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The president again refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses to Biden in November. The Atlantic's Barton Gellman writes about how Trump could throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Aired on 9/24/2020.
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  1. The shenanigans of Trump and his cronies must not discourage Americans from voting. Besides being a corrupt, this guy is desperate, the polls are not to his advantage which is why he fraudulently tries to win
    Vote Blue! Vote Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!
    Vote right now !

    1. Even dump picks the best judge in our supreme court justice, my Independent vote won’t go for dump. I’m still going to KICK OUT all useless and shameless ratpublican party (R) next to their names on Nov 3. VOTE FOR BLUEΒ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈBIDEN/HARRIS 2020Β πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈΒ Β .πŸ’™πŸŒŠπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸŒŠπŸ’™.

    2. Robot Hunter I finally understood, Thomas Graham made me understand why “must” was best suited to the urgency of the moment, just like you.
      I am a little confused because I learned this in class, but since then I have forgotten.
      Getting back to Trump, I hope that despite all his machinations, he does not stay in power and that Joe Biden will be the next American president.
      Thanks again for your explanations, and take care of yourself!

    3. @SoCal Surfer16 ARE YOU SAYINF FASCIST TRUMP IS’NT SENILE HE CAN HARDLY WALK ALREADY HAD A STROKE 2 MONTHS AGO.

  2. So democrats cannot win by 1 vote, but republicans can lose by 3 million and still win? Sounds like a rigged system. Get rid of electoral college!

    1. Wait a decade or so and republicans won’t have a route to 270. AZ, GA & TX accoun for 69 votes this decade. All 3 are moving out of the red column. Their margins get thinner every cycle. IA was won by Trump by a higher margin than those 3 states in 2016. Trump won big for a recent Republican, he had a cushion of 36 votes above 270. There’s no way for Republicans to make up for a loss of 69 votes even if you pretended every state they won in 2016 was red going forward.

      It won’t be permanent but could change if Republicans reform and expand their base and wait for blue states to turn red. That would probably also take a decade or 2. The EC doesn’t permanently favour one party. It depends on demographic changes.

    2. Getting rid of electoral college is nr1 priority 😁 once gone it should be fairly impossible for Republicans to ever rule again πŸ˜†πŸ‘πŸ½πŸŒˆ

  3. Swing states will have a fatal impact on this election. They’ll turn off their cyber security & trash paper ballots. Republican controlled states are itching to switch our democracy to an autocracy. All of the” this cant happen in America” ppl need to wake up.

    1. 8gomerpyle22 You are wrong. Journalists tend to be liberal, because they are well-informed. The majority of local media outlet owners tend to be wealthy conservatives, like Murdoch and Ailes were, which is why they bought up the vast majority of local news outlets in this country – so that they could dictate their version of the news through these outlets.

    2. 8gomerpyle22 That Gomer Pyle moniker really fits you; you tend to get things backwards. If the DNC is so powerful, why’d they β€œlet” Trump get elected in the first place? The reason Republicans are weaker now is BECAUSE of Trump and his penchant for stuffing his foot into his mouth on a regular basis (hydroxychloroquine, ingesting disinfectants, children don’t get the virus, it will just go away, I don’t think science knows about climate change, if you get rid of mail-in ballots, I will win, – and those are just the monumentally stupid things he’s mentioned in the last month or so).

    3. @David Ramirez I totally agree. Unfortunately the media is a part of the problem. They’re more worried about keeping them as friends than holding them accountable.

    4. @Dolores Reynolds Thank you. We all have a job to do. We will most likely have a Belarus situation on our hands. So we definitely need to be ready for the worst.

    1. @Dave Schultz Are we ANTIFA or are we fascist? You can’t have it both ways. One actually means “Anti-Fascism”.

    2. @Tony Borzillo Hes working as a aid to Vladimir Putin, I bring him up because I wonder if he’s really the Grand orchestrator.but Germany didn’t sink into a CivilWar .it was the “Centrist” who were the deciding factor in Hitler being Chancellor.

