Dr. Theresa Cullen, public health director for Pima County, Arizona, talks with Rachel Maddow about the shocking rate of increase in new cases in her county and the mitigation measures being taken given limited options and scarce hospital bed space. Aired on 7/8/2020.
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Desperate Measures In Arizona As COVID-19 Overwhelms Hospitals | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
Trump is literally killing americans by insisting to do it his way. How long will congress and the senate continue to allow this to go on?
@janeen harris No Janeen the opposite if I was unclear. We need to shut all area down and smother the virus. Hot spot shut downs can only happen when we have some baseline control but right now we have 38/50 states that are on the rise.
@Antonio Bennett, we agree on something. Lockdown is the only tool we have that works. We’re in stage 3 lockdown, with seriously affected places in hard lockdown. It should improve things dramatically. We have nothing compared to the US, but best to put out the embers while you can.
@MrDaChicken there’s not much that can be done about it legally. Yes, tens of thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands more will die between now and january. No that’s not good at all, it breaks my heart. More will die if we enter a civil war after a coup. There aren’t any good options, just degrees of bad ones. Vote him out in November. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a stroke or something between now and then as amped as he always is. I don’t know what else to tell you. Good luck.
@janeen harris In fact the State of Victoria is now isolated from the rest of Australia with police roadblocks on all roads out of Victoria
@J . P Goodwin, I know. I live in Melbourne. If we have to stay home for 6 weeks we have to do it. It’s really only the media that’s complaining. It’s fairly conservative here and they criticise the lockdown mercilessly.
New York: Let our suffering and pain be a warning and lesson to other states in America.
Arizona: Sorry! Can’t hear you over the sound of loud signing in this cramped megachurch!
Corona: Ugh, I hate this song. 😕 Let’s get this over with.
Arizona: Who said that?!? 😳
@Dementia Joe Fingers this is being a cry baby to you? Lol then dont look at the Republican party, your mind might be blown at the sight of their constant victim mentality
TRUMP 2020 you democrats:
https://youtu.be/moZtoMP7HAA
@TogerThe Tigerking COVID-19 agrees with you.. exponential growths is the best and Trump voters are a petri dish!
who put sick people with virus in with the elderly in NY?
Ro G – I’d like to add one more to your list: When Arizona asks ‘who said that?’ trump answers ‘nobody….just look away’
Nothing will get better as long as Trump is in office
@Hector Perez I don’t believe that is accurate. The collateral deaths caused by diverting medical staff to attend to Covid cases and subsequently expending resources is not accounted for in the data. I think you should provide a link to support your comment.
I can see there quite a few comments saying this pandemic is a hoax. Most of the reporting in the media and seeing the responses from multiple state governors publicly enact saftey measures is what we all are focused on. What I am now seeing is the Pentagon quietly issue directives to personnel on U.S. military bases. I believe a base in Texas has ordered a lockdown. If the readiness of the U.S. military is in jeopardy because of the spread of the virus we all will be in trouble.
tecums3h
Try social distancing as a blind person. I have no choice but to hold handrails, feel for door handles etc. I can’t see how close other people are. I have to rely on others to respect my space. Imagine how well that works
@Andrew Mac Testing has nothing to do with who will actually die from CV19. There us no treatment if you get tested and are positive. Symptom treatment
And it will still be a long slow road back. He has Destroyed the Country.
I really do not understand why interstate travel is still allowed. States with all kind of different regulations and a missing federal strategy.
@real american soooo how you know if that person is on food stamps or any assistance at all? And a travel ban xan take form of … you can travel so long as you test negative and have proof and tested at periodic intervals. And there is no federal anything with this pandemic. Thats why GOVENORS are working together and coming up with own plans. Trump has made his position VERY VERY clear… he has no idea what he doing. He just sits on his most beautiful throne and says do this or that …. or I will cut your funding. No plan.. no ideas…just…i want it done. CDC comes out with plan for school openings..he says do it over cause it is to much effort and cost too much. Just how much is your child’s life worth? Trump is in over his head. And instead of listening to the SCIENCE and FACTS.. he just doubles down on stupidity. Stupid is as stupid does.
@real american however… imma give u a benefit of doubt…please. Tell me the Federal plan currently in place to deal with Corona-19.
