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Inside The House Democrats' Post-Election Reckoning | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Donald Trump is killing our country
Trumps followers just need guns, flags, women in vests and trucks. No vision, no healthcare and a mouthful of abscessed and lack of education, sorted..
@cosgrove notts : There are an awful lot of people who aren’t Trump followers as you say. Nor are they cultists and support Trump as the “dictator”. Many of us just do not buy what democrats are selling.
@cosgrove notts people like you are the reason the country is divided. Most likely you’re a foreigner though
@The Tweatles i wish you would come back and share more of your wisdom and confidence with us in January – but you’ll be back under your rock by then.
I don’t know guys.. I feel more alive than I have the last 4 yrs. looking toward the future again and not closing my eyes hoping I don’t see the next Trump atrocity.
Trump gave us a gift. We saw we can’t trust government to keep themselves into check. They showed us what they were capable of and how they can outright destroy people for their own personal gain and don’t care who sees it.
They showed us how powerless we are once they are voted in.
I don’t see our voting numbers going anywhere but up from now on.
Joe biden 2020
Mitch mcconnell want Obama to be a one term president and he got his wish with Trump as a one term Impeached President.
@The Tweatles IF YOU’RE HAVING A BAD YEAR, JUST REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT DONALD TRUMP WHO WILL GO DOWN AS AN IMPEACHED, ONE TERM PRESIDENT WHO ALSO GOT COVID AND LOST THE POPULAR VOTE TWICE!!
@The Tweatles
Still on the pipe, aren’t you?
@Wildman’s Journey …
…and there’ll will still be a new President sworn in on Jan 20, 2021, and it won’t be Trump. However, in cases where the outcome of the election is under dispute, which is not the case here as the difference in votes between Biden and Trump is as big as the Grand Canyon, but supposing otherwise for the sake of argument, the Presidency then goes to the Speaker of the House. Yes, Speaker Nancy Pelosi would then become President until the dispute is resolved.
Word to the wise, if you don’t like Biden, you’ll then get Pelosi instead😊
@Jeremy Backup And be the first to be re-elected – despite the Democrats witch hunt – once the recounts and courts get done.😉
@krnpowr It’s not and never was a nothing burger. He has no pardon (yet) for those issues, and it’s most likely why he’s been rearranging people in the Pentegon like furniture. He wants to destroy the evidence. The statute of limitations is not yet passed on many of these charges. The man is scared to death… and he should be.
Orangina 45 you’re fired good bye.
I love it!!
2024
The New York estate DPT of justice is waiting for Donal Trump in front of the white house with HANDCUFFS,,,,,Hallelujah
Impeachment and the game playing between Pelosi and McConnell and not doing more to hold Republicans accountable for unethical behavior
Tell Republicans to quit using that word or defund do not use that word
Reform in place of defunding because that’s truly what is happening reform! Instead of socialism say program it’s simple and words matter
Impeachment was holding Trump accountable. Tbh, they probably would’ve lost the POTUS election says Allan Lichtman, the political scientist who predicted accurately every election since 1984 (except for 2000 which was decided by Bush v Gore).
The Democrats that lost their seats didn’t really stand for anything (like milk toast Liberals) and defunding police didn’t really heart Dems in my area where Joe Biden got more support from Suburban Whites than Hillary in 2016.
To the GOP, “Socialism” is anything coming from the government that targets individuals instead of corporations. They don’t believe the government should work for the people it represents but rather create a pseudo feudalistic society by remaining beholden to Plutocrats. Dems just need to reframe the narrative and then repeat it, again and again.
Nancy Pelosi will still be Speaker and Dems will control the House
We definitely need to replace Nancy Pelosi.
Ummm there’s a infighting between the democrats and progressives in the house. The squad wants her not to be speaker anymore.
@David Hale She’s too soft and old. Time for someone with a spine.
@Deborah Hennessey I don’t disagree one bit.
Expiring President Trump is Done… He’s Expired! Fired Him!
He who laughs last,….laughs best.
TrumpNation2020
Wow, please don’t riot after the the recounts and court decisions re-elect him.
