CNN's John King breaks down the state of play around reopening states in the coronavirus pandemic.
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Meanwhile, I STILL can’t get a test quickly in my ED. When we admit someone we suspect with COVID-19, they are admitted as PUI ( Patient under investigation) . It still takes days to confirm . The numbers of admitted patients with COVID-19 in our S.C. hospital have been under reported that way since the start. The tests are also not perfect (no test is). But, when patients die without testing or with the very common false negative test they are not counted in the state numbers. We can say for sure this is not uncommon. We see patients who have several tests that are negative before a positive test finally results while in the hospital. Unfortunately, retesting when there are fewer tests than are needed is detrimental to the community. Using the limited testing resources on those we know have it, just to get them counted. This will leave others in the community spreading to others that should be in quarantine. We also usually don’t “waste” a test postmortem. Often, these will be labeled cardiac arrest, heart attack or in many cases respiratory arrest. In these cases, believe it or not, if a chest X-ray is done before they die and there are signs of pneumonia they will be officially counted as influenza and pneumonia without a positive COVID-19 test (that is a whole other rant). I have been in tertiary referral ED for over 15 years. We are getting pretty good at knowing what the sick COVID-19 patients look like. There is no other disease we have seen like this. I am not talking about the 95% of the people that do not get sick at all or have a range of mild to bad “stomach bug” , mild to bad “cold” , flu like illness, or “this cough that just won’t go away”. It causes all of those. It is difficult to guess them without a test, but they usually get better. I am talking about the ones who are going to die. If they don’t die, they are in for a rough ride. It has so many ways to kill you that it is scary. The disease itself causes a varying combination of respiratory failure, massive clotting of blood [leading to pulmonary embolism (blocks blood flow to lungs), stroke, heart attack], cardiac instability leading to cardiac arrest . And, this is likely just the common ones and we will continue to find more. As one ER doctor, I have seen at least two COVID-19 deaths and heard of many others from partners that will not show up in the official totals. So, as we are starting to hear more and more from the NOT FAKE NEWS that the numbers are wrong, I can tell you from first hand experience they are right. But, not in the direction they and the White House are pushing on their followers and the rest of the country. Of course, as has been the common lie, it is exactly the opposite. I could go on, but most likely, no one will read this anyway.
Mohawk Nation normally I would totally agree. I am sure you get this already but, their bad decisions make it impossible to keep this in check. For instance. Just the simple thing of everyone wearing a mask in public places would save thousands. But at this point in the US, that will not happen. So, stupid doesn’t kill stupid in this case. It just kills.
The world will have to live with this, just like the flu. We tested much more then any other country, so we have more confirmed cases. It’s possible when this is over, the actual death rate is much lower. However, so many cases equals so many deaths.
Robert Swims those weren’t real doctors. They were urgent care doctors. My six absolute dumbest Facebook friends posted that video. So we know what class you’re in.
Fancy Brooks don’t forget 340,000 swimming pool deaths every year. Why are these pools still legal?
@Shane. Dr. Frederick. Your voice is to be heard! Don’t say “no one will read this anyway”. Because you and the front line workers know better than anyone else as to the severity of this disease. The pain and suffering you all have been a part of and the people who have lost loved ones to this know most. It is people like you who give the most confidence going forward. You and your fellow associates are who we need to hear from…
Lol sign language guy looks like a texas pastor turned drug dealer.
@markmac https://www.news9.com/story/5eb07cd65293c63f926ad091/2-arrested-in-connection-with-sw-okc-homicide
Damn, now I see what you are talking about. That’s so an apt description ever. Wait, not his fault, merely following guidelines and not getting a haircut. 😏
Adrian K YESSS
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is that all you can offer? you’re a dumbass
I got a “no tresspassing” sign up in my yard…so I reckon that old coronavirus will stay away!!!!😁
david zero > Try “ no trespassing, residents in quarantine from Coronavirus infection”. “Enter at your own risk”. It sure will dissuade any trespassers. 😁😁😁
“It’s ridiculously” cautious! Meanwhile, daily testing and masks for all those around him in the White House 💁♂️🦠🦠🦠💩
@terry hampton SNOPES IS FAKE NEWS!
@Nadia Silvershine – why you leftists like to twist things to fit your political narrative? The moment he said that I knew what he meant. I will say it again. The federal government is not meant to be the states massive warehouse. The states are meant to be the first responder.
John King ought to know about disasters. He works for one.
@Nadia Silvershine – you are confirming my point. A number of the states didn’t even know what stock they had. It was too easy to call the White House and then go on CNN to criticise trump if supplies are not sent.
After reading most of the comments I finally realized why America is in the shape it’s in.
@Robert Swims TRUMP LIED, PEOPLE DIED!!
