Presidential historian Michael Beschloss and writer Susan Page join Morning Joe to discuss the lack of results from the Iowa caucuses and what it all means. Aired on 2/4/20.
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Historian Says Nothing Like This Moment In Past 50 Years | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Sander won last night and Biden bombed big.
Bootygeige claims he won! I think he actually did.
On a bright side , Trump won the republican caucus!
Someone is trying to steal the election
@Jessi Taran Never seen ANY evidence of what you say is true. Just people saying it over and over. The truth is more interesting.
Seth Rich took emails from the Hillary campaign. He was a Bernie supporter and saw how they screwed over Bernie and stole Podesta’s emails. I personally read those emails and found out how utterly corrupt and disgusting the Democrats really were.
If by Russia you mean Pete Buttigieg, I agree.
@Jessi Taran please continue taking your meds, when you stop you sound foolish.
Well Trump stole the election in 2016 and it didn’t seem to bother you. Why is it a problem now all of a sudden?
These panels show how out of touch with reality these people are. They have no idea what regular Americans are thinking.
@Steven Sweeden “No biggie..I would expect you to be acrimonious and off topic.”
Hmmm… do I know you? How did you come to that conclusion from a brief and neutral statement?
Regardless, I was not referring to the last election. Unfortunately I made an assumption that context would be enough.
@Rico Swave Do you know me? No most certainly not. I’m one of millions of commentators. Do you know any of the commentators you are contact with now? Why…this inference?
Yes I am sorry. You did correctly apply 2016 as a case study.
@elroy the great LOL! Trumpanzees! AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!
@Fairy Tale It has already started: Virginia, Kentucky, special election in Alabama… The cowards are just hiding behind their majority in the Senate, because they know that when the draft-dodger-in-chief will go down, they will go down, too.
@Steven Sweeden “No biggie.. *I would expect you to be* acrimonious and off topic.”
How could you expect me to be anything without previous knowledge of me?
Too bad they didn’t hire a competent IT company. Really the app didn’t work?
@kim clarke Whatever Hillobama shill .
Dont worry they’ll run energy and healthcare much better 🙄
It worked exactly as the DNC wanted. It crashed at just the right time. It created enough confusion that people will be paying attention to something else by the time we get the official results that Bernie was the winner. DNC would rather see Trump win in 2020 than have Bernie as the nominee
Pete Buttigieg payed of a lovely organization called SHADOW to create the app and rig the caucus. Everyone who cares about democracy should be outraged, I’m disappointed that Miss Warren doesn’t care, even if for a pragmatic reason – she shares electorate with Mayo Peter.
Just remember, democrats are smarter than the deplorable republicans, and will do it right next time.
We had an election yesterday and we don’t have any results none
WhiteKnightBetaCuck all parties should be outlawed.
S M Trump is a steaming turd but he’s not smart enough to have pulled this off.
@Gooey 911 barnum was wrong it is more like every thirty seconds. Fifteen if you vote democrat.
Anyone who thinks this Iowa debacle was bad……
wait til u see the November elections.
Our entire government is bought and paid for and corrupt.
Cut the name calling and disrespect……we are being cleverly divided.
Buckle up and bring your highest self.
@Mark bodman Yes! Many splits…
Joe still manages to avoid saying Bernie’s name even though he’s ahead
@Peg Williams Food for thought. What happened last time? what did you do last time? who did you vote for last time? who will you vote for when it happens again this time? Will it be the same party who manipulated you the last time?
What I did was #walkaway
Rico Swave I didn’t vote
I don’t want Trump to win. But I’m not going to vote for somebody who cheats and lies to get the nomination. OLD BOSS SAME AS THE NEW BOSS. I am counting on people to be less naive THAN 2016. Of course that might make myself naive.
@Peg Williams Thanks for the honest answer. I considered the same, but upon reflection i did the opposite and voted against my party as Hillary is a crazy scary psychopath and I realized the only way to keep her out of the office was to vote for the less crazy option. By doing nothing I realized I was doing nothing and thus enabling the same party who deceived and tried to manipulated me.
It seems they have not stopped and are happy to do the same again this cycle… and I will do the same again this cycle, not because I am a rep/trump supporter, but because I am not going to support this absolute crazy train the dnc has become.
I sincerely hope you vote this time, either way, but vote your conscience.
jeff mcgowan I think you might be over simplifying Trump. He does a lot of things behind the scenes that may come back to bite you. I hope you’re right. We can’t afford to let anybody in govt. off the hook. Don’t look the other way if your gut makes you feel something is shady. Not with dems or republicans. They are all capable of deception. The money and power can easily corrupt. The people need to hold their feet to the fire. THEY WORK FOR US. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THR UNDERSTAND AND FOLLOW THROUGH.
