@Mike Morgan Yes. This was seen as an extreme conspiracy theory and a “selfish” demand not that long ago. Now there’s a lot of people who agree with the sentiment after having defended mandates and vaccination for years. When not even China can keep the spread of this flu to a minimum and when not even its citizens can take it, you know that there’s something wrong with the virus prevention approach.
These protesters may be totally brutally suppressed I am afraid.
So sad.
When I was a medical student in Pakistan in 1969 we protested against the dictators general Ayyub Khan and they came looking for me and I had go underground for months.
Later I escaped to the USA. Pakistan fell apart 1971 when I went back to participate in the liberation war for Bangladesh which was East Pakistan.
Hope China can break out of their chain from their despot and dictators. Sad.
Regards to the Chinese people.
You may be correct, but what has changed DRASTICALLY since the time frame you described, is the modern connectivity of the civilian population with the internet and the proliferation of cell phones. THAT alone has to be scaring those still wielding power in the current regime. Add to that the pandemic crackdown, the massive loss of work and a declining economy, (not to mention the mortgage default of the Chinese housing behemoth) and you have a HUGE difference from 1969 to now. I think the Communists could be in serious trouble, and they may not be able to contain this rage that the PEOPLE are displaying! China may be in for a long, hard and painful road, and desperate despots often act in a brutal manner, but I’m not so sure they can contain this one if it goes on much longer.
All I know is that Fauci tried to emulate the CCP and now he’s being sued. A lot of parallels going on as Fauci’s 7 hour deposition in a law suit against him isn’t going well for him. Looks like the Justice is coming full circle to pick up where it was so distorted by these leaders.
Fareed has just moved Tsinghua University from Beijing to Shanghai, what an informed commentator! By the way, the biggest protests I observed in my 10 years in China were not on local issues but on foreign conflicts
The demonstrations brought me back 33 years ago when I was protesting in the campus, on the street and Tiananmen Square. I thought the young generation had lost the passion that we had. I was wrong. Hope the U.S. can show some support of the demonstrators and hold the Chinese government accountable for its retaliation against the demonstrators.
Repent. Believe in Jesus. John 3:16 -KJV – For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Luke 13:3 KJV – I tell you nay: but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV – Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@2001falseflag scam stay away from eating mushrooms and snorting horse deworming medication. Your brain is prepared to quit. 7-11 was an inside job, right?
The US will hold China’s communist leadership accountable just like they are holding Vladimir Putin accountable for Ukraine, sanctions and/or seizing a yacht or two.
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” ― Frederick Douglas
My fear is that the leaders know more about the virus than they are letting on. If so , those people are in big trouble. If not , take back your country .
@Bryan how ugly and ignorant to compare an autocratic government oppressing it own citizens by stripping civil rights still imprisoning people with strict curfews with a bunch of truckers that wouldn’t get vaccinated.
Who would that be? I know Canada currently has a more pro-China government than it ever has before. When I think of the USA view I think of the fact that the Saudis kill 1 journalist, and all the leftists hate them, but if China kills thousands they could care less. As leftwing billionaire Mark Cuban would say “I don’t care, I can make money in China”.
When I read your comment I think of the fact that CBC “Canadian government run news agency” showed us the videos years ago of them chaining/welding doors shut.
Then a few months before the trucker rally Dr. Tam “Canadian Dr. Fauci” told us that it was a lie, and there was no reason we shouldn’t trust China. Dr. Tam is always a Chinese national.
…did he just say “its one thing when you’re talking about a herd of peasants but we’re talking about hundreds/millions of college educated people”!!! SMH! The nerve of him. Sir…get a grip. Everybody counts!
One point that Zakaria mentioned in this interview needs to be correct. China generally doesn’t allow ANY protests, unless they have government background aiming to show angers to other contries. Although protesting is a civil right written in China’s constitution, any organized protesting needs to be approved by government and police, which you’d never succeed. From time to time, in extreme curcumstances people may just go on the streat without approval, and as long as it’s not against the government and/or the party, the government may accept their propositions, and even make limited compromises, but also always punish the organizors afterwards. So in this sense, what we saw in the recent protests in the China mainland is real bravery.
Actually, Zakaria is correct. There are constant protests about local environmental issues in particular and local issues like corruption and businesses acting unfairly- far more than are covered in the Western press (mostly because they are not interesting to us).
@Zodiac I looked up Ed Lawrence and checked his twitter. It seems he’s been released quite swiftly afterwards and has been tweeting about his experiences hours later… this is quite surprising
Protesting s also banned in the west I really dont see what the big deal is here? You cannot protest in canada or ANY western nation unless its for transing children or BLM.