@David Milton whew!! (wipes forehead with palm of my hand) I’m glad you didn’t steal the 2016 else we would’ve had Crooked Hillary as president 🤪🤪
@Raul Sosa how is he acting like one?
@marvin urmenita We no longer have everyone living on homesteads, capable of providing all their survival needs by themselves, so without the economy, survival needs of the people cannot be met, and the economic consequences of the shutdown will eventually kill more people than the virus itself.
@Larry Shell When the debate is over, slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Yeah, the restaurants are finally open!! Let’s take mom out to eat for mother’s day!!
Worst mother’s day gift ever: Corona virus 😢😢😢
@MC KO It’s got a 6% death rate you fkn bozo.
@Bugs Bunny they now know here and other countries having antibodies doesn’t mean that. That’s why the military won’t let anyone enlist with the antibody
NatarisX , prove it
The reason why the Trump administration scrapped the detailed reopening guide from the CDC and put a muzzle on Dr, Fauci is
because none of the states currently meet all the guidelines. So these states are now being guided by a secret plan from FEMA. Mark my words, every single state in the U.S. will reopen their economy by the
end of May regardless of how many COVID-19 cases or deaths there are or
whether they have done enough testing in any particular state. Don’t matter if it’s a Republican or Democrat run state. So governors on both sides of the aisle are in on this agenda not just the GOP. Public school nationwide will reopen in the Fall.
How do I know this? It’s because from the start of this pandemic, Bill
Gates said to shut down the nation for 6 to 10 weeks then reopen the economy by the end of May 2020 and open public schools in the Fall. Thus, all governors will blindly reopen their governments because there are no guidelines in place. Trump will continue to pressure all governors to reopen just as he recently pressured the governor of Virginia, the only state with a stay-at-home order that extends beyond May, to comply. While this is still a theory, time will tell.
Ptexpress 74 You don’t go to Walmart and Costco every day and then spend 8-10 hours in those days in close proximity to possibly infected people.
Next they will tell people they can work if they are sick as long as they wear a mask.
@Mr. G They are taking as much vacation, sick and whatever they have. Most of them have nothing to do but the politicians will tell you they are preventing husbands and wives from yelling at each other and disturbing the neighbors. Most police departments are huge parasites with people that need psychiatric help but are not emotionally intelligent enough to truly benefit from it.
tRump has said that already.
The reason why the Trump administration scrapped the detailed reopening guide from the CDC and put a muzzle on Dr, Fauci is
because none of the states currently meet all the guidelines. So these states are now being guided by a secret plan from FEMA. Mark my words, every single state in the U.S. will reopen their economy by the
end of May regardless of how many COVID-19 cases or deaths there are or
whether they have done enough testing in any particular state. Don’t matter if it’s a Republican or Democrat run state. So governors on both sides of the aisle are in on this agenda not just the GOP. Public school nationwide will reopen in the Fall.
How do I know this? It’s because from the start of this pandemic, Bill
Gates said to shut down the nation for 6 to 10 weeks then reopen the economy by the end of May 2020 and open public schools in the Fall. Thus, all governors will blindly reopen their governments because there are no guidelines in place. Trump will continue to pressure all governors to reopen just as he recently pressured the governor of Virginia, the only state with a stay-at-home order that extends beyond May, to comply. While this is still a theory, time will tell.
As long as people make money for the states to grabs ,they didn’t even care
It’s too early to be opening restaurants for dine in, but if I reject my manager when asking me to come back in to work, I lose my job.
In some cases that may be the plan. Employers open up even for a short time. The employees that don’t return as some won’t right away will be fired reducing the number of unemployed. Thus reducing their unemployment insurance premiums. Nice Huh?
Debbie Partir here’s the deal in Michigan , we were asked to shelter in place for two weeks to “buy time for the hospitals” the hospitals are not overwhelmed and it’s day 63 . The paycheck protection plan I received is only good for two months payroll, now my guys are applying for unemployment benefits. I hope they come back when we get on our feet again they are good family men !
I don’t think they’ll get that many customers, and as soon as someone gets the virus, they won’t get any customers. You should stay out as long as you can. Call your state Representative and ask if there’s a law protecting you from losing your job for quarantining. If we would have had testing right off the bat, and contact tracing right off the bat, we wouldn’t be in this dire ‘between a rock and a hard place’ economic situation. There was a pandemic task force ready to implement a plan, but Trump’s administration did away with it. So here we are in a situation where most of us already know someone who has or had the virus, and eventually we’re all going to get it. Because of tremendous absence of leadership and horribly botched response. It’s ongoing. tRump is doing the exact same thing that got us into trouble in the first place.
