Despite recent mass shootings in Buffalo, Uvalde, and Tulsa, Americans are pessimistic that new gun safety laws will pass Congress because of partisan polarization. But even in the mythical gun-loving wild west, sheriffs wouldn’t allow guns into town.
David Yamane, a gun-owning sociologist, discusses with Reality Check’s John Avlon the disconnect between gun mythology in America and its gun culture today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hNqD9mJlMQ
Actually, automatic weapons are NOT outlawed by the National Firearms Act of 1934 – only effectively regulated.
They had AR-15’s back then?🤔
Correct. With that said, the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 has an amendment that prohibits civilians from purchasing automatic firearms manufactured after 1986. So while civilians can still purchase automatic firearms, they can only buy those made in 1986 or before. And those guns are prohibitively expensive costing in the high five-figure range.
@Mama cita No they didn’t. I believe the AR-15 was introduced in the late 50s. But, among existing full-auto weapons was the Browning Automatic Rifle which came out in 1918 and the Thompson submachine gun which came out in 1921.
@bgurtek so they did effectively regulate them? Background checks and permits and such? Why is so inconceivable today to have basic regulations???🤯
Well DONE John. I appreciate that. Thank you.
A lot of modern Westerns have gotten it right. The Unforgiven, Tombstone, Wyatt Earp… It’s really just the older ones that made crap up.
As I understand it, back in the old west, it took a lot of work to make enough money to buy a gun…as the average cowboy got paid like 25 cents per day? The 6 shooter revolver cost $40 so 6 months later(more like a year as he had to drink) he could afford 1 gun. No holster, no bullets. Them cost extra. They were mighty skimpy when it came to shooting(taking 1 shot instead of 6 to hit the “target”) A Jack-Rabbit only gives you one chance and there goes dinner. Rare is the western that tells it as it really was. Most never mention it. Cowboys were poor buggers. Which is why they were always robbing banks or trains or prospectors. Nothing glamourous about the old west.
. Buying a gun for DEFENSE? From who exactly? You don’t stand a chance. IF THE GOVERNMENT “SAY, WANTS YOUR HOME, OR LAND. They bring many more guns. So Lawyer up. Only through legal means can you stop “them”. As for foreign country invasions, that does not happen so much anymore.
. Ukraine & Russia is a special case.
. No, this is not “Wolfenstein” or some other video game(I only have the one) You have 1 Life and when you are shot you are down for the count.
. Guns are really not needed in the U.S. because it is civilized. Well, just the police & security & the military need guns. The civilians got that other gun…the +3500lb bullet they steer. That will go +100MPH and do much destruction. But still not as much destruction as 1 virus you CAN’T SEE so can’t kill it with a bullet. Zombi Apocalypse would be easier and more preferable. But that is Science Fiction…a story.
. Think of all the money you save not supporting the NRA. Get beer instead.
The American politician and stateman ,on its front flyleaf penned a thought that was occuring to more and more people.
The mythology of American culture – that’s were you should address any talk of mental health.
Seems to me carrying a gun in Tombstone led to the shoot out at the OK Corral!
Finally somebody brings this very point up.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Is Leningrad an american city?
Dont forget that the author had his own opinion.
The right opinion.
Stalin is Republican
When is he going to surprise us? All this is common known, the wild west wasn’t very wild. The most striking difference is though is historically especially wild west and before one thing we didn’t have is lifetime politicians, until we get rid of those nothing changes.
“Less shouting, more talking.”
How about some listening? People’s minds are already made up and nobody want’s to listen.
I have to disagree with the professor. I think, we’re long overdue for less talking and more action. Plain and simple. His recommendation less shouting and more talking, signals he’s soft on any kind of action.
What could be the reason that causes society to keep on producing mass shooters, racial haters & leaders who are not serious in ending these tragedies year after year & decade after decade?
Guns and the current interpretation of the second amendment
51 people shot over Memorial Day weekend in Chicago, the most violent in five years
About half of those shot were on the West Side, most of them in a single police district where there were two mass shootings. At least 23 people were shot on the South Side and four downtown.
hows that strict gun control workin?
