As the January 6 hearing continues, CNN's Jake Tapper examines whether the "American experiment," a phrase coined in the New-York Daily Tribune in 1860, can withstand the current political atmosphere. #CNN #News
Analysis: 245 years later, has the ‘American experiment’ begun to fail?
‘Begin’ to fall? The GQP has been laboring at setting things up to chip away people’s rights for 40+ years. What is happening now is the payout of a rather quite long game.
@Felwinter You want it born?? Fine! Then YOU are financially and legally responsible for it, from the moment of conception dude!! Women don’t get pregnant alone!
@Ninja Cat no it’s not really
@Gina Hill why does the man have to be solely responsible for the child? I thought women wanted equality. that means half the bills
In a world marked by profound class divisions & social inequality, to talk about “democracy”…..without talking about the class nature of that democracy & which class it serves—is meaningless, & worse. So long as society is divided into classes, there can be no ‘democracy for all’: one class or another will rule, & it will uphold & promote that kind of democracy which serves its interests and goals. The question is: which class will rule and whether its rule, and its system of democracy, will serve the continuation, or the eventual abolition, of class divisions and the corresponding relations of exploitation, oppression and inequality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ6G05WKfac
its finally here
There will always be classes of ppl in all societys, that being said an equal society will treat the “lowest” the same as they do their “highest” I live in a very good society but it’s still not perfect and we have a bit of the problems that most of not all countries have and I don’t think we will ever get to a point where we are all truly equal , I’m a pessimist by nature but I would love to be proven wrong
fantasy land touch gras
I don’t believe there ever has been or ever will be a classless society. Someone is always going to be faster or slower, smarter or less intelligent, richer or poorer, etc. And someone will turn that into a differentiator of some kind, etc. But as someone else said, if there is a mutual commitment to acting justly and respectfully across those differences, you can make those “classes” (groupings, whatever they may be) less significant in an adverse way.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
This is how countries and empires fall. From within. America will be no different. It will go the way of Rome one day.
It’s not just the Supreme Court.
Minority rule has been in place for quite some time by using undemocratic means such as gerrymandering and the ridiculously antiquated electoral college.
That along with the Senate where rural states have as much as a 50 to 1 weighting vs populous states and you can plainly see the faults around which it will collapse.
@Teutonic Nordwind Wow, so much projection. It’s the 21st century dude, no need to be fragile about your sexuality. As for “investigating” you, it was 2 clicks in 2 seconds, what the hell do you think an investigation is?!?
@Ike&Ike We are not a democratic republic. We are a Constitutional Federal Republic. Secondly, they were not picked by Governers, that were picked by state legislatures where they got their instructions on how to vote on issues We have proportional representation in the House. In the Senate, every sate has an equal voice so that one state can not overpower others
History repeats itself. Nothing last forever and we might be at the end of it road if we don’t take care of it.
@TheMarlinspike Britain is technically hundreds of thousands if not millions of years old. Britain is NOT a country, its a Landmass, United Kingdom is a country, here il give you a quote from the encyclopedia:
Great Britain is not a country; it’s a landmass. It is known as ‘Great’ because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores.
@TheMarlinspike america is millions of years old too! the usa is 200 years old! because america isnt a country its a landmass.
@TheMarlinspike honest quest, do most americans think Great Britain is a country? really? ok United kingdom is the country. and the union is made up of three countries in a union. hense united kingom. Great Britain is the landmass, but to be more specific it refers to the main island of the British Isles. think of it like this England is a Country in the united kingdom on the Island of Great Britain, in the British Isles. Country, Country, landmass, Island chain 🙂
Actually history is important and valuable tool for intelligent people so it doesn’t repeat itself. It’s idiots who forget, ignore, hide, and even reweight lessons of the past, don’t learn from them and end up making even worse mistakes. It’s more likely that history rhymes with itself.
As Benjamin Franklin told us: “….. a republic IF you can keep it!” He had serious and well-founded doubts.
@Fritter Foof that is correct.
@Andy Dahl Even though they line up with his principles more than any group? yeah right
@J R where were you when the Colorado Christian baker was being “criminalized?”🤔
Some facts to ponder:
US Ranks Globally :
15th on The Human Freedom Index
42nd for Press Freedom
126th for access to Civil Justice
83rd on the Child Flourishing scale
26th for Women’s Health
That’s just a few. The US is the least free, least educated, least healthy country among the G7 with the largest wealth gap and no signs of improving any time soon. The US delusion has caused so many to think they are living in the freest country that the entire world admired. Like some movie or sitcom where everything is shiny and new. It ain’t.
@soothsayer what’s not true?
#1 military. There is no other place I would want to live.
