CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller joins Poppy Harlow and Don Lemon to discuss the surveillance operation that led to the arrest of Bryan Kohberger, the suspect in the killings of four Idaho college students. #CNN #News
Hear what law enforcement saw Idaho suspect doing in the days after killings
*Serial killers* have been around for a long time. They don’t need a *motive,* they’re sociopaths/psychopaths with *psychological issues*
@RODRICK COLBERT your moms a pathologist
this guy isn’t a serial killer.
He’s not a serial killer if he hasn’t killed before and hopefully he hasn’t..
Exactly….the 6 year old that shot his teacher. Smh
serial killers have motives lol some do it for gratification, envy, jealousy, depression, being slighted, an urge etc. It hasn’t been proven that he’s a serial killer either.
Motive isn’t always evident. The most difficult case to solve is generally one in which the perpetrator kills a complete stranger. This guys a criminal justice student. He knew that but apparently wasn’t as smart as he thought he was.
@AndrewP your funny
@Baz Mitch I was mainly makin fun of mainstream media painting him as a genius when the police released all the info about him.
@Steven Bennett funny but he is smart but very stupid
@legend Canibal Yes and they say half of America put him in a position to do so.
Nahh lol federal authorities never tell you everything. They have satellite drones now that can do facial recognition from thousands of miles away. And anything that is used by federal authorities during an investigation does not have to be revealed in court documents if a federal judge signs to not allow information to be released. Anything the fbi found or used to find they dont have to tell you because they dont want to risk the public knowing at all.
Seriously?!? Did you forget BTK? His first murder occurred when he was 28 and he killed 4 people in that house so, yes its unusual but not unheard of. BTK had a masters in criminology as well. Most serial killers from the 70’s and 80’s wouldn’t last a year with today’s forensics.
@Richard Dagger well, they still haven’t proved who he was, so ya, he’d have lasted.
BTK WAS KILLING FOR 30 YEARS BEFORE THEY CAUGHT HIM. HE WAS VERY SMART.
@Sara _66y🍃 💛Those have always been in the world Sara, a reading of history shows us that.
Yes, he was 28 when he murdered four members of the Otero Family, but doesn’t have a Master in Criminology. He only has a Bachelor of Science in Administration of Justice. He was a mediocre student. Interesting, that after the murders on November 13th, Kohberger turned 29 on November 21st. Just a week left of being 28, so you do wonder if he was running out of time, if he indeed was paralleling his life with that of BTK, who also has OCD.
@dRG that’s not true. At least 68% of cases get resolved
Nice. A rare instance of a domain expert speaking intelligently, succinctly, and usefully without interruption or showboating from the hosts. And nobody promoting a book!
Yes big bad John Miller is top notch
@小肉肉 Apparently he hates women regardless of their beaty status so that won’t mean anything to him.
Did don reinvent himself ? Better
Nobody promoting a book! Yessss but I het not for long. Soon enough everybody would be releasing a book about this and we need to read it to know more rather than them just saying it in 5 minutes.
Don’t forget about the Netflix documentary!
@Nilly K the German word Kohl actually means cabbage, coal is Kohle with an e that is pronounced, just to let u know~
Reading the affidavit broke my heart. They were all awake when he killed them. This creep stalked them for months. Unreal. RIP
@Sam Gibson How ridiculous! They didn’t “lie.” They released information on a need-to-know basis–and the general public had no need to know all of the details of an ongoing investigation.
That why the death penalty here be just
@Sam Gibson it was the coroner, not the police who said they were asleep. I think she may have wanted to believe that.
@Sam Gibson thank goodness they did
Kaylee and Xena were awake, at least after their stabbing started. Xena’s being awake and crying contributed to the roommates surviving. Not sure whether Maddie was asleep. Ethan was almost assuredly awake, tho not necessarily brightly. Agree the affidavit showed the crimes were even more traumatically horrific than we thought.
