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The Federal Court “rocket docket” a very speedy system is available for companies suing each other but not for such fundamental questions as can a former President assert executive privilege. Something is seriously out of wack. Australia had a problem about members of parliament with dual citizenship, the HCA ( Australia’s SCOTUS) heard the case and delivered judgement within weeks. Why has Australia got a better legal system than America?
@Sheil B Wright I agree, it’s something like a bully insisting you kill your dog, or he will. In either case, Rover is done for if you accept their premise. I’m searching for an intellectually honest way to reject their premise.
@Mark Feland more than just partisan politics, legal and institutionalized corruption. Who in their right mind would make lobbying and large donations and PACs legal and expect whatever system those measures were applied to to indefinitely remain healthy and democratic?
@Sugar Kitty We had a member not reacting to bullying in their office and they lost their job? America has a representative bullying a Sandy Hook survivor on camera and screaming it was a false flag??? She has done worse and is still there? If ANY member of parliament did half of what some in America do…they would be up for a vote of no confidence and be gone. Some I have watched have come out with things that would lose them their job before the week was over in Australia?? When I heard Andrew Clyde say the January 6 rioters looked lie ‘normal tourists’??? Really? US politics is a sh*t show…and has been for over 6 years.
No dancing around and claiming privilege this time Cipillone.
@Austin Levreault just making the point that pleading the 5th isnt a get out of testifying free card.
@laura myers Have no idea what?? you are talking about.
@Dale Hartley then you didn’t watch the hearings.
@laura myers Why would you say that? they did not give anything but excepts from the Cipollone testimony….So WHO didn’t watch them?
How can Cipolloni legitimately claim privilege? Trump never invoked it and Biden has said he won’t assert it either.
@Uniquely Lily But not the occupant. He protects the office. That means upholding the law, defending and protecting the integrity of the office against someone who has tarnished it.
If you listen close, you can hear the sound of food hitting the wall because of this development.
@Luz Castillo I didn’t call you anything. I’m asking you once again, are you ok with being called a breakfast taco by the First Lady? Even someone like you does not have an excuse to not understand this. What is the problem with providing an answer? Making excuses and deflecting isn’t working so great, stand up for yourself, think for yourself and provide an answer. This is the opposite of rocket science lol.
@WE THE PEOPLE 🙌 I believe I already answered your question.
@Luz Castillo I don’t believe you have. I believe I asked you a yes or no question and I don’t see a yes or a no. Let’s try again until you get it. Yes or no… again… are you offended that the First Lady referred to you as a breakfast taco? I believe you can understand this, take your time.
Yes, there is still Justice in the United States.
Not necessarily
Well we’re still waiting for it.
@Not Here “The wheels of Justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine”! Patience!! OUR Sweet American Justice Will Prevail!!! TRE45ON!!!
Enough this crap about executive privilege. Crimes against the country were committed; justice has to prevail.
@SHAK3 N Wtf are you even on about? You make no sense.
@Darth Tiznip Right in front of you, all the time.
Pat Cippiloni is white house council to the”office of the president” not to the man in the office. So he should be protecting the office not the man!
We, the people, deserve the truth. We, the people, deserve justice. Justice matters.
I don’t live in the USA but I am witnessing democracy reasserting itself with some envy. This relentless pursuit of the truth is so impressive. I am sure we are witnessing another stage in the development of this pursuit. May justice prevail.
@Deb Odonnell people like me? What laws have I broken, as many as you prove Trump has.
ZERO!
@Deb Odonnell when did I defend it?
Don’t miss my other reply
Cippilone was counsel to the “office of the president” and not a specific person. Seems to me the rights of executive privilege rest with the sitting president and not a former one. There doesn’t seem to me to be any reason why Cippilone can’t be completely forthcoming.
As Counsel to the White House Office of President, he is the voice of Law to protect the Constitution and the American People. He is not there to protect the President.
He has no excuse
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
Nobody mentioned the MAIN point for the DOJs strategy in this video.
The most important decision for DOJ to make in all this is WHEN to go to court about what is and what isn’t ‘executive privilege’. With lawyers and officials lower down the ladder, they didn’t go to court for a ruling. That’s because they MUST NOT lose this argument. So they have to have a really cast iron case first. If they shoot and miss, it’s game over.
It could be for Pat Cipollone’s testimony. But I’m guessing they’re more likely gonna go with Mark Meadows. Once they open up Meadows and Cipollone, the whole Trump-Big Lie house of cards comes crashing down.
Even if the grand jury votes to proceed that does not mean they have to do it. I won’t believe it until I see it.
Typo: It’s not spelled ‘Big Lie’, I think you’ll find it’s ‘Bigly’! 😀
He’ll have to talk to a grand jury. Their deliberations are sworn to secrecy anyway. There may be sensitive information that doesn’t need to be public. Okay. But not if it involves criminal activity. No one is above the law. Again.
@Kristy Campbell read the Constitution.
@No gun no fear We have.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
Nice to see. Let’s hope we don’t see a two-tier legal/justice system crystalised
Boy, would I have loved to witness the deliberations resulting in this subpoena. I think it’s a brilliant move. Cipollone was the fly on every wall where the POS went. No executive privilege in case of fraud crime!
*_We’re hopeful that Pat Cippalone_*
*_Will help us cut through the baloney_*
*_Ketchup on the wall, preceding the fall_*
*_Of the orange balloon and his cronies_*
POS is so correct!
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
Thank you! There is no “Privilege” in the commission of a crime, that veil should have already been pierced! Finally, somebody who knows the Law
We deserve the truth about everything that happened. There should be no privilege at all.
@Saffron Wetter believe on Jesus Christ and His Heavenly Father…
@paul BFields
God word says he will help thoes who helps themselves
Leaving this Courrpt Government in Washington DC
Is not helping yourself…
You’re up holding their wrongful Government…
@paul BFields but they’re not down here . We have to keep the wheel
Acts of crimes have no privilege!
Cippolone: “Executive Privilege.”
DOJ: “Hmmm… yeaaah, how about no?”
He’s smart enough to know he can’t invoke it.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
YELL NO!
I may be wrong, but I feel Cipollone actually wants to disclose what he knows. The grand jury gives him the opportunity more than the 16 hearing allowed. He wants to be “compelled” to disclose.
Funny…I got the same gut feeling as wel.
Last fight https://youtu.be/A3Xk9-Znf40
I feel that also…
I feel he is disgusted by having to defend the Office while the orange dictator wannabe sat there.
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Don’t make Pat Cipillone a saint. He was the voice of reason but he was absolutely silent for 18 months