The Justice Department is appealing last week’s ruling by a federal district court judge in Washington, D.C., who said the House of Representatives is legally entitled to see grand jury material gathered during the Mueller investigation. NBC News’ Pete Williams reports. Aired on 10/28/19.
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Justice Dept. Appeals Ruling To Hand Over Mueller Grand Jury Evidence | MSNBC
Yes of course because nothing says the mueller report is not dangerous like fighting tooth and nail,to keep it fully hidden.
Nothing proves Trump’s innocence like keeping it hidden too.
D SP like the movie liar liar
“You’re honour I object to this line of questioning”
“Why?”
“Because!……..it’s damaging to my clients case!”
E Clouston, if I were the judge in Trump’s case, my reply to their argument would’ve been, “counsel for the plaintiff, you recognize that the consequence of your argument made to this court is that you admit that on substance the evidence you wish to keep from congress will prove your client’s guilt because it will cause irrepetible damage on evidence, and that your only objection is not even procedural, it’s that it’s simply prejudicial to your case. You have just strengthened the defendant’s case to the evidence you wish to preclude. Would you like to withdraw your argument?”
And then Trump’s team would be like, “We would like to withdraw the argument, but we can’t because we have no arguments remaining”.
That’s pretty much what the last judge said to them when they ruled against Trump and in favour of congress.
D SP I just love that they used a defense based on the premise that a sitting president can’t be charged with a crime. That’s really their on,y choice now. Not a defence of I didn’t do it, or I didn’t know better. A defence of I’m guilty but the rules won’t allow you to charge my client. They used this defence in open court last week….sheeesh
Haven’t you heard? The Mueller report “completely exonerated” the President. That’s why they can’t let us see the rest of it, it’s too vindicating! Lol. I can’t believe some folks are still buying the B.S. they are selling.
The Trump Trash keep saying, “No collusion! No obstruction!!”😆
@Kenneth Tombs there has been 4 investigations on trump.. they all camr back the same.. not 1 crime or collusion.. what part you dont understand
@Randy Sanders
Apparently you don’t know how it works he doesn’t getdue process until the trial stage you don’t get due process before the trial stage
@Brad Dibble and that’s why your kangaroo court process in the basement of Congress looks so bad and isn’t fair! Republicans will rip apart these phony House hoaxters.
*Of course. Of course they would!!* Next they’ll say that rudy was wired tapped by his own butt call.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The house can concentrate on more than one thing at time. both Ukraine offences and the Mueller report can be allocate man power
The GOP is carrying out a slow-moving coup, by means of obstruction.
@Jonas…
And that’s what is scary about this adminstration.
Shawn Corbin you brain 🧠 dead pos 💩
Shawn Corbin hey Shawn you mom called she wants you to move out of the basement and get a job. She also wants you to take down the Putin poster or Nazi flag whatever it is she wants it out of the house. And tell her to quit calling me when she’s drunk I don’t date barflies.
@Shawn Corbin … You’re such a pathetic imbecile, you don’t even know there are republicans in Congress. LOL *Trump **_will_** be impeached! GET OVER IT!*
The people NEED to see the findings instead of Barrs joke of a report!!!!!!
@Randy Sanders The minority and president will be fully able to have its legal representation and depositions, once congress gets past the preliminary investigation. This is *not* presedence, in both former impeachment (inquires) congress weren’t really involved at this stage. This was done by DoJ appointed special councel / special investigator, in confidentiality with a grand jury (like how the Mueller investigation was conducted). THEN, the results were passed on to Congress and DoJ for evaluating whether or not formal impeachment proceedings were in order. We are not at that latter stage yet, where things go public, but at the former investigation stage. Congress did make a criminal referral to DoJ, but Barr, being snug and comfortable as a defense lawyer for the President, refused to even look at it, let alone apoint a bias and interests vetted special investigator. Had DoJ conducted a prelimnary investigation and said “nothing wrong here”, things might be different, but Barr refused DoJ to even touch it. So what Congress must do, as they’re doing right now, is the investigative job that DoJ should have been doing. No investigation is ever conducted in publiic, neither were the former impeachments. Doing that basically takes a wrecking ball to any potensial reliabilty of witnesses, testimony and evidence. And it pretty much gives a big and detailed roadmap for anyone seeking to intimidate or manipulate witnesses, and manipulate or destroy evidence.
In addition, these particular subjects revolve heavily around diplomatic and foreign policy and strategies, military aid and strategies, and intelligence – loads of the witness testimony material and other evidence, is bound to be classified. Meaning live testimony cannot legally be public. While these specific committee members have the neccessary security clearances, other congress members don’t. Meaning they couldn’t let non-committee congress members or other people sit in on the depositions, even if they wanted to. And neiher can they decide on their own to declassify any classified material disclosed in deposition, they need to get clearance to do so, or scrub those things from the video/transcripts if they are denied declassification, before the depositions can be made public. They will be, but as has been expressed during the weekend, expect public hearings and testimony to at least be _a couple of weeks_ away still.
Its easy to understand the confusion – impeachment isn’t exactly an every day, well worn in routine procedure. And Congress having to do the investigation themselves because the AG of the American people insists on sitting on the whole department’s hands rather than doing his job, doesn’t exacly help with the confusion.
And while Congress _can_ change some of the rules, they have *_not_*_ done so._ They’re following the rules as they were written, established and confirmed by the Republican House majority just a couple of years ago (during the Bengazi ordeal).
@pr0xZen
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@Randy Sanders Where have you been? Trump is refusing to cooperate.
@Doctor Thirteen take the vote then Trump will cooperate! Otherwise Schiff for brains is running a kangaroo court.
