Man escapes feared Russian agency, reveals what Russian spies are saying

CNN's Melissa Bell speaks with two defectors from the FSB, Russia's federal security service, and reports on the danger they now face for speaking out against Vladimir Putin. #CNN #News

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  1. “An appeaser is someone who feeds 🐊🐊🐊crocodiles 🐊🐊🐊hoping to be the last to be eaten.”

    Winston Churchill

    1. America is ruled by an elite of PSYCHOPATHS. This is the opinion of the Guild of Russian Psychologists.

    2. dude that quote doesnt even relate to the video. why do people keep spamming churchill quotes on youtube? thats such a silly thing to do.

    3. @Colonel Midi Churchill was a great man. His words have meaning. Nobody with intelligence, education and ssophistication have no problem with a genuine Churchill quote.

  2. “Back in the day” … during the Cold War before high bypass jet engines allowed airliners to fly transAtlantic without a refueling stop, every trans Atlantic flight landed in Gander Newfoundland to re-fuel. Literally hundreds of Soviets and Eastern Europeans defected there (including some famous ballet dancers) and an efficient system for dealing with refugees was set up in Gander by the Canadian government to process them from defection onwards.

    1. @Piccalilli Pit And there are millions of American’s longing for the ‘good old days’ when everyone had ‘family values’ and ‘pulled themselves up by their bootstraps’. It doesn’t make those millions any less wrong in believing something that was never quite what they thought it was.

    2. @Scurra – well that’s just flat-out dumb isnt it. For THOSE people is it was the good old days. But being capitalist America that applied to 40% of the population. Under the “communism” the good old days applied to 80% which is why 75% of people over 65 voted for the “communist” party in the last election.

      Those millions, in either situation, were not “wrong” about their lived experience. I dont want to live under Stalin’s communism OR Eisenhower’s America, my values are radically different to both of them. But that does not make the people who remember it fondly “wrong”

    3. @Piccalilli Pit_’well that’s just flat-out dumb isnt it’_ No, it’s just the cold honest truth. Their fantasy of barely remembered communism isn’t any more real than the fantasy of the ‘MAGA’ half-wits. Old people are notoriously unreliable when critically analyzing their past.

      _’But that does not make the people who remember it fondly “wrong”‘_ Yes, it does. Both of those timeframes were rife with injustices across the board, and to remember those fondly is just a deluded(and dangerous) fantasy. What you’re suggesting is just a variation of the moronic ‘but at least the trains were on time’ defenses of Mussolini(which wasn’t even true).

    4. @Scurra – Well IM the author on psychology and the collapse of civilisation that has spent 12 years collecting people’s stories of life under communism for a book and you are a shouty rando on the internet…

      So who should we trust here???

      OK – So lets say you – shouty person – could buy a house for $25,000, have a job for life that paid you $75,000 index-linked, a good union and a pension that paid you 75% of your final salary, your university cost you $5,000, great medical insurance and you had a new car you bought cash every 2 years and only one of you had to work so the other person could look after your kids – ARE YOU TELLING ME that this would be a bad life???

      cos THAT is what these people are remembering, you can accuse them of not remembering the bad stuff and sure they gloss over that. But what they are NOT misremembering is that THEIR LIVES WERE VASTLY BETTER TO YOUR LIFE.

      And that is why you are an angry shouty person on the internet.

      You are not angry cos they are misrepresenting the past – you are angry they are RIGHT in many ways – your life is sh!t working an uber style contract and no hope of buying a house.

      My friend in America started as an intern at a company 33 years ago. She is now on $225k, she HAS a 75% pension and she just downsized her house that she bought 30 years ago for $1.1 million – now you cant hate her cos she is massively left wing and goes out every winter handing out coats and gloves she has bought to every homeless person in her city.

      YOU are angry cos that life is not available to you.

      YOU want them to be misremembering – cos that just means they are id!ots and you can write them off and that makes YOU feel better about how you have been totally and utterly shafted by neoliberalism in America.

    1. It is incompetence. Because the russian state apparatus employs people based on obedience, not competence.

    2. I actually believe that FSB is incompetent – for example, around 6 months ago I brought (by accident) cellphone with me inside Russian embassy in Washington – I just forgot to take it out of my pocket and the Russian security guy didn’t check me because he already saw me in the morning the same day and didn’t pay attention to me at all……

    1. She needs to never go above the first floor of every building now, falling out the window of the first floor won’t be so bad.

  3. Sometimes in life we have to make the hard choices she can never go back home the deep in her heart I guess she knows she’s doing the right thing🤔

    1. Until you realize that this was all part of russias plan to let our guard down to double agents.

      I would never trust any Russian ever again.

    2. Home is where the heart is . . . But only if your heart is in the right place. I just hope she’s telling the truth?

    3. i hope she doesnt have family there, putin knowing he will go for the family to either kill, capture or use as leverage

    1. As nice as that would be, it’s a fantasy. You think Putin wouldn’t be replaced by another party career man praising Lenin just as much? Cut off one head of the hydra and two will step up to replace it.

