New York Times reporter Stuart A. Thompson discusses what he learned after watching 50 hours of Russian state television about the invasion of Ukraine.
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Journalist watched Russian state TV for 50 hours. Hear what surprised him
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There is a very interesting book by Jessikka Aro, a Finnish Journalist, called Putin’s Troll Army – she describes there also, how the russian state propaganda works 💁🏻♂️
We have our own troll army on Twitter, and MSM
@Lolo Dee you give them excuse to act as they please by giving them the benefit of the doubt. Ever heard of compartmentalization of information?
When Anderson started I thought he was talking about republicans. Sow distrust and division on state (FOX) tv.
Same game plan, that is why there’s such affinity between Trumpsters and Putin’s regime. Heidrich Himmler would be proud his legacy lives.
considering that the Ukrainians hit a second ship a day or two ago, it there gonna be another “accident”? Will anyone start wondering why ships conducting special operations near Ukraine spontaneously catch fire sometimes?
@TIGER 112 ppp
And a nuke sub
@zluka bober keep telling yourself that 🤣🤣
“Is distracted sailors leaving potato in galley microwave too long.”
–Tass.
“The world is in more peril from those who tolerate evil or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it.” -Dr. Albert Einstein
@Pastafarians, UNITE! (P.U. for short) Ahaha nasty
@Bane BlackGuard I wish your dad was president
A man watched Russian state TV for 50 hours. This is what happened to his brain.
This is Russian brain: 🧠
This is Russian brain after 50 hours of state-run media: 🙈🙉🙊
I’m thinking of that episode of “The Simpsons”, where Ned Flanders talks about cider, and Homer’s brain just quietly floats out of his head.
Chubby Emu!!! 👍🏼
@PhilLesh69
Orc? 😆
Another aspect of the Ukrainian spirit I find fascinating is not only their fighting spirit but also their unyeilding detirmination to restore that which has been destroyed, physically. Their comrades immediately emerge to begin restoring damaged electrical grids, temporary bridge repairs, debris removal. These people will never be conquered no matter how successful Russias millitary are.
Putin cannot defeat the Ukrainian will to be a free, independent, sovereign nation.
SLAVA UKRAINI, HEROIAM SLAVA!!
🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇸
Exactly they have already started demining operations and even rebuild. Just unbelievable fortitude.
AMEN!!! SLAVA UKRAINI FROM GERMANY!!!
Glory to Ukraine! Glory to Ukrainian heores!
Russian TV – “the ship experienced a minor ammunition incident, a small fire was put out, and brave sailors received Medals of glory”…And now back to our regularly scheduled program the “Bugs Bunny and Tweety hour”
truthhttps://youtu.be/3RVEXAp6PuU
622299-they would never show bugs Bunny and the Tweety hour over there. It’s much to racy for Russian TV
😆🤣
@Lolo Dee 😆🤣
@Elizabeth Dillon 😆
I can only hope that younger generations of Russians will be more sane and bring their country out of the 19th century way of thinking.
@Cheryl Pitre Unfortunately some of those younger russians were deported back to russia and blacklisted forever after got caught making some troubles abroad such as doing a disrespectful things on holy sites or got involved on a drunken brawl.
Just like guns on the streets in USA???n
@Kenneth Morrison no it doesn’t. Not equal.
Yes, I heard this as well. The same Russian journalists report some events differently so that people are dazed and confused and distrustful of the media.
truthhttps://youtu.be/3RVEXAp6PuU
Kinda like CNN.
@Roger Pennel at least I know what gender I am cupcake.
Well yeah, cynicism is anathema to truth, or rather the pursuit of truth and understanding it.
You don’t need to tell a perfect lie, you just need to obscure the truth.
@Bryan Dimery I don’t know the best way to go about it, but it certainly feels like a war of ideologies. I think the Russians need love, kindness and hope because I’m not sure if hitting them over and over with ‘look how terrible Russians are’. This is constantly blasted at them outside Russia (for good reason) but for those genuinely good people or those sitting on the fence, it’s going to be hard to want to support an ideology that hates you…
I find that cynicism is often just twisting the truth, and is based on one’s narrow view of their small sphere of influence.
I believe that “cynicism” should be replaced with “all media.” There is no such thing as honest media (or politicians).
May God always bless Ukraine 🇺🇦 🤲 🙏
Ameen
🇨🇦 Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦
@manbtm1 we don’t know that
@Hirdley Reid Anything else I can correct you on today kid?
@Hirdley Reid russia for the massacres. No thank you
As a person who lived in russia until a few years ago I can say – that journalist is a trooper. The state TV there is toxic trash that one has to literally endure
“confuse them so they’re not sure of what to believe”…Our pm in UK Boris Johnson openly said he uses that same tactic.
it is easier to fool people than to convince them that they are fooled ( quoted from someone)
Kudos to you for not attributing that to Mark Twain. Many people do, but there’s no evidence he ever actually said it. Although I’m sure he would have wished he had.