Totally the behavior of an innocent person
jeff mcgowan he didn’t brain dead Fox News orange 🍊 ball licker
🤣😂🤣😅🤣
jeff mcgowan same reason trump said he’d release his tax returns 50X only to fight releasing them in court
He will go to his impeachment hearing like a dog, whimpering and crying all the way.
@Crazy like a Fox Come out of your bubble, Needledick.
What is really terrible is Trump didn’t surprise me when he talked about the death of that ISIS leader in such crass disgusting terms. I’m SO embarrassed he’s our president. I’m truly praying all of his supporters will be able to be impartial when considering the guilt or innocence of Trump.
TRUMP also cowardly whimpered away from U.S. military service FIVE TIMES! Trump has no problem raping little girls, though.
So the Justice department, that we the people employ, is refusing to let we the people see documents we the people want to see. Got it.
bootnsoot: If you’re russian,you might get luckier.
They would have quashed the whole report if possible.
They certainly have tried every lie and deceit they could cook up to suppress the Mueller report. Remember Bill Barrs BS summation that was a complete lie?
@VILMA CABAN BABILONIA I would not be surprised if Trump did not provide the Russian consulate a full, unredacted copy of the report before It was ever published.
@Pogo Of course they probably have.
it look more like guilt then ever before,trump did do this all is life
@Dennis Manson She is bored. No rallies in her area right now.
@Releta Ortiz tell that to Trump and Fox…liar, liar… Souls on fire…
Obstruction is an admission of guilt.
@Releta Ortiz I don’t know what’s worse his sentence or your claim of fake news where your not in the position to claim anything is Fake…..i’m thinking the latter 🙄
Of course, they are not gonna comply unless someone is going to jail…
and that person is.william barr
Nobody is going to jail unless Pelosi stops playing this pussyfoot game and gets the House to vote on charging Barr with inherent contempt of Congress. She could have him arrested by Wednesday if she wanted to.
The House decides what they will be investigating NOT the Justice Department.
The Constitution of the United States of America: Article I § 2 grants the House of Representatives the sole power to impeach.
The Constitution of the United States of America: Article I § 3 grants the Senate the sole power to try impeachments.
The Constitution of the United States of America: Article I § 4 dictates:
“The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
*ASIDE:* There is no such thing as a formal inquiry. There is no law stating such. In fact, the U.S. Constitution has no prescribed rules for how the House should consider impeachment, and there is a history of Committees that considered impeachment, without declaring a so-called formal impeachment inquiry. When the House is in the process of investigating a President for impeachment, it already has the power to exercise its impeachment authority, in full.
Inquiry = investigation/s, by one or more committees, to gather evidence, to subpoena witnesses, and reviewing information about the President. It begins in the House Judiciary Committee.
Investigation/s are regarding if there is treason, and or bribery, and or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
Conclusions and determinations, will decide to move forward or not. If warranted due to the investigation/s, that there is treason, and or bribery, and or high crimes and misdemeanors, the House will decide on articles of impeachment, which will be put forth.
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IMPEACHMENT PROCEDURE:
Investigation/s. If warranted:
A member of the House of Representatives introduces an impeachment resolution, consisting of one or more articles of impeachment.
The Speaker of the House directs the House Committee on the Judiciary for a hearing, deciding to put the measure to full vote by the chamber.
A time is chosen for the vote.
A majority vote is needed of the Judiciary Committee to pass the resolution.
If approved, it moves to full vote on the floor. Articles are voted on singularly or in whole.
However, the Full House is not bound by the committee if there is not a majority vote. It can still impeach.
If impeached:
The Senate holds a trial to determine if the President committed a crime or crimes.
The Chief Justice of SCOTUS presides.
Summons to President: If no written answer to the charge/s, or the President does not appear, a Not Guilty plea is entered on his behalf.
The Senate listens to testimony, evidence and arguments.
(Of course, the President has counsel.)
The Senate deliberates, reconvenes, and votes if the President is guilty or acquitted.
If the President is found guilty by 2/3 vote of the Senate, he is removed and the Vice President is sworn in.
The President can resign, before or during the impeachment process.
The President can remain in office and accept the outcome.
The President, if found guilty of any charge, and removed, may still be liable for any other charge or charges, Federal or State.
A removed President cannot hold any other public office.
A removed President cannot be pardoned.
@Shane Polous Very well said…every word true 👍👍👌
@netzoned True word.👍👍👌
@gennaterra
And CORRUPTION.
Trump claimed, and keeps claiming, to his supporters that the Mueller report totally exonerated him. Behind closed doors, Trump and the Republican leadership knows the opposite is true.
Their legal argument in court is essentially, “Your honor, the plaintiff will be irreparably damaged if this exonerating material gets out”.
Trump supporters, please see the light. You’re being deceived by Trump, he speaks through both sides of his mouth, the words he uses to proclaim his innocence also reveal his guilt.
*Trump has lost every single court case this year — and he’s gonna lose this one, too.*
There is no longer a justice dept.
Billy Barr doing his best to hide the truth from the American Public.
google a book his father, who got Epstein that sweet deal, wrote called “Space Relations”. It is a pedophile fantasy. He told Sen Sasse he would recuse and as soon as he was confirmed he took the investigation over. This is most likely about those young girls so many abused, and Trump is also accused.
But he’s “perfect”, there’s nothing to hide… so why is the POS POTUS hiding at every turn
The Trump Administration, with the Jedi Mind Trick: *_”These are not the documents you need right now…..”_*
Barr has redacted something incriminating. Just watch and see.
Its almost like the DOJ is helping Trump hide his crimes.
@Samantha Cooper Okay. I thought it might be.
Its more like Trump is controlling and misusing the DOJ for safeguarding himself.
@Jas Sraw Barr is an active participant. The DOJ is a disappointment. Bigly.
From this day forward, we should call it the DOI (Department of Injustice).