Trump Compared Coronavirus To The Flu. Here’s Why That’s Bad Idea. | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

The president has, on more than one occasion, likened the coronavirus to the flu. Infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist Dr. Celine Gounder explains why that's a flawed comparison. Aired on 3/9/2020.
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Trump Compared Coronavirus To The Flu. Here's Why That's Bad Idea. | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

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    1. @Miller Time a few days ago this MSNBC host claimed that 500m was enough to give every american 1m and still have plenty left… its in fact not. 327m times 1m is 327 Trillion. thats more than the whole global GDP.
      they were griping that bloomberg spent 500m on advertising and they claimed he could give every american 1m. his total networth is like 60 Billion, which is nowhere near 327 Trillion

    1. Cam thanks for your thoughts, they’re very useful and tolerant. You seem very loving and humble

    2. @Dreams, Visions, and Revelations lolol you’ve been passionately on here for an hour debating useless things with strangers who wont EVER think about you after they turn the screen off.

      But please, tell me more about being useful.

    3. @Brandon Toad They aren’t? Epidemiologists and virologists are very different and every virologist will tell you to use the same precautions you would for the flu, I.e. don’t touch your face and wash hands with soap and water.

    4. Cam I don’t want them to think of me when they turn their screens off. I’m just debating truth/fiction πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. I don’t like leaving people deceived sorry, I love humans and don’t tell 90% of people to never speak again.

  1. CDC reported for 2019 Seasonal Flu in US there were 34 million cases and 20,000 deaths. Coronavirus 550 cases and 26 deaths. No pandemic, no nothing. Ratings driven partisan nonsense.

    1. @James Thomas excatly people needs to understand a vaccine vs none sure the flu mutaes still an easier way to find the vaccine vs this cornavirus which there is none and also remember people still refuse their flu shot can also play a huge factor in the deaths to and remember it cost no money to get one

    2. @Sederick Hardy all I’m saying is there is no immunity a lot of denial about that…I get it, but come on. You can’t let fear rule you. I hope Bill, Rob, David, Jose and ball can have the time to absorb the information I presented them.

    3. @Sederick Hardy Then there would also be many more people in china that caught it and didn’t report it since they either showed no symptoms or had something less then a cold. Once again vaccine has nothing to do with transmission or lethality when we are comparing it to the flu which still kills many despite there being a vaccine because the vaccine isn’t a true one due to flues ability to mutate. I already said all this. and since we are comparing it to the flu how many people do you think catch the flu every year despite a vaccine for it? Since a 100000 seems like a lot to you.

  2. Swine Flu, Bird Flu, that mosquito deadly virus. It’s like it’s something every other 5yrs

    1. @Flat Earth Punks If the Earth is flat how come a person standing in South Africa, South America and Australia all can look South and see the EXACT same stars, with merely a rotational difference?

      That’s perfectly explained by the globe, but it shatters your flat map because all the people would be looking in three different directions.

    2. @BornKingGamer All stars rotate East to West around Polaris just above the central North Pole like in a dome. The dome of our Earth however is so vast that the law of perspective doesn’t allow you to see all the stars from any one vantage point. You can however see Polaris, Ursa Major/Minor and other Northern constellations from every point on Earth all the way to the Southern Tropic of Capricorn. All stars rise more or less in the East and set in the West, with the angle/inclination being based on where you are on Earth and what direction you’re facing.

    1. @Bone Z this comment almost sounds like it came from the Walmart lady screaming “im trying to save you mutha fuckaa, Repent!”

    2. @Jeremy Franco ok thats funny but why not try ? to help a brother out? by the way i do not trust Pence as far as could throw him over a fence . never trust your vp. look up how john hinckley jr the guy who tried to assassinate a president served very little time in an upscale asylum for the mentally ill hes out a fee man now . his family built off shore rigs for the bushes who in my opinion still hold the rein’s mostly on the rnc just as the clintons hold the reins on the dnc . you know the democrats would fair way better to run michael obama ,after they take biden out but they can not at this moment maybe next time . because Trump will once again trounce her. look i know you hate me and i understand where it comes from you been conditioned . i would feel even more than crazy to not engage with you and ask you to step outside your bias . start to look at both sides . find the middle . truth is something you seek never freely given . you hate Trump because he fights back . you are not used to it . or you can just OBEY your master . the benevolent slave master routine is far more sinister than the abbott costello show . pence would like nothing more than a dead Trump. by the way i am firmly of the opinion that obama was a strawman alowed to be where he was. he received his dirty dossier delivered to him by no less the robert mueller who was his director of the FBI at the time. i think obama is waiting it out gathering his monies . maybe he will make them pay or he will make us all pay . one thing i know for sure he will not endorse Biden but he will hold his nose and do so for Hillary . watch if im wrong then stay in your bubble if i am right will you run ? or not

