the Hennepin autopsy: he had severe heart issues) and it was neglectful for him to do what he did. I expect the defense to bring this up.

    2. @Lisette Lehner I want to summarize floyd’s cause of death .

      george floyd died because when he took the fentanyl in such large quantity 11 nanograms per ml this had the effect of making the breathing regulatory centers in his brain slow his breathing. thats why he started yelling i cant breathe early on, one minute before chauvins knee, the drug was taking effect. now when this happened the heart muscle began to be deprived of oxygen which it needs to have energy to pump. the effect of this is called cardiac arrest which means the heart stops. then he passed out the muscle cells strated dying and thus he could not be revived. in short he died of fentanyl overdose. the knee did not contribute as the autopsy would have shown that and baker (the coroner) specifically states no dammage even on deeper muscle tissue upon dissection. it was not a stress induced classic coronary occlusion type heart attack but was caused by the fentanyl shutting down his breathing centers. i disagree with baker on the homicide ruling as i feel floyd would have died regardless of being restrained as he had 3 times the average OD amount in his blood. i am a medical expert from trained at brown university medical school and this is in fact the cause of death regardless of what else you hear, this is not that complicated a case. if the officers had started compressions he might have been saved but that is not murder at best the only charge i could reasonably see would be failure to render aid and i am not even sure that is a criminal charge but rather an administrative charge and they had called EMT so not sure they were legally or under the precepts of their job required to do chest compressions or other medical intervention. thank you for reading if you took the time.

  6. Goofing around here in the kitchen ….with a friend’s gift of pasta riffola cheese 🧀 shells with her favorite tomato sauce and bagged salad mix with Cesar dressing! And my chocolate pudding for dessert! Yup! Listening to the news here on your show, Tiffany Cross of MSNBC! (It’s not easy with three people involved in this Minneapolis police brutality case. ) It’s not easy to listen to in the week-long testimonies. It’s just historical in the news! Historical… in that police supervisors’ testimony was not favoring Derek Chavin’s past behaviors! (His brute force was lethal on anyone’s neck for almost 10 minutes! ) It’s not easy to do imagine this deadly force of a tall brutal force of a former police officer! It’s gonna take the jury a while to deliver a verdict. (Or not really! ) If …you see what we are seeing this week! (I checked with the websites available of the tourist information! I have never seen anything like this! ) My mom was from Chicago, Illinois! It’s not a beautiful place! She grew up in Rogers Park regions during WW2!! But… the Minneapolis area is stunningly beautiful! Fishing or sailing, swimming or camping out would be my vacation activities! It’s hard to say… if you aren’t a resident there in older neighborhoods! (It’s drugs and black markets, apparently for some reasons! ) It’s heartbreaking to see this place as Floyd’s life progressed into a famous murder victim! Holy smokes.

  7. Paola Ramos someone else who definitely needs her own show. She heard she listened with compassion and spoke truth. ❤you all 🤛🏽

  8. This is so so sad – and it is so so terribly and unnecessarily brutal. I am heartbroken watching it. Sending love to all who are hurting, from us in New Zealand. I’m in tears here 🙏🏽❤️

    1. @Tessmage Tessera WE were not there and in the heat of the moment. We can not place ourselves in the mind of Officer Chauvin. If George wasn’t committing a felony and just doing his drugs this incident would have never happened. That said George was the main reason he is a dead thug!

    2. @Tessmage Tessera I never said such a thing or implied it. I’m pretending to be a lawyer and asking you a probative question that will make you examine your own beliefs. Would you want me to give you a George Floyd Strength dose of Fentanyl and meth, aka Speedball? Don’t answer in this thread. Just have a cup of coffee and mull over it.

    3. @Kate Moon The same amount of fentanyl won’t have the same reaction in everyone. Chronic users have a much higher tolerance. Now, mull THAT over a cup of coffee. 🙄

    4. @CShield It says 11 nanograms per mL and 3 nanograms per mL is the lethal dose. It does say cardiac arrest, which means heart stoppage, so apparently he doesn’t know how to connect the dots. Basically it says, “Heart attack complicating law enforcement subdual.” I don’t get why he wrote anything about law enforcement when all he was supposed to go by was a body. It isn’t even correct grammar and has confused everyone. He didn’t have access to all the bodycams, which tell the whole story. If someone got shot, he should say, “evidence of a projectile was found”, not look at a video and say “person “x” shot him”. I would like to see this guy on the stand. Do coroners have their own grammar? It makes it sound like the heart attack made it harder to subdue him. “Your loud stereo is complicating me doing my homework”. If you can explain it better, please do. 30 people got killed in riots over George Floyd, so he should be more clear whether they died for justice or a dead Junky that overdosed.

    5. @Kate Moon Your claim of people killed in riots is unsubstantiated and too broad to be considered factual. His cardiopulmonary arrest was due to neck compression.

      “Two autopsies were completed after Floyd died in May 2020, following what video footage shows was roughly nine minutes spent pinned under Chauvin’s knee. The two reports found different causes of death, but neither ruled that Floyd died because of an overdose.

      An independent autopsy ordered by Floyd’s family ruled Floyd’s death a homicide. The two doctors who conducted the autopsy concluded that Floyd died of asphyxiation, or suffocation.

      The Hennepin County medical examiner’s office also ruled that Floyd died in a homicide. But it said the cause of his death was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law-enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression,” which occurred while Floyd was being “restrained.””

  9. Nice to see Angela Rye on MSNBC because I am so used to seeing her on CNN. Also, nice to see Roland on here because I watch his show.

  10. Derek Chauvin should get at least 25 years in open population of prison time after he is found guilty for killing George Floyd. . .

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