On the southside of chicago many songs have been written. For a long time
This was a very even handed piece. I was surprised to see this coming from CNN. Perhaps the new owners will actually steer this network into less biased reporting.
All rights that every Constitution recognizes and confers have limits. Even the right to life of an individual can be withheld by the state in accordance with the laws in force. Where do you think public execution of criminals come from? How you drive your car, how you shouldn’t go around naked in public, how you treat children and other people, how you practice your livelihood or profession, how you conduct your business, enter into contracts, even your right to privacy and travel, and all other rights have limits. They are limits that are put in place by law and the State has the power to enact and enforce those laws. Just because there is a “no infringement” clause does not make the constitutional provision absolute and limitless. There is no absolute right, even constitutional rights. The State has Police Power to regulate rights and privileges and the actions of the citizens, including their rights to ownership of property and even how they live their lives, how they deal with relationships with others and the community, how they deal with the government and the State, etc. It is only in America that there is too much focus lies on rights and privileges and not enough on obligations and duties and the lives and well-being of others. Ultimately it is selfishness and the willful inability to look at others as their equals and the fear of the consequences of their past actions that are at the core of this gun culture.
there are over 22,000 federal and state gun control laws on the books. there most certainly was not more gun control in the 1870-80s etc than there is today.
Owning vehicles requires registration, licenses, classes/tests, sobriety, and titles. Adopt the same for guns.
vehicles are a privilege firearms are a right.
some of the places where 2A supporters get the idea that the anti gun lobby wants to get rid of guns; U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno
“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”
Thiruvendran Vignaraja, Maryland Deputy Attorney General
Speaking with an undercover journalist, when asked about what type of gun control regime he would impose, Vignarajah replied, “my complete answer, off the record, is that we should ban guns altogether, period.”
Hal Riedl, The Baltimore Sun
“I say, let’s get rid of the Second Amendment altogether.”
Senator Joseph Biden
“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.”
Chairman Paul Sarlo “We needed a bill to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.”
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo
“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.
Sen. John H. Chafee (R.-R.I.) “I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs). . . . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!”
Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) “My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don’t have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that’s the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation.”
Michael Dukakis
“I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by [the] police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state.”
VP Joe Biden
“And to your point, Mr. Baker (NRA representative) regarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form.”
Submitting false information on an ATF Form 4473 required for the necessary background check to obtain a firearm is a felony.
Rep. Major Owens (D-Brooklyn, N.Y.) “Mr. Speaker, my bill prohibits the importation, exportation, manufacture, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and handgun ammunition. It establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of handguns.”
Maryland Attorney General J. Joseph Curran is proposing a wide-ranging package of laws that would make the state’s gun control regulations among the strictest in the nation and says his ultimate goal is a ban on handguns.
Deborah Prothrow-Stith (Dean of Harvard School of Public Health)
“My view of guns is simple. I hate guns and I cannot imagine why anyone would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.”
Charles Krauthammer (nationally syndicated columnist), Disarm the Citizenry. But Not Yet” In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.”
Barbara LeSavoy is director of Women and Gender Studies at The College at Brockport.
“I urge President Obama to ban firearm possession in America. He is the president of the United States. He can change the country. He can do it today. I believe in him.”
Greg Ridgeway, Ph.D., Deputy Director of the National Institute of Justice, admitted that “gun buybacks are ineffective as generally implemented,” unless they are “massive and coupled with a ban.”
Senator Howard Metzenbaum
“I don’t care about crime, I just want to get the guns.”
and keep in mind that list is quite a few years out of date as it doesnt have francis oroarks “hell yes were coming for your ar-15s and ak-47s”.
and it wasnt the us government though national guard units were involved, but authorities went around door to door confiscating firearms in the wake of hurricane katrina. and many of the owners still havent gotten the confiscated guns back.
well the uvalde shooter was stopped by a good guy with a gun. and according to the cdc (hardly a bastion of 2A support) between 500,000-3,000,000 defend themselves with a firearm per year. thats a lot of good guys with guns.