The CCP has broken the social contract, where the Chinese people tolerated a loss of freedom in exchange for economic opportunity and rising prosperity. Now prospects for growth and increasing prosperity are gone. The combination of crushing lockdowns, overbearing surviellance, unemployment and loss of hope changes the game. Even the CCP could not resist nationwide rebellion by all walks of society in all places at the same time. But driven to the breaking point, this could happen.
It amazes me that a billion people are ruled by one. Hopefully the Chinese keep up the momentum and can create some form of democracy.
Why does China not take Vaccine from the West? or West won’t give it to them? Why not value life over vaccine nationalism?
@2001falseflag scam what a load of manure
Yea cause communism will never work
@2001falseflag scam 😂
@2001falseflag scam Dude look at your handle…you’re lost…get offline!!!
It surprises me they waited this long. No one remembers the screams from residences of Shanghai who were locked down for weeks without food.
I remember because I lived through it.
@Mike Morgan Yes. This was seen as an extreme conspiracy theory and a “selfish” demand not that long ago. Now there’s a lot of people who agree with the sentiment after having defended mandates and vaccination for years. When not even China can keep the spread of this flu to a minimum and when not even its citizens can take it, you know that there’s something wrong with the virus prevention approach.
@nm WhiteGirl is a troll, ignore it.
@Mike Morgan yeah screw those millions of people who are “vulnerable” its not like countries go to war for fractions of a percent of the population
@jamie hovis You just reversed what I meant. With Covid the vulnerable should have top priority in limiting exposure and keeping vaccinated.
Rise up, People of China! 🇨🇳
And say no to communism
🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼 this flag was real China not communist regime
@Metacomet Stone Taiwan is a province of China. Remember that Chang.
These protesters may be totally brutally suppressed I am afraid.
So sad.
When I was a medical student in Pakistan in 1969 we protested against the dictators general Ayyub Khan and they came looking for me and I had go underground for months.
Later I escaped to the USA. Pakistan fell apart 1971 when I went back to participate in the liberation war for Bangladesh which was East Pakistan.
Hope China can break out of their chain from their despot and dictators. Sad.
Regards to the Chinese people.
You may be correct, but what has changed DRASTICALLY since the time frame you described, is the modern connectivity of the civilian population with the internet and the proliferation of cell phones. THAT alone has to be scaring those still wielding power in the current regime. Add to that the pandemic crackdown, the massive loss of work and a declining economy, (not to mention the mortgage default of the Chinese housing behemoth) and you have a HUGE difference from 1969 to now. I think the Communists could be in serious trouble, and they may not be able to contain this rage that the PEOPLE are displaying! China may be in for a long, hard and painful road, and desperate despots often act in a brutal manner, but I’m not so sure they can contain this one if it goes on much longer.
All I know is that Fauci tried to emulate the CCP and now he’s being sued. A lot of parallels going on as Fauci’s 7 hour deposition in a law suit against him isn’t going well for him. Looks like the Justice is coming full circle to pick up where it was so distorted by these leaders.
Goes to show uhow mean Chinese communists can be
@SCPython The presenter said China refuses because its a Western Vaccine. They are developing their own.
It is nice to know WHY the Chinese government is doing these lock downs. I did not understand the WHY behind the extreme methods.
Fareed has just moved Tsinghua University from Beijing to Shanghai, what an informed commentator! By the way, the biggest protests I observed in my 10 years in China were not on local issues but on foreign conflicts
Those are orchestrated (pro government) “protests.” Not real.
The demonstrations brought me back 33 years ago when I was protesting in the campus, on the street and Tiananmen Square. I thought the young generation had lost the passion that we had. I was wrong. Hope the U.S. can show some support of the demonstrators and hold the Chinese government accountable for its retaliation against the demonstrators.
@Dems AKAWalkingLateTermAbortions republicans are calling the protestors a woke mob and voting to support the Communist leader to shoot on site
@13muller _”Maybe the difference is Canada is a democracy where people are free to express their concerns without fear of Gov. retaliation!!”_
Hello? Less than a year ago? Trudeau’s treatment of Canadian truckers? Geezusss.
Repent. Believe in Jesus. John 3:16 -KJV – For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Luke 13:3 KJV – I tell you nay: but except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV – Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
@2001falseflag scam stay away from eating mushrooms and snorting horse deworming medication. Your brain is prepared to quit. 7-11 was an inside job, right?
The US will hold China’s communist leadership accountable just like they are holding Vladimir Putin accountable for Ukraine, sanctions and/or seizing a yacht or two.
The Blank Paper Is Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!! It Says It ALL WITH NO WORDS! WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT IS A NATURAL-BORN WORLD LEADER
https://youtube.com/shorts/tNxANB0hwYU?feature=share
Defund the police
Next the CCP will ban blank pieces of paper, no joke!