@Jason K. Incarnation ??? You’ve had a previous existence ? As who/what/when ? Your visits to 28 countries doesn’t seem to have broadened your horizons much. You think all official bodies in the world lie about something like prison statistics ? [except the USA of course where everybody tells the truth, that’s nuts.]
Also, bad example picking Scotland to make a false point as I have lived here all my life and what you say is not true. Of course we have cameras in city centres to prevent or help solve crimes, doesn’t America ?
You guys have a good system of laws, your problem isn’t the laws on the books, it is in fact a lack of accountability for the people who hold office and take the oath.
Not just that political parties are a terrible idea on paper and in real life. What do you think would happen when you have two teams
For example, whiny Ted Cruz
Last fight https://youtu.be/pq9yyaZ25YI
At the end of the day, most of our problems are still economic. Until we stop treating shareholders and corporations as more important than people, we will continue to spiral.
@Billy SBC You do not understand what total failure looks like, you think you do, but you don’t. if you did, you would be doing what I do and trying to warn humans every single chance you get in every way you can think of.
@breno
Yeah man, you just a major prophet of modern times… Why don’t you go talk to a therapist about it instead of bothering the nice people on youtube, okay?
@Billy SBC Case in point, unwillingness to listen, that will not help you. You do not know who I am, yet you dismiss me even though I tell you things you need to hear, that will not help your country.
@breno
Get some help prophet of doom…
@charles caldwell Important? Yes. More important than livable wages, sufficient health care and a roof over people’s heads? No.
“Perhaps America never was discovered. I would say it had merely been detected” – Wilde
Historically, every society that destroyed its middle class has collapsed. Russia did it twice. China had the “Mandate From Heaven” that caused all the various dynasties to evolve. Corporate America is sending us to a dangerous precipice. Our current inflation issues and wealth inequalities have us moving in a very wrong direction I’m sad to say.
@Numinous20111 You don’t have to have “equality of opportunity”. Just more POLITICS OF ENVY. If someone has wealthy parents to send them to a prestigious university, good for them. Obviously they have easier opportunity than someone who has to put themselves through college. I have no college degree but have built something for myself and my family, a second home and nice little nest egg. And I was raised poor. Point is if you want better, opportunity is there. But not for the lazy.
@Sonny Fong I wish I could agree with your assessment. For me thats exactly where I was for many years. Especially back when democrats still understood “essential services” and were very interested in serving the majority, being what once was the middle class. The old labor movement, not what its become, and definitely not fighting every tiny special interest groups underdog issues. It has been a close race, even when I felt like I had to vote at times against my own best interests for the greater good. But now, for me, I feel like the Democratic party has left me. My values haven’t changed but theirs have, a great deal.
@Teutonic Nordwind I agree with about 90% of your comments, but you have missed an important issue. One that obviously has slipped by you because you don’t possess it. But, Greed does exist and it exists on many levels by some very evil people. And if you think that its a fair playing field by any stretch of the imagination and that this isn’t anything that we as a people should have an interest in improving upon. Then you’re far more delusional than the rest of your comments would lead one to believe. You obviously have a solid work ethic and have used that successfully to your advantage. Something many people lack today. But all things are not equal and yes, never will be. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t strive for better on the whole. It’s a legitimate issue that the other side will continue to take advantage of if there’s never any legitimate resistance.
At the time the union was formed there was a sort of “un-written” policy called “Noblesse Oblige”. It basically meant that the “noble” or privileged, had a responsibility to act with generosity and kindness to those less privileged. Although they put MANY safeguards in place to try and ensure that greedy tyrants couldn’t assume total control, the idea was that the majority of people, especially those elected to high office would be good, decent law-abiding citizens. There was little thought of entire swaths of DISGUSTING people, simply undermining the rule of law through sheer stupidity, hatred (of things they don’t or are incapable of understanding) and ignorance. Who could have foreseen a WAVE of stupidity such as we are seeing today? A visit to a “Trump rally” is a walk through an insane asylum catering only to fascists. IF we survive as a nation it will be because the decent people in this country band together, REALIZE the genuine THREAT and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
@John Hastings and yet thats a historically important time to recognize. Few forms of government have remained in tact beyond this time or age as it were. Institutional memory has been exhausted and the memories of what brought our forefathers together are all but forgotten for the most part. The passion that lead them here no longer exists and many selfish interests have replaced the old ones. This is common throughout history for most forms of government. They either change directions, are replaced or overthrown. The only constant in the universe…
@Enfys you keep using the phrase “free for everyone”! That is a complete misrepresentation of the truth! I agree that capitalism is often abused by the greedy. And America is a great example of this. But it wasn’t always this way. Less than 100 years ago the people of the USA understood what “essential services” were needed in many cases and taxpayers funded many areas of life like emergency services, fire, law enforcement, ambulance service, prisons, the military industrial complex, energy and even telephone services for access to emergency services. Things that have since been stripped from government and sold off to the greedy corporate interests that were all to eager to “invest” in business where the infrastructure was already built on taxpayers backs. This was a relatively slow progression of corruption that has since allowed the corporate takeover of many of those essential services including our so called health care system and its supportive racket in the form of health insurance. Not to mention the even more corrupt practices of big pharma. Which are at the very least equal in greed and corruption at the cost of human suffering. While your system may make sense from the ethical point of view to a greater degree. Its far from perfect and very far from free. Much less free for everyone. Need I say more?