@uk gamer The media is playing you all for fools. there are cures. One is vitamind. And the sun. A gift from God.
Five years from now your 1984 NWO masters will still tell you it’s too early. Reconcile that.
In order for there to be a “second wave” the “first wave” has to dip. There won’t be a second wave anytime soon because we’re still riding high on the crest of the first wave.
The wave metaphor needs to be exchanged for something else because our government has failed so horribly that we never hit a trough. Imagine having a government so bad that you can’t properly use this metaphor for an infectious disease.
No new infection, that’s b.s. It,s the cold and flu season plus there is a radiation bombardment taking place. https://youtu.be/UtbtpLLFyuQ
You mean COVERT19 https://youtu.be/v7_VuQ2b9n8
This man told us 2 years ago about this “infection” @ 5gdangers.com please watch his vids there or on the fullerton informer channel
Outofshadows.org documentary about the fake news, etc
Imagine a troll so desperate to cast dirt on America and President Trump. I wonder how long it took you to create your hate speech. Lots of cliche’s and metaphors, but truly lacking in facts, and its rather obvious that the author suffered horribly , having to wait until the end of this diatribe to clearly show his TDS
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*🎵Mitch caught a body about a week ago!!! week ago…🎵*
(Week ago!)
wow, i didn’t know that the great kahli was fluent in sign language.
“$1,200 stimulus only covered a month in rents. Unemployment system phone lines are Jam from overwhelming calls, because they are smart going paperless n wireless.” 😷
of* rent*
jammed* from the* overwhelming calls
@Darth Vader The spelling/grammar sucks, so the point made can be ignored, interesting.
…so many never heard of this; “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
tRump does that all day long. He is a fool.
I can’t read any of your words because of your hypnotic profile pic 😂😂
@Cameron Personally,, When Getting Change,, I Prefer 2 Nipples For A Dime..Lol.
@methehappyone lol 😂😂
So it’s a hand feeling a boob. Big fucking deal – child. Why don’t you grow the hell up and start thinking of ways to help. Before you know it there will be no hands or boobs for them to feel.
80,000 Americans couldn’t be reached for comment!
@felix u seek help immediately, specifically mental health help. Believing falsehoods are not good for you.
@felix u That’s an entirely different narrative felix. Women have a right to choose what they do with their bodies and unwanted pregnancies. If you’re so pro-choice, you should be lobbying the White House to improve testing, tracing and isolation instead of encouraging states to open up and more people dying.
@Upper 90 Don’t be impatient, Trump’s slowly getting well above his initial number. Wait until all those Trump states open up, it’ll go down in history as genocide.
@Louise Australia you sound like a true Communist.
Ti Man TRUMP 2020 if you disagree don’t reply back
In the state of ****** where I live, friends in the HD tell me thousands of test results are being held for no good reason…people see the low numbers and are running about like Covid never happened..i am staying home.
You know vitamin d. and the sun kill the virus right?
@Rise up We know you’re an idiot, right?
@Rob Yorkshire typical response from the fact fearing left
@David Mayfield What facts are you talking about? The fact that you are an ignorant moron with no medical or scientific knowledge?
Rise up I live in Phoenix, plenty of sun. In fact, about 14 hours of it every day. Yet, cases are going up 🤔
This could of all been avoided…. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
JoeJoeGaming not when 3 million Chinese tourists came into the west coast when they had the covid 19 outbreak in its prime before anyone knew about it
this is playing out to be a remake of the 1917 pandemic. Nothing has changed.
1918. The only one who says the Spanish flu took place in 1917 is Donny Boy. My guess is that he keeps thinking about the movie “1917” when he says and repeats that LOL
@jdslyman well yes the pandemic was declared in 1918 but its not a fact.The exact origin of the Spanish flu, in late 1917 or early 1918, is still debated. … Barry wrote in his book, “The Great Influenza” and the “Journal of Translational Medicine,” the first known cases were probably in Haskell County, Kansas in 1917. From here in southwest Kansas it could have spread to Fort Riley.
I am no one Except there’s a cure for Corona that the media is hiding.
@Rise up True but remember that we could of had a cure for that as well. We have it now.
Reopening will “MAKE CORONA GREAT AGAIN!!!!”
I love how the left uses “science” as a political tool, yet when real science is used to disprove them we are called science deniers. Please tell me what the scientific method is. Is it a computer model that was millions of deaths off, is science a computer model that claims the earth is warming then when its actually viewed to not be warming so called scientists fudge collected data to make it seem like the model wasn’t wrong? Isn’t real science when a hypothesis is made then a test performed to determine whether the hypothesis is right or not? Doesn’t the test need to be accurate and repeatable? Stop being idiots learn what science is and isn’t before spouting off like morons. No wonder cnn is called fake news