The only thing more predictable then Burnie getting screwed & Biden walking away smelling like rose shampoo was Epstein getting knocked off.
@Ilvy V.G.lmao!! this guy is clearly super rich and famous! the illuminati are the types that recruit on youtube and love using phone apps and give out their phone numbers just like tech support companies! because secret societies admit they exist all the time but stay secret somehow! any member can recruit who they want so even my dog can join! members get to be rich and famous too like the other famous illuminati members!?
smh…
americans are well educated! unlike idiots like you that have no idea how obvious they look! we learn how to use our language very well and we can spot fakes without any effort! you should find a new job because lies are not for you!
@Donny Banks yeah she’s also royalty and needs help to get her 💰. Lol
The Democrats need to root out the conspiracy nuts in their base who will either wittingly or unwittingly sabotage anything they try to do. They have a majority already, and they don’t need these peoples’ votes really–I think a lot of them are Trump supporters seeking to harm everybody as usual.
@Aviel Lu It’s true that CEOs and tycoons and their stooges in Republican politics would likely have a change of heart if they were bundled into an open wagon, dressed in their underwear, through a screaming crowd towards that bloody scaffold. Suddenly, they’d be all for a living wage and benefits for their employees, even health care and vacations. All of a sudden they’d be open to the idea of the public good and they wouldn’t need another tax cut windfall after all.
@Donny Banks You sound like you’re twelve years old. Worry about reality. You can spend time on your fantasies about secret conspiracies in cloud cuckooland some other time.
Well, at least The Constitution had a good Run!!!
@Large OOF that is correct, nothing in the constitution about it. George Washington warned about it
@Rob C yea…get used to the fact that most people are actually pretty dumb……it’s information that is gonna benefit you.
@Randy Smith Global capitalism has nothing to do with concepts of International Socialism. You are politically illiterate.
We have NEVER had a situation like this ever.
@Marcus Guzman I believe you may be confused? I’m not sure how you extracted “Communists Socialists” from “inept buffoons”, but I’ll assure you that after addressing a dictionary you “may” come to the conclusion that those words don’t mean what you think they mean.
Secondly, I’ll assume by your reference to the “cumtart jabba the hut is a Communist anti American sleaze bag”, that you are having marital issues? I’m at a a loss here… somebody help me out.
We have NEVER had a progressive STOMP AND HUMILIATE the corporate candidate they are trying to force down our throats in such a way and we are terrified to release the results.
Election rigging meets new technology.
@1911pasion You think this is somehow Trump’s fault????
@Beth Bartlett I am guilty of that. Usually after I post a comment. I do use snowflake Demtards so I sometimes bring on myself.
☎️ Thank you for calling. Currently, America is experiencing technical difficulties.
Please hold…..
😂😂😂😂😂😭😭
must be one of those crossed phone wires in India !!!!
Looking more like the Democrap “Carcass”🤣
What time is trumps state of the union address, so I can put in my movie, to watch instead.
John woos stranglehold fan You laugh, because you think it’s funny, right? Yet, tell me, do we know what really happened? No theories are too far fetched now, look how far we’ve come from the days when shame and guilt used to mean something! And the constitution used to carry such weight.
Here’s what the Democratic Party considers inconsistencies: people not wanting to vote for their establishment, corporate darling Joe Biden.
Not true fake news
@mightymissk we arent getting played again you go play a rigged game trump will destroy anyone but bernie I’m not going to let trump be my boogie man to scare me into voting for a corprate Democrat
@Glenn Carpenter absolutely not, people can’t let the DNC get away with rigging the election the second time. It’s not the same as Bernie losing fair and square – then you can vote blue no matter who, but you can’t let these people terrorize you, it’s how authoritarian regimes are born.
People indoctrinated by mainstream media have been brainwashed into partisan loyalty, but if you track voting records and policies, you’ll see how minute the differences between the corporate dems and Republicans are. How about earning the vote, rather than blackmailing you to do it?
Even if one of the establishment puppets is the nominee and somehow doesn’t lose (very unlikely to generate enough excitement when your philosophy is “we can’t have nice things” or “let’s go back to the same mistakes that created Trump!”), there will be another right wing demagogue, a true fascist waiting in line. You can’t escape it by going back to status quo.
