Mara Gay: Warren Was Running In The Shadow Of Hillary Clinton’s Loss | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

New York Times Editorial Board member Mara Gay talks about Elizabeth Warren withdrawing from the presidential campaign and what it means for women across America. Aired on 3/5/2020.
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Mara Gay: Warren Was Running In The Shadow Of Hillary Clinton's Loss | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

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  1. And here come the Democrat excuses.. Blah! Blah! Blah!… Since your own constituents didn’t vote for her, does that mean that the Democratic voters are all sexist?.. That’s misguided logic that you’re trying to enforce..

  2. Her mistake was pivoting her campaign from real issues that matter to voters (stopping Wall Street greed, etc.) to “girl power”, and then trying to undermine Bernie on Medicare for All. She was obviously undermined by her staff of former Hillary and Kamala Harris advisors. Sad!

    1. I don’t know what’s obvious other than it’s common for candidates to be reaching for solutions and advice when things aren’t going well. Have a look at Susan Collins of Maine and how she seems to be flip-flopping around as she tries staying in the middle of the road until crunch time.

      They all do it, and it’s a shame, but remember that there are a lot of people giving them advice. The entire process of running for office must be a dizzying experience, and at times, leaning on the advice from someone else must be tempting if for no other reason than you’re so exhausted that you can’t think straight.

      But, I think if any candidate would stick to their core principals, and remain faithful to their causes and beliefs instead of following what’s trending at the moment, both they, and we, would be better off. I don’t want a phony person put in office, I want the one I was attracted to in the first place.

    2. @David Smith – This WHOLE thing is a mask, for the REAL problem. (Once we fix the below, REAL democracy is possible).

      *WHY WE ARE A FLAWED DEMOCRACY*
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Democracy_Index_by_country_2019

      *The Electoral College* https://youtu.be/7wC42HgLA4k
      *Solutions:* Completely remove, or National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

      *Plurality Voting* https://youtu.be/7mYPACssLbI
      *Solution:* Approval Voting https://youtu.be/db6Syys2fmE

      *Representation Of Our Votes*
      NO ONE should represent our vote. No delegate, elector, (and their “back room deals”). No coin toss, deck of cards, etc.
      *Solution:* Simply remove them. Let our actual votes represent us.

      *The Senate* https://www.gq.com/story/the-case-for-abolishing-the-senate
      The Senate represents land, not people. They were meant to be the objective, non-partisan branch of our government
      *Solution:* We can not remove the Senate, but we can reduce its power, and structure.

    1. @Spartan Cover + IM SURE WARREN POOR PRIMARY RESULTS HAD NOTHING TO DO W/HER FANTASICAL “PLANS FOR THAT” !! HER MOST BRILLIANT WAS USING A RECENT “HIM-HER 9yo TR@NNY” SHE JUST MET TO INTERVIEW,VET , & APPROVE/DENY ALL HER CABINET CHOICES? That was a perfectly rational , sane, genius level suggestion for all new Presidents!

  3. I don’t get this false narrative she lost because she is a woman. She lost because she is a pathological liar. She stole an opportunity from a real Native American by lying about being a Cherokee, she lied about her dad being a janitor, she lied about M4A, she lied about taking money from SuperPacs, she lied about being fired for being pregnant, she lied about her kids going to private school, she lied to her constituents about serving her full term when she was re-elected in 2018. Good Riddance

    1. Speaking of losers…It looks like Bernie will be a TWO-TIME loser, attempting to be POTUS.
      The first time, Hillary essentially suppressed others from running, clearing the field for THE BOTH OF THEM.
      The second time, many people ran, and STILL…Bernie is NOT resonating with the American people.
      *TAKE THE HINT*

    2. @Zeno of Citium Do you use a crystal ball, or tarot cards for making your predictions? With only two viable candidates left wouldn’t be easier for you to just flip a coin?

      BTW, there are enough Russian trolls in YouTube, why don’t you go waste your time in some other form of social media?

    3. @Zeno of Citium I’ve seen it. Anything can happen between now and election day. If Biden and his son are somehow indicted, or if he has a heart attack, that could change things.

    4. @Dennis Rod I’m a democrat who comes from the same marginalized community Warren stole from. She was a Republican not too long ago and is a constant liar. If you want to vote for her why not vote for Trump, they lie at the same pace, as someone who has Mexican and Native blood she hurt my community twice and she is a pathological liar who can’t be trusted who just so happens to be a woman. You’re acting like a cult member homie

  4. Media: **silences Tulsi**
    Also Media: Let’s make a segment about how there’s no women President.

    Reminds me of the “Who killed Hannibal?” meme, where Eric Andre shoots several bullets at Hannibal Buress, then turns to the camera and asks “Who killed Hannibal?”

    1. I actually didn’t know she said she was a woman of color. That is really a stupid thing to claim. Even if she had a little American Indian, that wouldn’t make her a woman of color. Thanks for letting me know that. That was manipulative on her part.

    2. @Thor Groot SweetRabbit The real problem is that she claimed to be a ‘ woman of color’ when she was in college. She was using race to help her get ahead.