The term defunding was stupid. You should finance the police differently. Defund was bloody stupid
Dems aren’t known for their messaging
Democrats support BLM lgbtq and defunding the police *FACT
tinyurl.com/yx9gfrba 😳
Yeah, wrong term for right policy. The socialism thing is stupid. They call every democrat socialist. And it is true. We want social security and health care and good education for all. This guy in here calling socialism un-american is evil. He tries to make it sound like socialism means small salary for everyone. Our most popular president since Lincoln, Roosevelt, was the most socialist we ever had. How is that un-american?
Exactly!!
It’s not the dem’s fault that republikkkans do not understand words.
Melania : Doonald, ar we Packing soon. Do you have any Money left for me. Can I take Christmas decorations with me.
@David Goodfellow I have a feeling she has the paperwork all ready to go
@Polaris Zene her lawyers are testing the prenup right now for leaks
@David Goodfellow can you imagine being married to him ?
@Polaris Zene no one can .. especially his wife
I bet they gut the whitehouse😅😅😅😅that’s what squatters do…
In these COVID-19 times I was happy to read that all Trumps lawyers just tested negative….in a IQ-test ;o)
we need to get past this whole fear of being unamerican though I mean this honestly because some of the worlds best ideas didn’t come into the world from us.
My state just took portugals approach to the drug war for instance….
You don’t know how bitter I’ve been about the fact that there are solutions internationally but we cannot use them because “but but but we’re exceptional!”
A fellow Oregonian then. I voted for that, and was surprised it passed. The war on drugs has sucked up too many tax dollars, and is responsible for the militarizing of the police.
I wont deny that some world ideas are exceptional. But I can’t stand American innovations, and ideas being trampled on at times. Which country invented the modern telephone system? Who invented and to this day innovated the internet? The same internet we are using right now on this YouTube thread? I’m not taking sides on partisan politics. But as a citizen of this great country, it definitely did not come from outside the US. We need to get past the fear that United States citizens as a whole are un-American by default because it may be perceived that we don’t listen to opinions outside the world. I won’t deny we have problems, and many of us can be overconfident a bit, but I simply tune out the stereotypes of how US citizens are perceived outside our borders. Of course, we are not all that exceptional, but I’ll be quite honest, we definitely do matter. I ask many of us to read “The Declaration of Independence” over and over before making an opinion. I read it over and over whenever I question our modern moral identity.
How come the USA gets a wave of citizens from other places. Throughout my adult life, I’ve never heard of an American wave immigrating to Russia for example and all other places. I guess it’s not all that bad for people around the world to come to our borders. I wonder why? Perhaps the USA is exceptional after all. I won’t deny we don’t have the solutions to every problem, but I do believe in my heart on paper the best place for overall opportunity. Again, I will admit, we still have some huge problems. But to this day, I still believe in this country. Even after post election. Let’s all be Americans and believe in that as a people. And even any sitting president will not be able to fix that. People do when they put the right people in position to lead.
Republicans call even the most centrist Democrats socialists. They always have. It’s lazy. It’s their schtick. Shouldn’t their use of the “s” word be expected at this point?
@Corey Ham What they need to clarify as well is the fact that though they pass laws and regulations that help the people as a whole, they are not socialists. They need to show them countries such as North Korea, which labels itself a social Communistic society, so they can start seeing the difference. Than they have to make sure to take th es credit when they do something and not let the Republicans do it. Often I’ve seen them take full credit for something the Democrats have worked so hard to bring about. The Republicans on the other hand are quick at pointing at them and accusing them of bring a socialist or worse communist. I’ve run across a lot if comments based on this misinformation.
@twilady2500 Good points. My reaction is that nobody can clarify or educate with merely words any Chump cultists or most republicans. They are so brainwashed and misinformed that the only way to reach them is with actions and real consequences that affect them directly and personally. Since they are anti-socialism, you have to cut off the “socialist benefits” that they personally receive. Examples such as farm subsidies. FEMA relief, etc. Just identify some as starting examples with perhaps more than could be identified for later. Secondly, they could take on the fake right wing evangelical religious fanatics by taking away their IRS religious tax preference. So called ministries like Paula While and many others like her are really more like republican quasi political organizations that spew plenty of misinformation. Thirdly, they could take on the pandemic and the republican argument of individual right to not mask, not social distance, etc. And the way you do that is make individuals responsible for the cost of their own actions. For example, have law enforcement ticket such people. And the cost of the ticket is denial of covid insurance coverage via medicare. And enable private insurers to deny covid cost coverage for the same reasons. That would leave the cost of non-compliance solely on those individuals who claim it is their right to choose .. which is exactly where the cost should be placed. Furthermore, you could enable these non-comply folks to be placed at the bottom of the hospital ICU list if they do get infected.. The overall point being that Chump cultists and republicans will only begin to understand reality when action and consequences affect them directly and personally. Just my view.
