On the 75th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima, author Lesley M.M. Blume joins Morning Joe to discuss her new book 'Fallout: The Hiroshima Cover-Up and the Reporter Who Revealed It to the World.' Aired on 08/06/2020.
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Book Follows Reporter Who Uncovered Hiroshima Cover-Up | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Using weapons of mass destruction against a civilian population, twice.
The worst event in human history…THAT IS A FACT !!!!
@Casey Mays ..except for Russian election of Donald Trump and the end of 250 years of American Democratic Republic
That’s what happens when you attack Pearl Harbor and refuse to surrender.
War sucks . People die in War . Don’t want people to die , don’t do War .
How hard is that to understand ?
@rustydog0329 Pretty much. Three generations later, the kids are all right.
Regardless of how the United States likes to point fingers at other countries, we remain the only nation on earth to detonate a Nuclear bomb on a major city. (Twice).
🙁
@john emeigh
Oh, you’re done alright, you just haven’t realized it.
@Tiger Tiger
Over 160,000 dead from an eight month old viral pandemic and still no strategy to deal with it.
The USA is the greatest failure in modern history.
We didn’t have a choice. You liberals like to judge about things you know nothing about. Read some history.
Tiger Tiger I think the point of the discussion is that we should not become the same as the evils we face. Brutally repressed people versus atomised civilians is not a call anyone should have to make.
The effect of those two bombs is the reason no one else has done it
Remember the time America almost launched nukes at a hurricane to stop it from hitting the US?
@Google User
Virtually all from both sides supported the nuclear weapons programs.
Here is part of a more recent article and it is the Republicans blocking the minimizing of nuclear weapons.
In September 1996, President Clinton became the first world leader to sign the CTBT, which prohibits “any nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion.” One year later he submitted the treaty to the Senate for its advice and consent. However, Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC), whose Foreign Relations Committee has jurisdiction over treaties, repeatedly stated that the CTBT was a low-priority item and that it would only receive consideration after the committee had voted on two unrelated sets of agreements not yet submitted by the administration: the 1997 amendments to the ABM Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol on climate change.
This logjam persisted for almost two years until July 1999, when all 45 Democratic senators signed a letter urging Helms to conduct hearings on the CTBT and report it to the full Senate for debate. (See ACT, July/August 1999.) When Helms snubbed the request, Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) threatened to hold up Senate business unless the treaty received floor consideration. “This is going to be a tough place to run if you do not decide to bring this issue to the floor of the Senate and give us the opportunity to debate [the CTBT],” he warned on September 8.
Confident that the Republicans already had the votes to defeat the treaty, Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) called for a quick vote—a move that surprised the Democrats and most observers. Forced to choose between a vote after limited debate or no vote at all until the next Congress, the Democratic leadership, in consultation with the White House, reluctantly agreed to Lott’s proposal. On October 1, a unanimous consent agreement was reached under which the Senate would bypass the Foreign Relations Committee and vote on the CTBT on October 12 after just 18 hours of floor debate. Under the terms of the agreement, the Republican and Democratic leaderships were each permitted to introduce only one amendment to the resolution of ratification, thereby curtailing the administration’s ability to craft a resolution that could have addressed the stated concerns of some senators.
@Grim Reefer that’s what happens when you invade america, bomb pearl harbor… yep
Ah, but, you see, hurricanes are caused by NASA’s HAARP program, interfering with the ionosphere as an experimental method of reducing the population, so the Deep State wouldn’t allow any hurricane nuking as it would mess up the results.
Get with the prgram!
@Sterling Pound
I am hoping this is sarcasm. Otherwise you are NUTS!
@Sterling Pound Show proof to support your lie. WITHOUT PROOF, IT’S JUST A LIE.
I thought Nuclear weapons were only used to combat Hurricanes? 🤔
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This sounds like a job for the Space Force.
Tremendous tremendous
You forgot to add
SIGNED: Bunker Donnie
This is a good one!
It was a great book we read in school, but it was interesting reading it a second time as an adult.
John Hersey and the recently late Bill Paxton could have been brothers…… from looks
That topic deserved more discussion time.
All night tonight @ kpfk.org midnight to 6 a.m. ‘Roy of Hollywood’
Or Letters and Politics KPFA podcast w Mitch Jesserich
We are forever grateful to the veterans who ended WWII. My own dad was in training to fight in Japan when the war ended.
One thing that bothers me about some comments is some people find discussion as something horrible. Whether one agrees or disagrees with an author’s conclusion one shouldn’t be afraid to discuss serious claims. (Non serious ideas like the world is flat should be ignored as a waste of time.)
Many Americans would never know the cruel fact that many young Japanese girls including small infants who survived the nuclear bomb explosions were “collected by the US military medical officers” into some camps as “the research subjects” and were “manipulated” by the military soldiers as the girls were ripped away the clothing and naked in front of the soldiers. Some girls survived even those cruel “treatment, not medical treatment, but predatory treatment” and left their notes of their experiences. Those notes were hidden from the public eyes, as one of the girls who survived to be living there confessed to some news reporter.