@Shane Best I find it amazing that you can spell authenticity. Even more that you think you understand it’s meaning.
@Tom Armstrong wahhhhh…..and that’s allll ya got….
@Shane Best”wha that’s all you got”? – Wha” that’s all YOU got?
The US has failed because it’s failed to invest in it’s people in regard to health, education and civic cohesion. In terms of human development the US is barely a 2nd world country, but yeah, it’s still the best when it comes to organized industrial scale greed, inequality and violence. USA..USA..USA..
@Apog’s Malcontents I am from the US and reside in Quebec. Much better place than the US.
@Kal El democracy elsewhere? How delightfully naive.
@CHRIS SCHNEIDERS if they release the innocent ones,(long overdue) that would make a huge difference in that perspective
@Piccalilli Pit It is collapsing.
The American Constitution of 1788 is fatally flawed because it is impossible to correct its flaws and anachronisms by amendment in the face of an energized minority of, roughly, 30% of the population when they live in rural states and districts which are over-represented in both houses of Congress. That’s exactly what the problem was in 1861-65. The [first] Civil War gave the country an opportunity to make major amendments to the Constitution only because the confederate states were excluded from the process, and were forced to ratify the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. Today the United States are fracturing again with no prospect of a peaceful resolution because the Constitution doesn’t allow it. Either states like California, Texas and New York should be split up or else states with hardly any population like Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Nebraska and the Dakota’s should be merged, so that there is some reasonable relationship between population and representation in the Senate. The right of all citizens to vote should be stated explicitly in the Constitution. Gerrymandering should be expressly prohibited in the Constitution. Proportional representation or some kind of ranked prederence voting should be provided for in the Constitution so that it is possible for there to be more than two parties representing a broader range of views. The Electoral College needs to be abolished. Judges should not have lifetime tenure. DC and Puerto Rico should have statehood. On and on it goes, but none of this can happen because an entrenched minority is determined to hold onto its power, like the slave owners of the old South. Our Constitution was a great achievement for a new country in the 1780s, but it was written by men, not angels or divinely inspired prophets. They wore the blinders of their age, their sex (male) race (white) and class (wealthy) and they couldn’t think of everything that might happen in the next 235 years. Give them a last hurrah, and then let’s get busy writing a new Constitution. Except we can’t, because the old Constitution has tied our hands. Sadly, the only way this can be fixed is through a complete collapse and civil war. That wouldn’t be necessary if our Constitution works, but it doesn’t.
Good luck with that Civil War. A one sided affair that would be lol.
@Justin VanDenBos
#1 error in war repeated ad nauseum, throughout history and throughout the world . . .
Underestimate the resolve of the enemy.
Look only to 1861 to figure that out.
Or, 2022 in Ukraine.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
Not all that is legal is good. Not all good can a law be written for.
The ‘American Experiment’ has always been precarious. The quality of this country (or any country) is only as great as the quality of its citizens.
@bars lars Education?
Indeed but how many very bright kids missed out on a scholarship education?
@Ross Kneebone You mean bright kids that because of monetary or societal reasons never got higher education?
Pretty much exactly what the Founders, Franklin chief among them, said.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
@bars lars In a way.
It started falling decades ago. It’s just more visible now. Could be argued it started failing when we allowed Reconstruction to fail. Hatred is a cancer that consumed from within… consumed that much faster when paired with entitlement & pride.
Was it ever really a success? Your place in this country depends on your color, the contents of your wallet, and what you’ve got beneath the belt.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
Had the Immigration Act of 1924 stood, America would be doing just fine.
When seeking perfection . . . failure is inevitable. Unattainable goals are mention to keep us perpetually involved in the pursuit of a common goal. WE NEED TO LEARN FROM OUR FAILURES.
I believe that the failure is going to be when those responsible are ultimately not held accountable.
@ST7A Bad Karma To be held accountable means that they would be forced to take responsibility for their actions.
@RoadTripA1A accountable for what? A court making a decision you don’t agree with? How dare they! 🤦🏻
@Marjohn’s Musings just like Joe Biden’s views on integration and abortion, a judges opinion can change over time.
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When many politicians constantly break the “no one is above the law” law.