A political backlash against companies that criticized voting laws shows the GOP doesn’t understand commerce, writes Roger Altman in a new piece for the Financial Times. Altman, deputy US Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, joins Morning Joe to discuss.
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A Schism Opens Between U.S. Business And Republicans | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Good luck winning elections without donors, Republicans.
We will keep winning on the left with state sponsored elections. Or, our TV’s will keep winning at least.
All you need is dominion machines
Unfortunately they have plenty of millionaire/billionaire donors, including many who have stake in these very companies, as well as media & others….
@robin volpi Donors don’t win elections… votes do. But with even less donors, they’ll have a very hard time of it.
Mitch to business: Shut your mouth send your money
Trump to followers: check your brain at the door and keep sending the involuntary reoccurring charges.
Exactly! 🙄
Everyone’s gangster until the “free market” does what the free market does
EXactly
@Luis Boqcas Nice try on describing this era, but it does not fly. I will keep the description of how nuts we have become, pure climate poppycock
I think we’re all on the same page here, Luis, yeah, what corporations are doing makes sense, and google user, yeah, having to use corporate influence to bully republican lawmakers to do the right thing is kinda bonkers, I think where we defer is our attitudes, I’m sorry to say after four years of… 🤷🏼♀️ Whatever that was, I’m feeling rather cynical. I’m not proud of it but yeah, I’m exhausted, so I’m looking at this from a more clinical view point it feels like the only way to stay sane
@Eduardo Villagomez I believe more in professional cepticism that cynicism, it is more constructive but understand where you are coming from. On a side note, America is a country that works because of the private sector, culturally government was always smaller in America than other countries if you exclude security/defense and that is what explains the fact that nothing getting done by government does not impact more the American economy.
However, the world is facing 4 challenges today that I do not believe that can be overturned only by the private sector, specially because the incentives are not there even if corporates try to become more socially responsible. Those crisis are i) income disparaty, ii) polarisation, iii) lack of trust in institutions and iv) tecnhological disruption. America has a worse scenario than most at least on i, ii and iii.
@Google User This was enabled by Mitch McConnell and his party on the topic of corporate money in politics. They’ve created a monster that they can’t control. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Too bad.
McConnell (R) needs to stay out of Big Businesses.
Moscow Mitch needs to crawl back into his crypt and stay there.
Mitch is so corrupt he is owned by big business ?!!!
And POLITICS
Pauline Quick
so do the Democrats. In face both parties, WOKE, BLM, well you mane them, they need to stay out. Big and small businesses
Are you kidding? He is a wholly owned subsidiary of Big Business. He is their thoroughly bribed servant.
You can’t say that corporations are people and then deny them the right to have opinions.
@Bat Boy You lose sight of there can be no trust of the LEFT and since I am 67, I would say the rest of my life
@Sam Harris – Sorry that when you look at people, or have debates, you only understand them on the bases of the political ideology (left or right). Some bad thinking there, for “Sam Harris”.
Emsley Wyatt. Sure you can. Just look at the Democrat’s WOKE community
@T.A. ACKERMAN love it! Great idea.
@H K S makes perfectly good sense!
As a child decades ago, I can remember people saying things like “don’t mix business with politics” “don’t mix religion with politics” “don’t bring race into politics” and over that time I’ve watched Republicans insert each into the mix in a desperate attempt to maintain hold on power and the corrupting influence they’ve had. You and other Republicans brought this upon yourselves Mitch. Time to pay the piper.
@feldspar hoobyshoob wasn’t talking about that. You said I have no content because of my profile picture. Therefore I stated then you’re the same….
@feldspar hoobyshoob I don’t care if you think me a troll. Your opinion doesn’t matter in this discussion.
@DoMi also the OP was the one who brought up race…
Minority rule is a desperate thing. GOP has hung on and now hung their hat on trump. They are climbing up their own a-hole as fast as they can. The rest of the world is starting to laugh at the GOP and massive hatred against them is building.
My dad would tell me repeatedly when I was a kid to “respect the opinions and beliefs of others”. I was taught to avoid political disputes, religious discussions with unlike-minded people. I was taught that my belief system was mine alone, and not to infringe on those of others.
Fast forward to 5 years ago, when that same father engaged in an argument with a stranger in the grocery store when the stranger supposedly “sneered” at my dad’s “white lives matter” shirt and his “MAGA” hat with the cross on it. Personal responsibility and respect has been hurled out the window along with integrity and truth. Make no mistake, the right ring whacko who are spearheading this war on truth and assault on equality are the evangelical Christians. It is because they want a theocracy, not a democracy. They feel their “power” slipping and they’re terrified, so they’re compromising everything they once supposedly stood for. It is disgusting.
Mitch disliking corporate money and influence it’s like a fish disliking water. I mean it’s literally the environment he swims in and which provides him his life. Corporate interests own Mitch
I STOPPED BUYIING COKE PRODUCTS AND FLYING AND GOING TO BASEBALL GAMES BECAUSE OF THESE RADICAL COMPANY’S INTERFERRENCE IN POLITICS…THEY ARE DEAD TO ME AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS AS WELL…COKE IS ALREADY BACKING DOWN AND DELTA AIRLINES IS ABOUT TO GO BELLY UP BANKRUPT, SO THEY JUST CUT THEIR OWN BOTTOM LINE….I HOPE ALL THESE BUSINESSES GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND LEAVE THESE CEOS OF A DEAD COMPANY…SMH
AS FOR BASEBALL…IT IS NO LONGER AMERICA’S PASTTIME…THEY’VE RESTRICTED IT OUT BEING WORTH WATCHING…
@BUBBA JIM <-- trollboi here clearly isn't getting new updates from his masters. 😂😂😂
@Zaphod Beeblebrox The trolls are very dumb, they wear a sign telling us who they are.