So sad
An amazing book that helped launch the anti-nuclear movement. I’ll never forget reading how people became just shadows. Not just “giant firecrackers” like Stable Genius thinks. By the way isn’t it time to put the Genius back in his Stable?
Something amazing about the survivors in Hiroshima is that Japanese, especially Hiroshima people would never hate America. The survivors would convey their own sad stories down to the generations, through families and schools, telling children not to hate America but the war itself. Today, the Hiroshima children are expressing their desire to “help others” not hate, and to pursue the peace in the world. The hatred would create the war-like sentiment. They learned that. The Hiroshima children have created “senba zuru” =the chain of thousands of paper-folded birds” to dedicate to the memorial monument in the city. We should learn to love others, not to hate others.
that is beautiful.
You perhaps aren’t aware that even in America there was revulsion at the use of the atom bomb on civilian targets. The end of the war was welcomed, but many Americans were appalled by what our military had done. The firebombing of Tokyo and other civilian targets wasn’t as dramatic, but it certainly caused as much human misery.
As for Japanese not “blaming” the US for the war, well, good for them for seeing the truth that it was their own aggressiveness and eagerness for conquest which brought this destruction to their homeland.
@omi god Your opinion is yours, not ours. And, such an opinion is really what the Hiroshima Children were taught not to have. And it was not because Japanese people knew they were to blame, No. You should have been there, in the middle of the city, when the “firestorm” happened. It was not about the war, or which country vs which country. I know about the Pearl Harbor, and maybe Hiroshima was targetted as the US retaliation. But what they learned is not to point fingers, not to retaliate. what is important was to keep discussions, to keep a sentiment of “helping”, to try to pursue the solution without any use of such destructive, deadly force. The past is the past. It was sad, but what I wanted to tell you is that no one should use violent force BEFORE discussing and debating and brainstom to try to reach some kind of agreement… I know I am maybe naive, but, from what I have seen the way Trump reacted, such a quick reaction to attack and blame others wouldn’t bring any positive consequence. The CAUSE was always in the HATRED, at that time, and even now.
@omi god I would advise against portraying an entire society like everybody was exactly like the Imperial Army who was largely responsible for the propaganda forced upon the civilians, control of the government, and most of the war crimes committed. They refused the Potsdam declaration despite the emperor being ready to surrender, which is the direct reason why the US dropped the bomb.
The second in command of the Manhattan project said that the bomb never should have been used, and the Japanese leaders in the bunker for the final meetings with the emperor knew that the military would sacrifice every man, woman, and child in the defense of the country. The military thought that if they could get Stalin to talk Truman out of it, they could survive (they were fools to the end, of course). This is a far more complex history than what most classrooms tell.
@M Murase Of course you’re right. The people are not identical to those who hold power over them. Otherwise I would have to accept blame for Donald Trump, which is a terrible thought.
A few weeks ago, on YouTube, I saw a quilt story of a Japanese woman about the nuclear bombs and her own personal family experience. It was very powerful how she transferred in onto fabric.😭
Can you link that video here. I would like to see it.
I have always thought it was unnecessary to drop one bomb let alone two. It looked as though it was a test of the bomb. I think they used the people of the cities as test subjects for years. Shame.
What happened in Japan was an experiment. Back in the fifties when the British were testing nuclear bombs in the Pacific. They used members of the New Zealand Navy as Guinea pigs. When a bomb was scheduled to be detonated, a NZ navy ship would be stationed near by. The crew were ordered to strip to the wait and look directly at the blooming mushroom cloud. The men developed cancer and their children were born with birth defects and also developed cancers. The French also ran these experiments on Polynesian civilians in their pacific territories. It’s why New Zealand went nuclear free in the eighties. This human experimentation happened all over the world.
@Leonie Romanes
*What happened in Japan was an experiment.* ——- Well, there was also a little thing called World War II at the time.
You need put things in proper perspective. You need to consider the projected Japanese casualties in the event the Allies had to invade the Japanese islands, not only in the invasion itself, but also the combined total of all the additional cities which would have been firebombed before and during the invasion. I do not know if you have any living relatives who lived through WWII, but you could ask them their opinions. The world was tired of war by 1945 and this ended it quickly. The Italians realised they had a lost cause and surrendered, the Germans and Japanese should have too.
In the nineteen seventies the book was taught in Canadian high schools. Imagine anyone doing that today. Not only is the truth on the endangered species list but people willing to hear it are as well.
Some one need to write a book about how USA will never answer for war crimes they committed.
Today, you are not living in a country rulled by Nazi Germany or the Empire of Japan. From the USA, you are welcome.
*I READ A BOOK BY A BRITISH POW* just outside Hiroshima at the time of the bomb, it was incredibly eye-opening. He talked of “The Magical People” walking about sparkling from head to toe
it was millions of tiny fragments of glass that had been embedded in their blackened skin. He talked about how silent it was, no one was screaming cos no one could, their throats had been burned out. And everyone was deaf anyway…
The world is still holding its breathe.
Anyone remember…Sadako and the Thousand Paper Cranes? : )
coincidental this is being discussed during the same week that Israel nuked Beirut?