WE CHOOSE CANDIDATES IN BACK ROOMS WHILE SMOKING CIGARS.
The DNC needs to be dismantled, the DNC needs to burn, the DNC needs to be eliminated. No honesty, no truth, no facts, while the DNC still operates.
WhiteKnightBetaCuck The RNC NEEDS TO DIE A SLOW, PAINFUL 💀 DEATH 💀
@Fairy Tale How do you justify the DNC back-stabbing Bernie a second time? The DNC would rather subvert your vote, then allow you to vote for Bernie. I don’t agree with Bernie, but I believe he should be allowed a level playing field
Lambert Lum Where did I say that?
I can hear the sound of the establishment trying to stamp out the Bernie fire…
@Internet Anonymity cringe
@Keaton Carlton Truth. It’s just a shame people are so stupid as to believe political rhetoric as reality. My guy has 5 mansions and has never done anything but work in politics. one of his homes is worth more than his lifetime earnings. Tax records reveal Trump paid more in taxes than this man, but you keep on believing whatever makes you feel morally superior to strangers there genius.
@Internet Anonymity Eum, he was a carpenter. And when you earn more you pay more taxes on it, almost all senators are more wealthy than him.
Terrible argument given Bernie’s campaign had their own independent app and record taking that actually worked.
The Fyre Festival went off smoother than this.
HAHAHA
I heard Pete B. Is in front of everyone. I don’t ever want to hear one word about Christianity again. The men and women of Iowa are corn fed hypocrites.
Best comment lol
Burning Man runs like clockwork compared to this fiasco. Plus it’s more fun.
“Technical glitch” more like ” realizing Biden is not a front runner”
@XWriter100 because “to human is err”
It is difficult to test a cell phone app for a caucus vote, unless you can get several hundred thousand people to get on their cell phones at the same time and see if they can all get access the website at the same time. It is a classic ‘Denial Of Service’ overload of the internet servers, this is understandable but they should have had a backup paper vote plan.
@WJ V finally someone with an educated comment
@WJ V yeah right, how’d you like to buy some stock in my water proof bread company ?
“Historian Says Nothing Like This Moment ….” Historian weighs in on current events.. So sanders didn’t win Iowa in 1886?
ThrobbinHood hes old
Bootygig: “I helped finance “Shadow” – the App that was absolutely needed to count 172,000 people in an open ballot system where they literally walk over to the table of the candidate they want. Unfortunately, it pooped it’s booty shorts…SO I WIN.”
💀💀💀💀💀
Not even… it just had to accept precinct totals… so it was at most hundreds (?) … and still failed because it was not sufficiently tested … EPIC FAIL
This is the future of your country, not a football game. Try to use English and stop being so vulgar.
@generationofswine How ironic 🙂 https://i.imgur.com/Z0bGOpD.png
Good job, Bernie won but the results don’t really matter because of “issues”.
@brian miller is this a joke?i did a bong rip and saw this and almost blew snot everywhere lmao bwaaaahhhhh
@American Statistic no joke look it up
The guy Bernie may be your guy but he will never be “the guy”
@American Statistic I’d suggest you do some independent research on anyone you consider to vote for as president whilst sober.
@trainwreck told ya Thanks, although any rational person does not have a choice.
When the deception and manipulation culminates with ones own party deliberately and overtly derailing their own candidates under a purported open democratic process, then to actively steer the outcome to a prescribed candidate, how is there any trust or respect remaining? I’m not even going to cite the audacious falsehoods of “free everything for everybody” one-upmanship of the current campaign charade. Why would one then continue to be used as a pawn for impudent ulterior motives?
The DNC did it in 2016, and it seems they may be at it again, and I for one am not going to waste my vote nor am I going to demure. I will vote for the best candidate, in my opinion, regardless of affiliation, who has the best chance of winning. If that means I have to vote for a lesser of two evils, then I will. I did it before and I will do it again.
The DNC had four years to clean up their act and learn from the last election cycle, but it seems they have become even more detached and isolated from constituents. They have also become more overt in their manipulation of the candidates.
Reality seems difficult for some, and denial welcome.
#walkaway
“ Looks like Joe dodged a bullet.” “Yes, Biden is the luckiest man in America today.”
Good grief, this says it all! Joes numbers were weak so the DNC crashed the whole thing.
Corruption.
Lol did you really think the DNC would let Bernie the red win???
@Dirk Diggler I just didn’t think they would be so in our faces with it, geez
@Dirk Diggler Bernie ‘the red’…..love it…thx