Denver Riggleman, former Republican Congressman from Virginia, speaks to what his party has turned into now that “Trump is the new establishment” and how he has been battling a war against disinformation. Aired on 04/16/2021.
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Riggleman Says Number Of GOP Who Believe The Election Was Stolen Is Being Undercounted | Deadline
These Republican GOP members didn’t truly believe the election was stolen! They just went along with the lie to get brownie points and ride Donald Trump’s coattails to get reelected!
@sherri burleigh
Nobody cares about your delusions any more. The world has moved on. Wallow in ignorance and hatred if you wish, but it is not going to impress anyone.
@sherri burleigh No Matter how much you put behind a lie….. It will always be a lie!!
I disagree. I think at least some of those leaders who are telling lies actually choose to believe their own crap. Its working for them so the lies can be true. Why not.
@C S That’s plausible I suppose, but unlikely!
@sherri burleigh ….get with the fuckn program !! Biden won fair and square.
“I’ve lost a significant number of friends…”
Get better friends, because your old friends are traitors.
Fact.
Brainwashed
It must hurt when it’s family though. And how people can think that politics is more important than family is beyond me.
Now that it is apparent what actually took place how do we get to the space of accountability for all this chaos?
We won’t, period… No.45 stench permeates every idea of “ for the people, by the people “. He meant for myself, my kids and for Russia. Traitor..
@Jello You can’t think like that, my guy
Follow the money aspect….yes…a truer set of words never spoken…
I couldn’t have said it better. These problems are truly frightening
Mike Flynn, his brother – all the people that got him off those charges – there’s a bunch of them Q people in charge
We had news in this country years ago. FYI, that ended specifically when POS Ronald Reagan vetoed the “Fairness Doctrine” in 1984 ending the long historically-established requirement that both or all sides of any subject must be equally represented to be able to call yourself ‘news’. The ‘Teflon President’ ended news in America, bring it back. Reason & facts are infinitely superior to faith & ignorance.
As long as “fairness” doesn’t mean equal time for flat-earthers.
Exactly right the real anti christ Ronald Wilson Reagan 666
Going to have to make an official government / civilian fact checking agency…..maybe give them the ability to fine people for pushing provable falsehoods. Hire researchers like the FBI does. Put it under the FCC.
@April MacDonell Ok, but we can use facts to be inflammatory. I would say that pointing out the race/sexual orientation/gender identity/religion of participants in crime (victim/perp/police) can be used to inflammatory effect.
Rarely are those things germane to the story, and can be used to foment public anger.
An agency or individual can chose to include or exclude facts to produce a fully factual but wholly inaccurate statement.
@Kyle Kyle this is exactly why we are in this situation. The United States FBI is not a criminal organization.
Our politics is insanely evil.
@Kyle Kyle under Trump ur exactly right
@Andy Lord Facts can only be inflammatory to those who are in deep denial of the truth. I am not a lawyer but making that statement in front of a judge would most likely not sit well with him/her.
Now, for the remainder of your statement in the first paragraph; I would probably agree with you if we lived in a just society but we don’t. This WASP mentality has been ingrained in our society for a reason. It was always intentional and I would say that it still is… There’s plenty of data pointing it out but let’s forget about the statistics and data for a second. Our history points to it and it is black and white – there’s no gray area.
While I agree with what you’re stating, you’re wrong in applying it here because we do not live in a just society. So when the system doesn’t change and it is blatantly obvious that justice in this country is applied differently based on how one looks. We are at a point in this country where public anger is at a boiling point.
Did your parents ever have with you before you became a teenager what’s known in Black culture as “The Talk?” There’s a reason behind “the talk” and why it is a must in Black American families.
I saw my extended family last weekend, several of them are full on Qanon. Like Tom Hanks eats babies level Qanon. It was f’in absurd.
Lmao you like making up stories on the internet to get likes?
@Kyle Kyle Funny how that thought came into your head. Is that something that you might do? Make something up to get likes? You cant possibly be jealous of someone making a comment on something and people agreeing with or relating to them…could you?
Same here. Listening to then talk is like listening to a twilight zone episode
@American Bulldog you are right, typical right-wing projection.
@buster 😁👍
Facts still, and will always matter to the intelligent among us.
Sadly, there’re a lot of stupid people in this world. And also simply uneducated folk.
With a loud ugly voice.
A vote.
And a lot of desperation.