@Zaphod Beeblebrox I ONLY HAVE ONE MASTER…GOD HIMSELF…AND I DON’T NEED UPDATES…THE BIBLE HOLDS EVERY TRUTH MANKIND WILL EVER NEED…YOU NEED TO GET SAVED VERY SOON NOW, CAUSE THE TRIBULATION UNDER THE ANTICHRIST IS KNOCKING ON AMERICA’S DOOR RIGHT NOW…SMH
@BUBBA JIM why not go further and live off grid… one things for sure tho.. we wont miss you😁🤣
That “a bunch of corporate CEO’s” might ignore Moscow Mitch makes me hopeful.
Plez, at the end of the day businesses, fearful of tax hike, will cave and return to rethugs
I definitely like the sound of that.
Don’t this country has gone down the moral tubes
I’m still flabbergasted when I see Mitch McConnell telling CEOs to butt out of politics. LMAO.
Same. I have definitely walked into an alternate reality. lol
I wish I could laugh..instead I am angrier at the hipocracy..
😅😅 he says stay out of politics but keep sending us 💰. 😅
We will boycott any business who supports that law. and with online shopping we have plenty of options to get our goods elsewhere
No Corporation besides “My Pillow” wants to be associated with Jim Crow 2.0.
81 million people and other notables have a civilian right to be vastly wrong, but me if I had the power it would be that twitter, etc.. are not a publisher, they are a utility. Phone companies don’t suppress my calls over stance on issues
Say coca cola is a different story, if they want to go rogue in values ok, as long as they don’t break the law
BAHAHAHA..🤣
It’s not that—no corporation wants to be told what to do by people who work for them
@Sam Harris A utility,..hahaha
The GOP has a lot of nerve going out of their way to get corporations the same rights as individuals until they demand accountability and then they turn on then!
Turn on “then”?
Corporations are people too (until they disagree with rethuglicans).
??
The MAGA crowd doesn’t understand how not just business has changed, but the entire nation as a whole. They still want to believe we live in the 1950s.
@goodbodha lol, I would disagree with you on a lot I voted for HW as a lesser of 2 evils in 1989. But because he stabbed us in the back, and in 1992 they called us disloyal when we backed Pat Buchanan. I left the GOP and voted 3rd party mostly Libertarian ever since, hated McCain think he was a POS , hated Romney, wish Romney rots in the 9 the plane of Dante’s Inferno. I am fundamentally a populist and oppose anyone who is part of the warmongering Liberal Establishment.
@Alex Hamilton
Why don’t you take your condescending tone and you tell us all about it, tell us what we should know about millennials, big business and the current Trumpublican party moving forward through the 21st century!?!
@Kryptonarie 63 Well, according to T A Ackerman the Democrats know it all. LOL
@Zaphod Beeblebrox You owe me.for the privilege to grace my PC with your silly reply
@goodbodha when the Democrats were in control in the South?
OMG, Joe let Mika finish without interrupting her.
I’ve been asking for that many years now. He can’t help himself. I sometimes wonder what she sees in him. Maybe it’s a dominance thing that she finds attractive. Doesn’t matter; it’s their relationship.
Poor Mika rarely gets to “finish”.
She married a republican.
Their motto is “me first, screw you”.
A lot of guys are guilty of this.
@Virginia Moss Or, she ha a rent boy on the side and that’s how she tolerates him.
@Zaphod Beeblebrox Like I said, it’s their relationship, their business. For me his interruptions are an annoying distraction which detracts from the program. I don’t watch it much anymore.
Moscow Mitch: “Don’t pick sides in these big fights.”
Translation: “Don’t pick sides in these big fights, if you do not pick my side.”
“…but please continue to give donations to our party..”
Ted Cruz openly admitted in an Op-ed that if a company donates enough to him he does what they want. He bragged of being a swamp monster…
@E E How gross and sad ..plus unAmerican is that..
@katy bassett Ted is gross from every direction. Canada’s loss was our punishment for allowing him so much power.
I guess it’s time for Mitch to advocate the refusal of all corporate monetary support by congressmen …. to keep the corporations from getting involved with politics!
Corporations take sides all the time. The only novel thing is that they’re on the right side this time.
Kind of false I would say. Normally business is business, but the division caused by the left is just vast
Yes, they tend to be on the winning side whenever they can .
@Sam Harris I disagree with you Sam. The division is caused by the ant-American and anti-democratic behavior of Trump and the majority of Republicans.
The GQP has become the party that bites the hand that feeds them. 🐕
Good point .
Joey Martin No kidding… they have bitten the hands of the Tax Payers so much that we just yell instead of disciplining them.
Joey Martin
true. They don’t have spine enough to pull together and fight the Democrats. as a unit. They have too many RINO’s whose hatred for Trump has turned them to the dark side 😀 The voters will let those know it in 2022
You don’t mind them when you get their donations.
Or they back your political campaigns
“Dear money, please don’t pick sides in politics. We need politics to make some people powerful so the less powerful people need to work for the money!”
danieldeelite
unless you have a pandemic then you don’t need money to help you win
Yes. Companies did say they will stop supporting candidates that supported Jan 6, but a few weeks later when no one was looking, they started again. Corporations are all talk when everyone is looking. We need to be always looking and never stop.