  4. Give them a chance. These people can help us and a brighter future Russia as they are the real Russian patriots.

    1. After 19 years since the beginning of the invasion of Iraq, has the West forgotten this war?
      The Iraq war is said to have resulted in 1 million deaths the difference is russia have weapons of mass destruction
      A message to the future generations never make russia feel threatened
      the difference between “looking dangerous” and “being dangerous”.Russia
      describes military doctrine as defensive military doctrine. With regard
      to nuclear weapons specifically, Russia reserves the right to use
      nuclear weapons: in response to the use of nuclear and other types of
      weapons of mass destruction against it or its allies,in case of
      aggression against Russia with the use of conventional weapons when the
      very existence of the state is threatened
      Russia has the World’s Largest Bomber
      As of 2022, the Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 5,977 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 5,428; Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads.

      Russia has the most nuclear weapons of any country, at 6,257. Of these, 1,458 are active, meaning they are already deployed, 3,039 are available (can be deployed if needed) and 1,760 are retired (out of use and awaiting dismantlement

      How do Russian nuclear weapons compare to the rest of the world?
      Russia – 6,257
      America 5,550
      UK – 225
      France – 290
      China – 350
      Israel – 90
      Pakistan – 165
      India – 156
      North Korea – 40

      When you tell the truth it’s always gonna be controversial.

      USA bombing list : the democracy world tour
      usa nuked japan

      -Korea and China 1950-1953
      (Korean War)
      -Guatemala 1954
      -Indonesia 1958
      -Cuba 1959-1961
      -Guatemala 1960
      -Congo 1964
      -Laos 1964-1973
      -Vietnam 1961-1973
      -Cambodia 1969-1970
      -Guatemala 1967-1969
      -Grenada 1983
      -Lebanon 1983-1984
      (both lebanese and syrian targets)
      -Libya 1986
      -Elsavador 1980s
      -Nicaragua 1980s
      -Iran 1987
      -Panama 1989
      -Iraq 1991 (persian gulf war)
      -Kuwait 1991
      -Somalia 1993
      -Bosnia 1994-1995
      -Sudan 1998
      -Afghanistan 1998
      -Yugoslavia 1999
      -Yemen 2002
      -Iraq 1991-2003
      (US/UK on reguler basis)
      -Iraq 2003-2015
      -Afghanistan 2001-2015
      -Pakistan 2007-2015
      -Somalia 2007-8 and 2011
      -Yemen 2009 and 2011
      -Libya 2011 and 2015
      -Syiria 2014-2015

      Never forget who’s the real threat to the world

    2. @knowledge America may have less nukes but 100 from each side is more than enough to end the modern world. The soviet union had nukes and didn’t manage to fire any off at actual targets by the time they fell apart. Here comes round 2 for soviet union 2.0 to fall again

    3. Those “nukes” would prob just explode before properly letting of. at this point they are just 2 Choices handle them like nazi Germany or erase everything Russian from the world map

    4. @knowledge The world is already on it’s deathbed. No one’s afraid of Russian nukes if we aren’t already intimidated by the existential crisises ALREADY deployed against mankind’s survival. Russia will be obliterated from the face of this earth if ot launched a nuke and no nuclear wepons have to be deployed against it. It’s struggling against UKRAINE. It will FLOUNDER against NATO.

  5. During the Cold War athletes, dancers, musicians, etc. from Soviet Union and other communist countries always had security escorts with them to keep them from defecting at international events. Family members were prevented from traveling together to keep them from defecting. Right before the Berlin Wall fell people living in communist East Germany and Czechoslovakia found a loop hole. Because Hungary was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire before 1918 many people still had relatives in Hungary and even Austria. Hungary allowed free movement between Hungary, Austria, and Czechoslovakia. People in East Germany would arrange a family vacation in Hungary and then cross into Austria or West Germany and never go home.

  6. It’s time the Russian people grew a backbone and put their lives on the line for freedom and democracy.

    1. in russia there will never ever be a western puppet again let that sink in your head,these are traitors whose fate is sealed

    2. @Brian T Western puppet? Russia will by the looks of things will be a Nazi regime for the foreseeable future.

  7. Great care must be taken, when dealing with the influx of ‘defectors’. That’s a preferred strategy….. 😎

    1. Its the way I see it to. Russia has never been our friend. Until the Putins of this world stop ruling over Russia not much will change. there was a brief moment in history with Gorbachev and Yeltsin that things could change but then they went right back to their old ways.

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  9. I wish for these defectors to genuinely help stop Putin, but also to find a better life.
    We did give asylum during the Cold War. Treat them the same way. Check the information. Use it as much as we can. Do not expose them to other defectors. Let them work as they can.

  10. It is important to be cautious when considering information provided by any individual with a history of working for a government agency or intelligence organization, as their past experiences and biases may influence the information they provide. Additionally, individuals with a history of working for such organizations may have a vested interest in providing information that is favorable to their former employer. However, it is also possible that a former FSB agent could provide valuable and accurate information, so it is important to evaluate information on a case-by-case basis and to consider the source’s credibility and potential biases.

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