@Corey Ham The bad thing is that there is a group among them that would only see the removal of benefits as proof that were right all along. And than you have the innocent ones who would be caught in the middle, then we would be as bad as them. You also have a minority of Trump’s followers that would probably see dying for his as a righteous thing. Do you recall 9-11, probably to name the most well known. There is really no difference between these terrorists and the ones we call cult followers of Trump. Both sides would jump fir their leader into a volcano if he said so. I agree they should be last on the list but I doubt the doctors have the time to look up their profile. I think that many that aren’t so taken in by the lies will start seeing the truth now that Covid19 is striking these states so hard and until today to take a credit that is not his, Trump has left them on their own. The tv evangelists are another group that is out of our hands, people are so anxious to find God without putting much effort on it that they are easy prey for that organization as well as others. Back in history people gave money to the church to buy their way into heaven and after so many years still have not realize that this does not work. At least I hope it does not, I still haven’t gone there, but I assume by what we have been taught that this is so.
@twilady2500 You raise some valid observations. But there are no perfect solutions, somebody will always get “hurt” when you make changes. In my experience, you cannot combat lies, misinformation, deception, stated beliefs, etc with logic and words. People only change such views when they are directly confronted with real consequences of those views. And generally that means that they have to bear the cost of those views, especially the financial cost of such. The socialism bogeyman being the classic example. The farmers being the easiest example to make. Just let them have their so called anti socialist agenda and remove all farm and ranching government subsidies. Yes, some would be hurt, but that is the price you pay to learn reality. The bigger challenge in the US would be reducing or eliminating corporate socialism and corporate subsidies. The country has to start somewhere …. so what are you suggesting then?
Except it works.
Rent a U-Haul trucks put them by the White House get him out of there
All the uhauls are busy by people fleeing New York California and Wisconsin.
The guest is incorrect in saying ‘This is common sense stuff.” To fully appreciate that AOC is not in charge, a person would have to know how the House works and that there are 435 members. Not many Americans meet those two criteria.
And those that don’t, vote Republican.
I’m older than 24, I earn a decent salary, I would prefer the government handle my Healthcare than a greed motivated company. What’s wrong with that?
Same!!!!
You want the government to handle your healthcare?
Good luck with that.
That money will disappear down the Democrat black hole faster than a pie on Michael Moore’s lap. You’re 24, is that your age or your IQ?
The government can barely pass a budget every year. Yet, you want them to handle your healthcare????
Well, one thing that is wrong is that you, or many like you, and, more importantly, most unlike you, aren’t willing to pay the taxes necessary for it.
**DEMS NEED TO STOP LISTENING TO REPS…..THAT HAS BEEN THEIR DOWNFALL!**
As a Canadian with a front row seat, I don’t know how anyone can vote Republican. But I also can’t believe how dishonest the Republicans are.
Amen!!! They’re so patriarchal, and only care about money and power. Not about people. Peace, fellow Canadian. 💚🇨🇦💚
You’re not Canadian, you’re Trudeau’s peoplekind.
Real Canadians do not support communism.
No matter how many errors has the Democrats have made, we’re getting Trump’s butt out of there!
Ever heard of the, “Doctrine of Clean Hands?”
Don’t count your weasel before he pops.
“Defund the Police” is a terrible name for what was intended.
@If you don’t vote for Biden, YOU AIN’T BIDEN slogan’s main goal is to ‘sway’ people who does ‘not’ agree with us. Btw, being ‘progressive’ does not mean one must be offensive and naive.
@If you don’t vote for Biden, YOU AIN’T BIDEN I did think when I first heard it that people would not understand what was being proposed. It may not be what you think is correct and that people are stupid for it. But words have meanings and those words do project something that was not what was intended and also were easily used to twist the intent. I think another term would have been better
@Lorraine Trotter sure thing. How about “Bankrupt MSNBC”? That’s one I can get behind. It’s clear too
@If you don’t vote for Biden, YOU AIN’T BIDEN How about “trolling for Putin”? Even more to the point.
@LardGreystoke Or “Corporate Dem Wall St Bootlicker”