Trump Lawyers Tiptoe Around Details Of Trump Hold On Ukraine Aid | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow remark on the awkward reluctance of Donald Trump's lawyers to answer when Donald Trump ordered the hold on aid to Ukraine and when he called off the hold. Aired on 01/29/20.
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Trump Lawyers Tiptoe Around Details Of Trump Hold On Ukraine Aid | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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  1. Today, Lev Parnas sounded just like every former cult member after they finally broke away from cults like Jonestown, the Branch Davidian, and Scientology.

    The Republican party has been replaced by a cult known as Trumpism. It’s a cult rooted in lies, absurdities, wild conspiracy theories, self-deception, hypocrisy, pathological ignorance, self-righteous bigotry, doublespeak, and blind dogmatic obedience to the “Chosen One.”

    Psychiatrist Robert Jay Lifton, who once taught at Harvard Medical School, wrote a paper titled Cult Formation in the early 1980s. He delineated  primary characteristics, which are the most common features shared by destructive cults, destructive cults like Trumpism..

    1. A charismatic leader, who increasingly becomes an object of worship as the general principles that may have originally sustained the group lose power. That is a living leader, who has no meaningful accountability and becomes the single most defining element of the group and its source of power and authority.

    2. A process of indoctrination or education is in use that can be seen as coercive persuasion or thought reform commonly called “brainwashing”.

    The culmination of this process can be seen by members of the group often doing things that are not in their own best interest, but consistently in the best interest of its leader.

    3. The exploitation of group members by the leader and the ruling members.

    Here are 10 warning signs of a potentially unsafe group or leader.

    • Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.

    • No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.

    • No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget or expenses, such as an independently audited financial statement.

    • Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.

    • There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.

    • Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.

    • There are records, books, news articles, or broadcast reports that document the abuses of the group/leader.

    • Followers feel they can never be “good enough”.

    • The group/leader is always right.

    • The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing “truth” or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is acceptable or credible.

    As we’ve all seen,  when it comes to the warning signs and characteristics of a cult, Trump and his followers check most of the boxes..

    1. David J
      Yeah listening to the guy who was recently indicted. He can’t even go into the senate cause of his ankle bracelet. You like to do your research, if you want a real scandal, search up Biden burisma

    2. Jesus Christ. You lefties are so far gone that it’s not even funny anymore. I despise the MSM for what they have done to the people.

    3. @Logan McLean Whataboutism at it’s worst. You trump* cultists have no defense for your criminal leader.

    4. John Goldsworthy
      If you spent the time to actually research the Biden burisma case. You’d realize it’s way worse. You’ll learn in time. Then you realize trump had legitimate reasons to withhold aid

  2. Let us remember that even though the hold was lifted in September, there was still $35,000,000 not delivered by Christmas, and $20,000,00 was still not there by the New Year. Last I heard, there was still $1-2,000,000 still missing. So the whole no harm- no foul nonsense is as bogus as everything else about this White House.

  3. Trump supposedly withheld the Aid because he was so concerned about corruption in Ukraine. However, he somehow forgot to tell the Ukrainians he was withholding the money and how they could prove themselves worthy of getting it released!!!

    He also forgot his LEGAL obligation to tell Congress the legit reason that he was holding up the Congressionally approved Aid!!!

    How does it make any sense whatsoever to hold up giving them our aid because you think other countries aren’t paying Ukraine enough?!? Seriously? It would take two seconds to find out how much they were paying. How many countries did we ask to pay more?!? Why was it released if NOTHING changed?!?

  4. Trump has gone through life with no accountability ,now impeachment trial hopefully will put a stop to his thinking that he is untouchable , trump is not above the law

  5. Mitt Romney? That’s ole pierre delecto. Mitt Romney was caught using the alias pierre delecto talking to underage girls. Looks like Mormonism knows no boundaries.

  6. If Trump gets off then every criminal in America should have such leniency as well. I mean really can you argue against them having incredible leniency such as that which we are seeing applied to Trump?

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  8. What difference does it make, you have no power to stop them. They work for their 1% masters, the donors that line their pockets with millions. As bill barr stated in Congress, “I’m going to die.” He knows where he is going,do you? The only question left now is, are you going to jump into your owner’s grinder; or walk away and let the beast system die? youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A You should watch it all, but at least @ 8:23, you’ll see the start of phase 2; this is where we are today.

  9. these little snippets of information are absolutely infuriating. sometimes the “commercials” are longer than the clip. MSNBC please give us more continuity of context!!

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