You Don’t Understand? really? your joking right?
Tell me about it, I live in New England and I don’t want anyone who’s not living here to even drive through!! We’re doing great up here….the rest of the US? not so much….
Kia Ora E Hoa. I live in Canada and just recently the east coast opened up to travel from one province to another. Everywhere else in Canada we cannot travel to another province!
The scary part of this pandemic is that the further we get the worse it is getting. If you have a mild case of Covid-19 you are likely to have brain damage or lung damage and the list is growing.
@Kermit T. Frog cool, change your story now that I brought facts about MRIs into the conversation…😂😂😂
@Some Person You are nuts.
@Kermit T. Frog were you just waiting for my reply? No one told you to fail to troll me, no one told you to multi reply out of rage, and no one told you to be such a pathetic loser. All of those things were choices, and you made them snowflake…😂😂😂
Not likely dude no one EVER said it’s likely you will have brain damage or lung damage
@Chick Hixs hahaha
my sister retired in january. she was a nurse and went back to help. she is now dead. they are all killers. vote em out, lock’em up.
I’m very sorry for this.
My deepest sympathy for your bitter loss. At least she died in a good cause doing right. May your grief be short and soon replaced by worthy pride at having such a loving and brave sister. Resquiat en pax.
Oh I’m so sorry. It makes me so angry how foolish and arrogant some people have been. Thinking they are invincible and refusing to wear masks. It’s awful. Sorry for your loss.
mta so sorry for your loss
Please accept our sincere condolences
What happens if someone who has lost their job presents at a hospital and is diagnosed positive? What happens if they are presented with an estimate of costs which they simply can”t afford? Do they just go home and die? A government’s first obligation is to provide what the people need… not build billion-dollar walls or spend trillions of dollars on militarising the police. Trump’s priorities are all wrong.
@real american Yes that’s true but looking at what the bill will be many will choose to go home. No one wants to bankrupt their family over huge medical costs. Free medical care for all is how it should be. You pay extra for supplementary care like private rooms, dental, etc. This is how most Western countries approach health care. Lower costs for all through taxes this is proven to work cheaper than USA system.
@D Ntodo,
I agree with your assessment, but sadly it’s what “We the people” as it appears in the US, has decided they WANT their government to act. Without the massive wave of reality denying strongly christian anti-science Governors around, Trump’s similar WH administration would not have gone anywhere with it’s denial tactics. Without the spineless partyline toeing Senate, it would have been over months ago with a necessary law covering all thsoe problems, just like most European nations, AU/NZ and Canada covered it.
Elections have consequences and the consequence of Tea Party “winnings” in the past 10, 15 years is that now America is caught in a Death Spiral of Incompetency and doctrine driven reality-denial… *One Nation,* suffering *under god’s* chosen “best” politicians.
@real american And bill is a jacked up absurdly. You pay a grand for something we pay 0. You get charged a house for one trip to hospital. So you go bankrupt and your life is still over. And yes. Its pandemic so lots of people dont have jobs. Not because they’re “lazy”.
Sadly some people will die at home for fear of medical Bill’s, when they need not have died at all. And they won’t even be counted as a COVID-19 death to add insult to injury.
Over 1 Million Americans file bankruptcy each Year because of Medical Bills and loss of work time due to illness which they can’t get back on their feet financially after.
Even upper middle income can lose everything with just 1 major illness.
Yet the mentality of America regarding COVID-19 is that it is ok if people get it, even though it forces people to place Russian roulette with their Lives, their long term health and their financial wellbeing also long term.
@Tunaburn A bill that will never be collected on. This is one of the reasons our health care is so costly, we use a sham system to distribute health care and then another sham system to pay for that health care. Hospitals can’t eat those un-recoverable costs for ever, so that is why a $0.50 aspirin delivered to you in a hospital is billed as $100. You pay for those who can’t, not by taxes, but by over billing cost and insurance companies covering those costs. It is socialized medicine that works badly, costs too much, makes liars out of good people, and serves the citizens of this country badly.
But no, no one can be turned away from emergency room treatment. One of the few good things Ronald Reagan actually enacted.
And yet so many Americans still scream that its a scam.