This is so bizarre I can’t believe someone could do this to these young people. And to find out he staked out since August watching them and they likely didn’t know unless they were on to something at least one of the young ladies thought/knew of a stalker I wonder if it was him. RIP so many questions praying for their family.
@Retired Engineer So he chose the party house of all places?? Pretty sure he knew who lived there
@Violetta Shearer 💡
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(Quran4:120) Satan makes promises to them and fills them with vain hopes, but whatever he promises them is merely delusion.
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Oh and he is VEGAN !!!
@Violetta Shearer 🙄 I outgrew quotes from that children’s novel. Charlotte’s Web 🕸 is a better book.
@Lixandru Dabija ya makes no sense at all.
The most important thing *isn’t* motive. It’s evidence.
You can’t compare. They are equally important depending on what you want to achieve. If you want to know the motive, great! You’re not a sociopath
@Tom Conlin In the trash bag perhaps?
@A.K. Emerson it’s human nature for us to demand answers. It’s not easy for us to process how anyone is capable of doing something like this. Their reasoning is often baffling regardless of our attempts to understand
Well if you already know without a “reasonable doubt” he did it. Or you think you know he did it. Then isn’t motive in a homicide case the most important aspect in sentencing?? Because you have to consider from a judicial point of view that in some states motive is what determines if a person is evil. In alot of states people walk away with SUBSTANTIALLY less time because of solely “MOTIVE” alone. Example:if you kill someone because it is fun to you thats your motive.
But if you killed them because you felt like they could potentially harm you or your family one day in a court of law realistically that can play a huge role in the sentencing outcome if proven. You hear of people committing homicides all the time and only getting 15 years because of the motive behind the act. Now granted thats in certain states and there are alot more factors that come into play, and also im aware this guy killed 4 people so his sentencing will be harsh regardless. But nonetheless MOTIVE my friend plays a HUGE role in a case. Especially homicide.
@peace4myheart motive determines sentencing severity. If the defense can prove he had a strong enough motive to commit an act, then determining on the state the sentencing can be drastically different if motive is proved in the defense’s favor. You can go from 25 to life in a homicide to a 10-15 if your defense is solid enough. But everything in a case is obviously circumstantial and once the feds get involved good luck but still motive plays a HUGEEEE role in the severity of sentencing so yes it very important
I don’t understand why the public feels like the detectives are supposed to tell them everything and compromise their investigation. Let them do their jobs!
@Serie Johnson never fails, it isn’t their family , they just nosey af
@Serie Johnson Yes you are.
Because it’s a lot more fun and exciting to talk about institutional failure and murderers running rampant in the country. Emotions like anger and panic travel much faster and farther than reasonable analysis and patience. That’s just the state of our relatively nascent Age of Instant Information.
Humans are not inherently truth-seeking machines, that is a skill that is learned and practiced and requires discipline. We are naturally pattern finding machines who look for safety, comfort, and things that confirm our personal biases and our personal understanding of the world.
Absolutely 💯. Right…LET the Law do their job. Definitely, can’t expose everything because it’s critical to solving the case!
@Tommy Lin I’d rather wait than watch “talking to the Idaho 4 through spirit box” or a tarot readers as a source of information lol
That release of the Elantra information was a shocker. It was like sounding the alarm bells in a suspect’s ears. As it turned out he drove the Elantra all the way to the safety of the parents’ home and gave it a real clean up. What the Elantra’s interiors might show up probably lost. Unless he’s overlooked some crucial parts of the car like the pedals.
@baby dollluv I fear the worst. The affidavit didn’t say they got his DNA too on any of the victims. I hope they do. There should be DNA on Kaylee’s intimate parts like face and mouth. This guy’s a pervert and let his urges run riot.
I heard the car was determined to be a non issue at one point. Just goes to show how info is not reliable on the internet.