Mark Twain
Says a lot when they would rather admit incompetence than an enemy attack
@Gagan Sandhu Ukraine was not a threat.. what are you even talking about? The one inch east statement was made after WWII about Germany, not about any other nation or territory. That statement was made with the Soviet Union, not with present day Russia, which is a different nation at this point. There are no agreements with Russia about other nations joining NATO for one, and there are no dangers to Russia from other nations, the danger is Russia attacking its neighbors. Why do you think they rush to join NATO. Russia did this to itself and nobody in their right mind would assert that Russia has the right to control any other nation’s future decisions Geo-politics aside. Russia already has multiple neighbors that have nukes and none have attacked Russia and Russia has not attacked them. Ukraine sees this and decides that it needs to defend itself since Putin keeps messing around with separatists in their territory. I really do not care where you are from, if you believe Russian propaganda, that is your choice.. I block all mind-numbed zombies of the Putin cult.
@L. Augustine Khalafala
Well, I never said the fighting will be in Ukraine only but that’s where the fighting is currently located.
@Mutant Hybrid it wasn’t about Germany cuz Germany was already decided by that agreement that one inch east meant past Germany clearly lmao
And the Soviet Union collapsed because it’s lead country “Russia” couldn’t afford to keep the other countries.
So the same government they made that agreement with is the same government that changed its name to the Russian government in totality instead of Russia (head of the Soviet Union)
The excuses you tried to make are so funny
It’s almost as if you’d be fine with nukes in Cuba from Russia oh wait that happened and u weren’t fine with it.
So why would Russia be fine with nukes in Ukraine?
You can be a hypocrite but hypocrite are always wrong
I don’t understand how face is saved by saying that the Russian sailors were so inept that they caused or allowed a fire to sink their flagship.
Blaming them for an enemy attack is an insult to those sailors.
You’re talking about a lineage of Russian leadership that wrote off 3.5 million deaths in WWI, 10 million during the Russian Civil War, 4 million during the Holodomor, and 27 million during WWII. Stalin said that Germany didn’t have any Soviet prisoners of war instead they only had traitors. Putin is an ex-KGB officer and he has inherited his indifference to human life from his predecessors.
@Roger Pennel Having been there it is easy to see clearly the common Russian personality: indifferent to human sufferings including their own, vanity with their own failures and second class status as a backdrop, ethics based on success not based on the loss or hardships of their victims, arrogance derived from verbiage and psychology not actual accomplishments but those too, regardless of how they’re achieved. Basically “We’ve been screwed so long (internally) we don’t care what we do to APPEAR as champs.”
@Roger Pennel Russia has always used the line “if you are a patriot who loves his motherland you will fight for it.” Subliminal message is: “If you love your home you will do the will of the government.” As if home and government were the same, which of course, they’re not. Many countries do this, sadly.
I feel a guys pain to watch Russian TV for 50 hours. But from other side I was watching USSR tv for 20 years until we broke free( Latvia).
We ought to consider what happens in the minds of the Russian viewers when the message goes from ‘there was a fire on the ship” to “we are going to retaliate against the Ukrainians for the sinking of the ship”. That kind of discontinuity is certainly not lost on many people, but the reality of the situation constrains their behavior to a large degree. It is risky and of limited utility for Russian citizens to question the party line, so it is understandable that so many go along. What good would it do for them to stick their neck out anyway?
But it is hard to believe there is not a large chunk of the population that knows they are being lied to.
Babylon 5 was a sci-fi show that explains how reporters could rebel against a government run press. This might be one of those cases.
You know things are bad when your argument is “we weren’t outsmarted and we’re not weak. We’re just incompetent.”
🐤💨@Giggles Wiggles
Was that the US on the Afghan war, bay of pigs invasion, Iraq war?
@hodaka1000 🍉🍰
pretty accurate tho ngl.
On Telegram a mother of a sailor of the Moskva asked, if anybody of the parents of the sailors had recognized any of the “boys”. She claimed that she new most of the young man, but of the ones presented to be the crew, she could not recognize any of them and she did want to know if she was the only one or if anybody else had recognized anybody.
The response from the sailors parents was unanimous, none recognized them or none looked familiar.
Also that she was told that her son was missing and she did want to find out how many had received the same message. To make it short, it was well more than 27 (the official number of MIA sailors) and so far none of the parents was informed if their son was still alive or not.
As the exchange was further escalating and more people became involved asking question, the conversation was suddenly “broken up” and nothing has been heard ever since from the parents of the Moskva sailors.
Eventually we will find out how many have perished as it is not plausible that only the captain had lost his life, 27 were missing and the reminder were all rescued.
Thank you for the information, I hope those parents are all okay as well as their sons. I’ll have to keep my ears and eyes open for future news. This is all horrible.