Gertjan Schaatsbergen unless everyone does exactly the same thing, possibly yes, but there’s still all those fools NOT USING MASKS. Those are the ones spreading and killing. I’ve two close friends who did everything to stay safe, they’re dead. Why ? Until trump does something to keep America safe we will continue to die, he will not take covid seriously, refuses to allot money to the states for more safety measures. Masks should be mandated to each state by the WH.
@Michael Sweeney Please lean to spell. It’s important to learn correct English, no matter how short a time you have been in our country.
@TheMercilessEye Agreed.
Like Arizonan MAGA supporters.
Not the dead ones!
Maybe you need to stop hosting big indoor rallies.
@James Bond Hey racist, nope.
Attending churches, bars and hairdressers indoors without a mask is high risk vs protesting outdoors with a mask is low risk.
Health experts have stated that outdoor protesting is low risk, vs, indoor gatherings are high risk.
Try some critical thinking, if you can. A very small number of people protested compared to the number of people emerging from lockdown.
Attending a protest in the open air is low risk from covid19 as compared to resuming sharing space with people indoors with recycled air conditioning, and touching common objects like lift buttons, door handles and elevator rails.
Try some critical thinking mate, if you can
@Nor Dic yep. If you like Trump you spread covid. If you support BLM you don’t. Thanks for the lesson in critical thinking.
duh
I Sent an email to our governor Ducey asking him to not allow Trump to hold a rally here, but did he care? NO! Just another Republican that drank the grape Koolaide.
But then how will idiots worship their fatted calf?
So a RED state is sending its sick people to California? SMH
@Okkie Trooy that USA died in the 90s when Newt told republicans to play dirty in any way they could, then around 2016 a bunch of us were done always taking the high road and decided if they want to fight dirty we can too. I’m sorry you’re trying to believe in a bygone era, but republicans have said for decades “our way or else” and we’ve reached the point of or else and they’re backing down like the uneducated cowards they are. The wanted to go low, so we kicked them. Find someone who cares about your BS, because it’s time to stop republicans from destroying our country yet again…
@TogerThe Tigerking oh looky another moron on the internet.
lolololol WOW
We’re all people, not politicians. Thank God goodness has not died in everyone. Thank God there are people out there that see people, not politics.
@David Willis 100%👏🏼🙌🏼
I dont know what world trump is living in the virus is still here and getting worse he thinks it’s gone he is so incompetent
Shelly Tattnall Our POTUS is mentally ill, and his fan base just follows him like he is God. My caregiver thinks the whole emergency will disappear once the election is held! I wear a mask, she will not. This Pandemic is dividing this country in a most dangerous way. I live in Pima County, AZ, and I am scared. Please send up some prayers for everyone dealing directly with CoVid19 here and across the world. I have already said my good-byes to those I love. I have an auto immune disease. I also have a cat who needs me. What do we do with our pets while we are in some hospital, somewhere?
He knows it’s not gone, but it is inconvenient to his perception of himself so he is ignoring it. I don’t necessarily blame the initial wave on him, but his absolute refusal to do anything constructive at the federal level leaves him squarely to blame for just about everything since May.
@Mary Jane Magee prayers for everyone STAY SAFE
Trumps response or lack of an appropriate response and his absurd ideas to respond, should be considered criminal.
At first it was just dereliction of duty, but it quickly became that intentional doubling-down we too often see from POS-pOTUS. That is criminal. GOP complicit.
He wasn’t that good in ‘The Apprentice’ either!
Macdonald Maurice
You should watch some shows about inside information on the apprentice, it was never Donald Trump making those decisions the exact for making those decisions Trump literally just made deals to pitch his brands and all his BS fraudster grifter ideas,
Lack of appropriate response ? Are you high ? Trump has been all over this, saved thousands of lives , maybe yours Bradley . You are welcome.
real american
Blind as a mole in coal, absurdity on display,Not even going to try to change your cultist mind because it won’t happen, you will be shunned back under your proverbial rock sir, and it will be priceless
This is what you get, when everybody tells you… Do not touch the flames, you will burn yourself. And you, like … NAH, It will be fine 😀 You have been warned 😉
yes china did lie to america about the virus, they no big deal its safe your ok!!
No surprise. Another red state that refused to recognize and heed the warning from experts and other states that got hit early.
California is a blue state and we are starting to do really bad these past 3 weeks.
Governor cares but People don’t.