    3. @Amala Kaiel When he Appointed Louis Dejoy to Sabatage the mailIn votes I knew he,Trump, was creating Chaos and Confusion to send the Elections to the Supreme Court.At lease in 2000 W BUSH wasn’t Responsible. whereas now its intentional

  4. So after Michael Cohen, Trump still have people to do his dirty works, when is this conman ever going to run out of gullible people?

    1. @Don Dalessandro Exactly , Because they will be sick or DEAD by then. That’s the only way they’ll see they have been mislead and Lied to from the beginning. Boggles the mind at how many Stupid people we really have in this country ! As well as in Government !

    2. You can get people to do/say what you want if you pay them enough. With Trump, it’s with taxpayer and/or GOP/donor money. If I had access to billions of $$’s, I could pay people to do/say anything for my benefit. It’s easier if you control the military.

  5. I thought the SCOTUS confirmed ‘faithless electors’ were illegal but they are asking legislatures to effectively be exactly that?

  6. Everyone on the other side of the aisle s been looking exhausted, lately.. keeping up with trump s deviousness has become nearly impossible

  7. Warned so many times about sweet talking a dictator. It don’t work. If this continues you will have a war or need a revolution πŸ–πŸ»πŸ€

    1. @Dee Dee who is they? We’re not going to stand by watching the few freedoms our families and ancestors have fought for over the years.

    2. @Stevie Blue they =military, would not be forced into taking sides if it comes down armed conflict. Like you plenty of folks will stand tall and am glad to hear it but still am truly worried for the US πŸ˜”

    3. @Dee Dee they are sworn to uphold the Constitution, the president comes second…. And the Constitution states the president has to win the election. If he doesn’t, the new president will take over on 1-20-21 at 12pm, and he will become the new commander in chief. The day after the infamous photo op when that General apologized, was a very important day. Oh and by the way, the top brass in the military aren’t happy with Trump to begin with.

  8. He’s gonna test and exploit every possible loophole and the GOP is helping him. They want to be like the oligarchs in Russia. They’ve forgotten who the real power is and the voting public needs to remind them.

  9. Get rid of this rigid electoral college. Everyone gets one vote and every vote is equal no matter where you live.

    1. Dear Joan Collins
      Will you marry me?

      Yours Truly

      King Donald

      DYNASTY IS BACK.

      HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS
      DONALD TRUMP WILL HITMOTISE & CONTROL the
      * US ARMY
      * US AIRFORCE
      * US NAVY
      * US POLICE
      * US PEOPLE
      with COVID MIND CONTROLLING VACCINES, SO THEY DEFEND HIS THRONE TILL HE DIES.

    2. @Texas patriot You don’t seem to understand. By feeding hundreds you are in essence contributing to trickle down. You have employees to help you generate and sell that food, correct? They are spending the money you provide for them. You are selling food. People buying your food are putting money back into the economy.
      I don’t know where in the heck you’re coming up with 72% on $400k, when it’s actually going to top out at 39.6%, or 2.5 percentage points higher than what it is currently.Β 
      You might want to look around for a new CPA, as well, since the top marginal income tax rate in the US is 37%.
      You are in the heartland, removed from the reality that the rest of us see on a daily basis. You are in a bubble. And this is why it is not fair that you are over-represented. Because your bubble is un-reflective of the majority. Be grateful you are in that bubble. We all hate paying taxes. My best advice to you is to get a new CPA. Kick some of your good fortune back to society. And maybe consider some new tax investments. Because you’re getting screwed.