Russians have used it to protest the war. They get dragged away immediately.
@Miles Doodling I wonder if that’s where the Russians got the idea.
“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.” ― Frederick Douglas
https://youtube.com/shorts/tNxANB0hwYU?feature=share
No justice no peace
I have been waiting so long for this:
https://youtu.be/jsn7w9L7Yfc .
The US MSM is becoming more like communist in it’s way in controlling the Americans.
People have had enough, they put their lives out there. So brave.
Is it ok to challenge deranged covid policies now?
My fear is that the leaders know more about the virus than they are letting on. If so , those people are in big trouble. If not , take back your country .
There sick of communist life
@Bryan
Ok traitor
@Bryan how ugly and ignorant to compare an autocratic government oppressing it own citizens by stripping civil rights still imprisoning people with strict curfews with a bunch of truckers that wouldn’t get vaccinated.
I hope Selena Wang stays safe. There was a British journalist who was arrested and beaten. Stay safe!
He probably tried to start a new colony
When you literally CHAINING peoples doors shut and they cannot escape Fires in their buildings…. The world must stand against this evil.
Who would that be? I know Canada currently has a more pro-China government than it ever has before. When I think of the USA view I think of the fact that the Saudis kill 1 journalist, and all the leftists hate them, but if China kills thousands they could care less. As leftwing billionaire Mark Cuban would say “I don’t care, I can make money in China”.
When I read your comment I think of the fact that CBC “Canadian government run news agency” showed us the videos years ago of them chaining/welding doors shut.
Then a few months before the trucker rally Dr. Tam “Canadian Dr. Fauci” told us that it was a lie, and there was no reason we shouldn’t trust China. Dr. Tam is always a Chinese national.
Did u say the same thing about the lockdowns here?
…did he just say “its one thing when you’re talking about a herd of peasants but we’re talking about hundreds/millions of college educated people”!!! SMH! The nerve of him. Sir…get a grip. Everybody counts!
He meant that the peasants wouldn’t fight back the way the educated folks would. He didn’t mean they were any better.
@Moon Dancer someone said they’re pushing students into domestic tech schools instead of college, probably for that exact reason.
@J Turtle Probably so. 😔
He was mirroring the CCP view
@Moon Dancer Because peasants never revolt? I don’t really get Zakaria’s reasoning. Peasants are famous for revolting.
Kudos to Chinese people who are not scared of CCP no more!!!
Billions of people fearful of one man ruling party!!! This is insane. That one man should be fearful of the billions of people.
A man that gets all sensitive about a cartoon character should never rule a country with such a rich culture and history.
Or a character on Saturday Night Live.
Now is the time to appreciate the great leadership of Mr. Modi of India who successfully managed a billion plus population out of the crisis 👍
At the expense of muslim Indians. Every day is open day on muslim citizens of India.
Ya don’t suppose they are watching the World Cup and aren’t buying what their government is saying?
The crucial difference is the vaccines. There are a billion unvaccinated people in China.
One point that Zakaria mentioned in this interview needs to be correct. China generally doesn’t allow ANY protests, unless they have government background aiming to show angers to other contries. Although protesting is a civil right written in China’s constitution, any organized protesting needs to be approved by government and police, which you’d never succeed. From time to time, in extreme curcumstances people may just go on the streat without approval, and as long as it’s not against the government and/or the party, the government may accept their propositions, and even make limited compromises, but also always punish the organizors afterwards. So in this sense, what we saw in the recent protests in the China mainland is real bravery.
@Susan Herald exactly
Actually, Zakaria is correct. There are constant protests about local environmental issues in particular and local issues like corruption and businesses acting unfairly- far more than are covered in the Western press (mostly because they are not interesting to us).
@Zodiac I looked up Ed Lawrence and checked his twitter. It seems he’s been released quite swiftly afterwards and has been tweeting about his experiences hours later… this is quite surprising
Communism will never work
Protesting s also banned in the west I really dont see what the big deal is here? You cannot protest in canada or ANY western nation unless its for transing children or BLM.
Yea Zakaria, one of my great analysts. God bless & be with all of us.
The CCP has broken the social contract, where the Chinese people tolerated a loss of freedom in exchange for economic opportunity and rising prosperity. Now prospects for growth and increasing prosperity are gone. The combination of crushing lockdowns, overbearing surviellance, unemployment and loss of hope changes the game. Even the CCP could not resist nationwide rebellion by all walks of society in all places at the same time. But driven to the breaking point, this could happen.
I’m starting to notice far too often Fareed doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about.🤣🤣🤣