From young to old, no masks at all outside in my large apartment complex
We were getting 3-6 new cases per day but now almost 100 daily and still people just don’t care
And now they are ready to open school these Republican governors are all guilty of murdering their citizens just to try and get the president reelected.
CLAY WHITELOW what I would be all for is to first get the situation under control, then develop a plan how to deal with the reopening. Many, I mean many, countries passed hurdle one and have started reopening. Sometimes schools first, this has not had an impact on cases in those countries. Kids under twelve appear to have very little impact and do not seem to infect adults if they get it. Simplified statement but still. That being when the infections are pretty low. Now they struggle with mostly smaller eruptions. The US utterly flunked getting past the first hurdle unfortunately. If only the virus would respond to bullshitting and gaslighting. Then the US and Brazil would be in so much better shape.
My daughter is a Catholic school teacher here in Michigan with two young children . She told me told me just this morning kids must get back to school . They can not learn as effective remotely and need the social interaction.
I’m sure you must of been drunk when typed your message. When you sober up you are going to be embarrassed you said Republicans are murdering citizens .
That is just so insane you Clay . Maybe try an AA meeting .
This is the Nastiest and Deadliest Presidential election
COVID-19 and Riots
We need Independent Candidates
Who give a care about the American People, not just about winning an election.
I don’t believe either party can Unite America it has gotten so out of hand
So does homicidal narcissism cross the line for invoking the 25th Ammendment. That would include Pence too…
Pence would have to be the one to invoke it, and that will never happen.
wickednwyld but if he is equally “impaired” (as I believe his drunkenness on power exhibits) then who decides?
The corrupt Trump cabinet?
They are happily grifting whilst Rome burns…
This is incredible. How can any nation that has that amount of resources be that stupid?
@Hector Perez Who is stupid? The one who makes a mistake and admits it or the ones who point fingers and do the same exact thing *after* the fact?
It’s Spelled. REPUBLICAN. say way you spell traitor.
It is actually relatively simple. Spend Billions and Billions in overseas wars and militarism, Spend Billions and Billions to make wealthy companies and individuals even wealthier, Spend decades demonizing and belittling knowledge and learning as ‘elitism’ to deflect anger from being directed at the wealthy, and finally spend less and less each year on education while watering down standards and handcuffing the brightest students to the dumbest. Voila!!…. American Unexceptionalism in a nut shell.
@Michael Beelby *Voilà
@Shin Thank you… A stringed instrument wouldn’t have made much sense there would it? Sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain spells out the words.. lol
Before this is over, Trump will have killed more Americans than all of America’s enemies in history combined.
you mean America’s OTHER enemies, right?
If America doesn’t care, why should I??
@Dementia Joe Fingers fake teeth? blahahaha they are funny looking lol
More than killed by enemys external and internal, I foubt it. I thonk of avaidable by design, road deaths, and not counting deaths by poor gun laws, or of first Americans in the landmass of the USA. There were millions of them killed by diseases brought in and not treated.
AND HE did not DO it alone the entire Republican Party is complicit
Two people are responsible for this: governor Doug Ducey and the president. Our governor just had to brown nose Trump and open up early without mask mandates. I wish I didn’t live here.
Michael Lopez Things keep going the way they are, you won’t be “living” anywhere.
I live in California where the Governor cares, But the People Don’t.
Even though we have mask mandates people won’t wear them. Not even the elderly. They are giving a very bad example, it is not just the young people.
Now we have a Retirement Home that has been hit for the 1st time in this pandemic.
It is sad that so many people are so selfish, spoiled and heartless in America.
Ridiculous and true!!
Having some states lock down and some states not locked down is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.
Your Nanna I was thinking something similar, like having smoking and nonsmoking sections in a plane lol
Perfect analogy. Plus a good laugh which I needed desperately.
Your Nanna : great analogy Nanna! ❤️
I know….wasn’t that Absolutely Stupid?? The Average lay person could have told our leaders….this is NOT a good Idea but because all the Fox news Host followed Trump’s lead insisting this was a Democrat Hoax look at what has happened? Now it’s hard to roll this back in fact it’s impossible….because NO ONE will do another shut down so people will just have to continue to Die or be seriously ill.
@justsaying Fox News hosts should be charged with culpable homicide