@Thisisanya also plenty of stupid people running around thinking the got it all figured out… methinks that won’t change anytime soon.
@Thisisanya Yep and that is why republican are against public education<<<<
@Thisisanya : Applying our ( at the time ) vast wealth to invest in higher education across the board in the post WW2 era was one of the greatest missed opportunities available to us as a country. We are now so far behind countries that understand the long term value education brings to every aspect of the lives of individuals and the development and strength of their countries. So much of what we are seeing now would be unlikely to arise or take root in a well educated, thinking population. Instead, our resources are now massively impacted with the cost of dealing with the consequences of that lack.
70 million or whatever it was tRump voters disagree
They will believe whatever is in their interest.
… AND whatever hurts their enemies.
@Wesley C.
Yep.
If elected officials running for re-election knew they wouldn’t receive more money via campaign contributions for touting Qanon then they wouldn’t do it anymore. Always follow the money. Get dark money out of politics.
It’s all identity. Just as they gain self-esteem by separating themselves from others on the basis of skin color, they separate themselves by wacky beliefs.
brilliantly said, ty both. the gqp has really gone absolutely mad. jim jones had nothing on t** and them.
There should be penalties for elected officials who spread miss info. News outlets should be fined heavily
I’m all for that! I would go further, elected officials who spread misinformation, heavily fined & news outlets heavily fined + All would have to apologize & explain to the American people on their outlets… and taking ads out so all the American people know the REAL TRUTH, not their lies. (Probably on loop for a week, on their dime!)
In other words, hit ’em with their personal pocket book & ego.
I miss Walter Cronkite. He was a REPORTER, not a commenter. We are all subjected to too many opinions. For ratings, it seems news channels all “click bait” and exaggerate EVERY piece of info, noteworthy or not. Bordering on misinformation leading into flat outright lies. EVERYTHING is steeped in political motivation. Can’t we just get the facts, without all the drama and biased personal inflections? Too much Social media input, not enough plain honest reporting is infecting our Country. Like I said, I miss Walter Cronkite, “And that’s the way it is.”
@Sue Legacie I agree. “News Reporters” and their network agencies should be licensed and held to a truth standard. Fines and revocation of licenses for networks and reporters who give false or misleading “news.”
First Amendment says we can all speak our opinions. But those who claim to be “Reporting the News” as trusted sources of information, as opposed to just “an average person on the street” should earn and uphold professionalism. No “personal two cents” allowed and certainly no blatant lies.
As for Elected Officials… They should be held to the highest standard of truth and honor. Look at where we are because we can’t trust those who run our Country, make our laws and represent the rest of us. I’m for removal from office and jail time for Elected Officials who lie to the people.
They believe it because they can’t believe otherwise. I get that. Because I can’t believe that 71 million people looked at the state of the country last November and said: “Yeah, I’d like four more years of this.”
So sad
Dumbest voters in the world, constantly re-electing legislators who work against the interests of their own voters.
This is so sad and stupid. I don’t want anyone to suffer or hurt in any way shape or form but I find myself thinking “it’s fine if these people don’t want to take the vaccine…let them get Covid and die, we’ll be better off without them” and that makes me ashamed of myself.
That is truly shameful. Every Democrat that ignores election fraud (see New Hampshire audit) is free to live a long life and prosper. Victory will come through the courts or not…that is America 🇺🇸.
Don’t be, they are grown adults , they make their bed , they put their pants on one leg at a time, they have their own health insurance maybe let’s just say they all do, they know the consequences of getting the disease it’s sickness and death, the questions should be, do they really want to be saved? And Are they really essential? Lol 😂
I’m very thankful that no one in our families go along with this craziness. I’ve never seen any thing like this in my life. Is it ever going to end?
This is definitely some historical events happening right now. Other than Klan and Nazis weve never seen a cult this big. Were gonna be ok. This is big, so its probably going to hang on for years.
@C S My naïve thought was that Joe would be so good for the country that everybody would come to their senses. That will happen to a few, but there’s this other section of society which is so full of hate, anger and feeling victimised that it’s gone to another level. The current vitriol is, quite frankly, frightening.
It will end in the next civil war in 10 years or so probably. The USA has no future because of the gop, fox and tRump idiots.
“You have been grifted” is exactly what these freaks DON’T and WON’T want to HEAR.
It is ridiculous just how deep this lie has dug into so many. I don’t even understand the obvious stupidity. This is very scary stuff.