    3. @Texas patriot ah, and you just showed your true, bigoted colors to me and the rest of youtube. If a transgendered person is teaching to kids “in drag” or whatever your bigoted comment was suggesting it is because that person went to college for 6+ years to earn a master’s degree in education and is, therefore, qualified to be employeed there. Not more rights, just equal rights…which is the point you are trying to make in your bigoted sort of way about the electoral college. Except the few, in the case of the electoral college, is getting a heavier weighted right. I thought you were really trying to make valid points until I realized you are just a bigot and not worth debating with…and so I’m out…✌

    4. @Zebra Zagadore I lumped all my different taxes together. I was being vauge so I dont tell all my buisness.
      I am self employed. I have subcontractors for my court reporting firm, and I let the FFA practice with my herd for record keeping, farm management, and beef production.
      I have about 200 head of cattle, no paid employees. (hobby, per se) but I’m DBAed for that so I claim it as a buisness since it could support me. I sell about 150 calves a year, and donate a few show calves when I can for the local show kids.
      My break down is 37% of income, plus 15% SS, and 3% medicare.
      I have subcontractors for court reporting firm, but same break down. I keep me and both buisness all separate.
      So I get what you’re saying, and the “income taxes” you stated are technically correct. But there are other taxes too that bring it up.
      And the Biden tax clearly states on his platform the tax hike for me. maybe I misread. I just know I will be in his bracket of a tax increase. He is adding additional 12.4% Old-Age, Survivors, (Social Security) income earned above 400k. And raising income tax to 40%.
      So 15+12+40+3 plus regulations and fees would be 70% in taxes.
      I have a great CPA, been with him for 20 years.
      Maybe I explained it right this time. Lol

    5. @Texas patriot Put 25% of your income into a Sep Ira. That will cancel out some of your tax loss. I know I know, it’s still painful. But guess what, when you come of age (and if you manage the Sep Ira correctly…unlike me…I wanna stick hahaha in here but it’s no laughing matter), you’ll be glad you saved during your peak earning years. I hear what you’re saying about the extra taxes — TRUST ME, I hear ya! I’m in the same boat. Just about all of us are. Between city, state, licensing taxes, permits, fees, property, blah, blah, blah — we’re all in it with you (at least those of us who own our own businesses). What can I say? You just gotta keep looking for tax dodges if it’s hitting you too hard. I swear, every year around July I gotta sit down with my cpa and give him my to-date P&L. He analyzes it and gets back to me…”Okay, this is how much you gotta spend before the end of the year.”
      But as for Biden/Harris, The Tax Foundation and The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget said their proposal tops out at 39.6% (2.5 percentage points for the good of the country, you know, something besides military).
      I like you. You seem like the sort of Ag person for whom I used to work to help secure federal renewable energy grants (yup freebies for rural folk for farm solar panels and the like) through the Oregon Trust.

  10. “When Fascism comes to America it will be humping the flag, have greasy fingers from eating fast food and have a very bad comb-over. “

  11. THE ARCHAIC ELECTORAL COLLEGE MUST GO!! It’s NOT a DEMOCRATIC system where the voices of the MAJORITY is IGNORED! ONE PERSON ONE VOTE!!

  12. Trump is acting like a corrupt dictator. I am sure Putin counselled him during their frequent calls and meetings. So we must deal with him like a corrupt dictator. He must be removed by force now.

    1. He’s learning so many lessons from Putin. Hopefully Democratic opponents won’t start dying from poisoned tea. Barr is probably already deciding how to jail them.

    2. Putin doesn’t need to say much to Trump, …Trump is doing Russia’s bidding above and beyond the call of duty. If anything, Putin is probably trying to tone down Trump’s idiocy.

    3. @Ken Albertsen Liking all of your comments,Ken,but this one blew me away! How can ANYONE tone down the asshat’s idiocy?? lol!! Keep up the good work!πŸ‘ #staysafe

  13. This i is absolutely frightening. This makes everything trump has done is strategic. This is the end of democracy

    1. It is frightening but by voting and helping others to vote you will make a huge statement.
      It is not trumptydumpty, he is much too stupid, rather likely Bill Barr who is evil in his intentions.

  14. This is why AG Barr always talk with his head down , he cannot face the people , because he is part f the plan to help trump cheat .

    1. Barr’s and Giulliani’s heads have been sucked down into their shoulders to ear level. They, and other’s around Trump, should be in prison or out to pasture.

    2. Both The Toad Barr and Turtle McConnell talk with their heads down to counterbalance their big lying πŸ€₯ a55es πŸ’©

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