    3. @Edward Wilson I’m independent no party affiliations, if by you people you mean people offended by her antics then yes I’m one of those people

  5. Come on.

    She was doing well before she started listening to former Kamala Harris consultants and flip flopped on universal healthcare.

    Then came the bs Bernie sexism accusation. Had she stayed the course she could have been the progressive stand bearer.

    1. No, but there is a clear and sharp contrast in message and focus after Kamala consultants joined her team. I haven’t heard her mention her 2 cent tax on ever dollar in a very long time.

    1. Angelo 23 I mean there is a clear pattern !! Or are we going to continue to deny that this country has a serious issue of sexism?? I mean maybe that’s why we’re never going to fix it!

    2. When was the last time you heard Trump say he was wrong, it was all his fault, he made a mistake?

    1. @Aaron If a Republican woman running for President had said the same thing about Indian ancestry no one would have made a big deal out of it. I am sure Donald Trump isn’t smart enough to have heard about ‘pocohontus syndrome’.

    2. It’s not about hurting feelings. If you live your life bullying people, how do you hold down a job. That’s why companies have HR departments to keep the company from having a hostile work environment.

    3. @Aaron I heard she claimed to be a ‘ woman of color’. when she was in Law School which is offensive and taking advantage of race to get ahead. I think this issue should be laid to rest. Warren is out , so it’s time to get bsack to Trump’s 4,000 lies.

    4. @Jake Roberts hahaha. My feelings aren’t hurt about what was said about Warren. A little kid would say the stuff that Trump says. It’s infantile. She’s out now anyway.

  6. We don’t need a woman in the Whitehouse. We need someone who will do a good job. Gender doesn’t mean anything.

    1. @thewirah1 She was a garbage candidate. If she was a man she would have been out of the running back in Beto days. She lost the female vote in her own state!

    2. @Dylon Jackson imo your metaphor is stupid, because all of her supporters couldnt see it. I like my metaphor more, since even a blindman could not blame his lack of sight on not seeing the phony, because all you need is to listen to her. If you are deaf blind and dumb, THEN you have a good excuse.

  7. Had the Democrats thought of supporting woman that arent completely fake, lying train wrecks like Clinton and Warren?

  8. Elizabeth Warren lost her own state. She didn’t even come in 2nd. place in any primary I don’t think.

    1. She should have drank more beers on social media to try and look cool and down to earth 😬

    2. She didn’t just lose, she lost to creepy Joe Biden. The guy who used his position to protect his son from investigation.
      I’m embarrassed to have ever been a Dem voter.

  9. They played the “because she’s a woman” Card with Hillary and now it’s Hillary’s fault she’s losing. Perhaps the Democrats need to stop bringing the weakest possible candidates into the race, man or woman.

    1. @Matthew Sawyer Hillary would do a better job? Well we know you are to stupid for political descussion.

    2. Democrats don’t “bring” anyone, any more than Republicans do. Just imagine running for president yourself. First, who would even _WANT_ the job?

      Think of what it takes mentally and physically, and what it does not only to your own life, but to the lives of your friends and family, and the people you work with. You need to find someone will raise their hand, step forward, and agree to take on that monstrous burden and responsibility of just campaigning.

      And later, if you’re lucky (or unlucky) you might get the job. And like someone said recently, the 15 round bout you expected has just turned into 30 rounds.

    1. Yeah, it’s like wanting to be the first black person to seat at the front of the bus. People don’t like it when you don’t stay in your lane.

    2. She lost because she went wild for the transgender tiny population. A 9 year old to pick her education cabinet. She was out to lunch. Im an American woman too. But she didnt say amything to me. Also, she lies about stupid stuff.

    3. It’s 2020. We’ve had 45 male presidents and zero female presidents.

      It’s obviously going to be a thing people notice about her as a candidate 😂

      You can’t pretend like it’s not a huge factor

  10. When you run a campaign that is exclusively feminist, you lose half of potential voters.

  11. Hillary lost because everyone hates her.
    Warren lost because she’s a proven liar/extremist.
    We don’t have a problem with ALL women. it’s THESE women.

    1. You’re half right and half wrong. We expect women to be feminine, while at the same time, we expect the president to be macho.

      If Hillary or Warren had talked about grabbing men by the crotch, if they had bragged about how many people we’d killed by bombing their villages, if they’d have referred to Little Rocket man and provoked North Korea and sided with Putin and against their own 16 Intelligence agencies and the DNI at every turn, no one would be giggling and calling them the greatest leader of all time.

      In America, people see the president as Rambo Ronnie Reagan saying things like “Make my day,” and not “We have to all get along.” That’s just a fact, and I don’t see any way around it.

    1. Nope. Biden, Sanders, and Trumpf have told more/bigger lies. Her issue was that she was a woman.

    2. Every white family I’ve ever met has a mythical Native great-great grandmother. And it was a freaking recipe book. Why would she assume her family story was a lie when submitting a freaking family recipe? C’mon.

    3. @Malvakai P what do you think people are upset about more, a recipe or her trying to score diversity points when applying for Harvard and then using that lie for her presidential run before she got exposed by her own DNA test? Come on now

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