@ccdm515 It wasn’t an issue , they released a statement saying they were looking for it. However, authorities already had Bryan’s name, license plate, and address at that point from campus security cameras and city CCTV footage tracking his movements. Because, no privacy in 2022 or 2023. 😂 or ever again 😂They released this info on reliable sources & articles now. He was already a suspect at that point, but they made the public believe they were searching for a white car.
@A S thanks I swear there was some info that said it was a dead lead. So I thought at one point it was just a car they saw that had no connection. To think, it was a really hot lead now.
@ccdm515 That’s an attempt to retract a mistake. At some point they realised they’re endangering evidence, the Elantra and what it contained inside.
This means that they have a lot more evidence that has yet to be revealed.
They do
For sure.
Selfies with the body
we sure hope they do. they need much better dna evidence than just a touch-dna on a button.
@Bob Hope Yep. I bet That’s why Dylan called her friends. Let’s all take pictures of my dead Roommates. Creepy AF.
I think it was his first murder, just for the fact he was sloppy. I think he got way over his head when he went in there thinking he would murder 1 person and had to end up killing 4. He left the knife case there and he left more evidence. Not as smart as he thought he was.
Maybe it was sloppy because he did not expect the other 2 people, E and K to be there. It through off all his planning.
I agree
I think for whatever reason Maddie was his target, that’s why the sheath was next to her, she was the first victim. Kaylee probably heard something (hence DM hearing her say “someone’s here”) then he kills her too. Then he goes downstairs to leave but sees xana walks by with her door dash order (delivered less than 5 minutes before his car was seen entering the area) and went to kill her too (explains why DM heard a male voice saying he would help her) then of course sees Ethan as well, killing him. He didn’t see DM as he was leaving which why she survived, and he likely didn’t know BF was downstairs. I think your right, first murder, only meant to attack one but ended up attacking 4, left the sheath because of Kaylee surprising him, and then xana and Ethan next. DM is lucky to be alive!
He was watching the house he knew who was in there sad RIP
@SDA 💜 100% he knew who would likely be in the house after spending all this time surveilling it. He might’ve had his preferred target(s), but he was ready to harm as many as he could.
Don Lemon – you never fail to “dumb-down” the discussion. Proving motive is not necessary in any case.
Glad to hear they are going back through other cases to see if if he was involved
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Yes good point raises by big bad John Miller
Good in a way but bad to the point if convinced it may delay the execution by a few years to see if they stack evidence in PA they will want to try to get a confection that may or may not happen
@Ben Caldwell so Idaho is pursuing this as a death penalty case?
@PASTAFARIANS, UNITE! ya, of course. why wouldn’t they?
Piece by piece, they got him. Praying for the Families to get the Justice they deserve.
Because he made it very easy for them.
Look, these police and detectives r next level they knew shortly after the murders who did it they let him believe he was good and they stacked their evidence…… amazing job
Yes
‘Zactly…
This is some kind of a different approach to police work. The details of this case was kept under tight raps for the security and safety of the case. excellent police work.
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That’s how it should be! Public don’t have to know every damn thing no matter how “curious” we are.
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I agree
I had the same exact thought. This guy has done this before. He was stalking them. Watching their routines. You don’t just follow people for a month and then kill four people in one day. Sadly, I believe he’s done this before. His eyes give me the creeps.
I agree crime expert last week swicker thinks he has murdered before
Yes, his eyes give me the creeps. That is a devil’s eyes.
At first glance he (sort of) looks like Ted Bundy.
Nicely done, John Miller! Articulate, concise, objective reporting without sensationalism. I appreciate that. 😊
I live in a gated community in the Poconos too. The fascinating part is that if the cops were doing surveillance outside his house they were either inside a neighbor’s home or in the woods. Most likely in the woods, because the houses are pretty far apart around here and a strange car in a neighbor’s driveway would easily be spotted. We literally have no car traffic at all at night. Its pitch black outside.
If they were outside in the woods, this was right around the arctic blast that we had around the holidays.
Major props to them and job well done. 👏 👏 ❤