Engel: Despite Peaceful Rhetoric, Taliban Hasn’t Changed

Richard Engel, NBC News chief foreign correspondent, talks with Rachel Maddow about the essential character of the Taliban that cannot be concealed by diplomatic rhetoric as they take over Afghanistan, and whether there is anyone among the Afghan people who would stand up and resist the Taliban takeover. 
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46 comments

  1. There was once a scorpion who wished to travel to the other side of a river.

    The scorpion asked a frog for help. He told the frog that if he gave him a ride across the river on his back, he would be rewarded.

    The frog protested, fearing the scorpion would sting him. The scorpion assured the frog that he would not sting him or they would both drown in the river.

    The frog agreed, but halfway across the river the scorpion stung him. The frog was mortally wounded and they both sank to the bottom of the river and perished.

    1. Breaking news! LGBQT and BLM flag safety evacuated from United States Embassy in Afghanistan and was delivered to Sleepy Joe at Camp David.. .

    2. @Louie Ruiz shouldn’t you be watching flat earth videos while you snack on tide pods? Maybe look into Jewish space lasers and cannibal democrats. 🤦‍♂️

    1. Sounds like a GQP/trump tactic…..they say what the people want to hear….they do what they want to do….the only difference is that the Afghan people knows it’s bs and are trying to get as far away as possible from their corrupt cult

  2. And you expected them to be different now than they where. Political parties don’t change they stay the same the thing that changes is how they word what they do

    1. Political parties don’t change unless you need that as a convenient truth for covering up 100+ years of the most brutal racism. Then you make up a huge lie to tell your people that the political parties decided to switch platforms….and the stupid populous believes it.

  3. The Taliban did not defeat the United States. The Taliban defeated Afghanistan.
    BTW. A sexually suggestive picture for the Taliban is two grown women, barefaced and clad in jeans and t-shirts eating cookies.

    1. Funny, I just thought you were referencing Matt Gaetz and the party of Grand Ole Perverts at the end but couldn’t be- you implied two GROWN women…

  4. The only reason the Taliban still exists is the support they get from Pakistan. In the end that is who defeated the west in Afghanistan. As for the Taliban, you can count on extensive lists of people they will either imprison or execute in the coming months. This is going to get very ugly indeed.

    1. Indeed. Also worth remembering that the US in the 1980s (Reagan Bush years) knowingly allowed Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons in exchange for their funneling of weapons to the mujahideen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, the predecessor to the Taliban. We reap as we sow.

    2. @Mark Robinowitz We also look the other way when the Pakistani ISI launches terror attacks into Kashmir and India.

  5. In 2018, Trump got Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar released from prison.

    In 2020, Trump’s Secretary of State met with Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar.

    In 2021, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar is set to become the President of Afghanistan under Taliban rule.

    1. His Qult members won’t acknowledge these facts but instead will deflect with ‘but whatabout Obama’s middle name being Hussein?!’.

    1. @peziki the taliban eg mujahideen has always been consistent in their goal, installing shaia law, sunni Saudi Arabia style.

  6. Biden put it in context: Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires. Thát is factual and spot on. And so US and allies should get out. Soon the tribes will turn on each other.

    1. @toshiba mike2 stop making your nation important. Afghanistan has brought empires on their knees during its entire history. The UK is irrelevant today, it started becoming irrelevant long ago. Soon there will be no more UK. Accept, adapt, move on in humbleness.

    2. @toshiba mike2 China first. Road & Belt, debt-for- equity, 1 trillion worth of raw materials ready for exploitation, as long as Taliban keep other islamists in check and don’t interfere in Xinjiang cleansing. Russia comes second. China will be leading. They don’t give a f*ck about the internal crap in Afghanistan.

    1. @J Ross Maybe i would have been wise NOT TO INVADE a foreign country in order to raise the weapon stock for already rich a$$holes

  7. It’s easy to identify the cowardly leaders abroad. We have cowardly leaders domestically after 2 impeachments, a legal election and an inserection. What memo didn’t the Republican party understand or is fear greater than integrity

    1. Republicans can’t spell itegration. Iteration. Integration. Tegrity. Integrity. Well something like that. Or irony.

  8. Sadly, Engel seems to be perfectly right. When Allah gives victory to his followers, who is to say that what they believe and do is wrong?

  9. The Afghan army sided with the taliban all along.Deep in their hearts they yearned for the good old days when they could buy and sell women. They handed over our weapons and made nice with the taliban the moment usa pulled out.

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