    3. Kennet Ratcliff sure let’s just listen to msnbc lie about what he said instead. The flu is much worse.

    4. @Joe Hanks that’s the point good job stop the madness be aware it is a bad bug . do not panic and do not let evil people try to take control using fear . no one said no to take it seriously just do not panic that makes it worse

  3. The flu virus mutates every year, so it’s always something new entering our organism… That’s why we get sick anyway.

    1. But some of the genetic code remains meaning our immune system is not totally baffled by it. This is an entirely new virus we have NEVER been exposed to. This is already deadlier than SARS and MERS. SARS for example killed 800 in 8 months. Thousands of people have died to this disease in 2 months and it seems as though outbreaks are only going to continue..

    2. Campos Jesus Right. Any this virus is so new. We don’t really know the long term effects that the virus has on the body. People who have recovered have only been fine for a few weeks or months. Are they still doing okay five years later?

    3. @Campos Jesus

      Are you implying that this is more than just the flu? Cuz the flu you know. It’s the flu. Flu.

      -Most people when I try to explain

    4. @A.S Bernard exactly. We dont know much about this virus other than it being a respiratory infection belonging to a family of corona viruses. People down playing its seriousness are only going to cause careless infection and more deaths. People of all ages and health have died to this virus.

    1. I’ve seen the news change for politics and police all the time and people are just know seeing it

    1. Yes. How much is the 3,6% (mortality of coronavirus) of 45 million (people who get the flu every year)?

    2. Science or Scientism, it’s the latter that actually seems to run our world view. No!,
      It’s all theoretical.

  4. wasn’t this guy shot down by 72 trillion rockets while piloting helicopters’ in Afghanistan?

    1. Nah, you’re thinking of that Trump guy, the one who fought his way thru an entire tribe of Bonespurs armed with nothing but an entitled deferment.

    1. @Tory “…their information is questionable”…but Tory’s isn’t. How nice to know. You make excuses to support your view of this disease based on lots less info than the scientists have. Why not just listen to _everyone_ skeptically? Lots of “probablys” and “likelys”and “coulds” in your post. In addition, viruses have no “reason,” so nothing stands to reason. Scientists, for example, have no idea why more children have not gotten seriously ill but old people have, unlike with other respiratory illnesses, where both groups are most vulnerable. Suppose the fatality rate rises? Ever thought of that possibility? No, and no one did in 1918 either, when Donald Trump’s grandfather died at age 49 of what was a novel virus without a vaccine then, the incidence dropped, and then came back half as bad the next year. Caution, like the president is taking with the six members of Congress and his new chief of staff who have been in personal contact with the person at CPAC who tested positive (he’s not visiting them at home), is advisable, rather than hysteria, of course, but insisting that this or that outcome is mostly likely when scientists are still working with the possibility that this could spread and be as deadly as the 1918 flu, borders on the reckless, just like the president would be reckless to visit Meadows or Cruz to offer them his best wishes.

    2. @hEAtOniK Could you tell me which horse is going to win the Kentucky Derby? I could use your magical foresight. Speaking of horses, did you predict the number of deaths of horses at Santa Anita with your special gift? Did you predict the sudden death of three more horses in January? Is the death rate certain to drop there too when we don’t know why horse X dies and horse Y doesn’t, just like we don’t know why certain people die of this disease in large numbers and some, notably youngsters, don’t? Please tell the racetrack managers they have nothing to worry about from now on, because there are still calls for shutting down Santa Anita to protect the horses still housed there. We want to protect the horses, but don’t want people to lose their jobs, so making the prudent decision is pretty important. Nothing is certain about this virus yet except that it can be passed from animals to humans and from human to human. We also know that cramming thousands of humans into a small space, like a ship or a political rally, is a wonderful way to transmit it from human to human, if that’s your goal. One wonders what on earth the Japanese government was thinking, especially when they then were not careful to isolate everyone who had been on board who was not tested when they finally evacuated the ship.

    3. Dude just google what the Coronavirus gives u. It is the same as the flu, if not less as bad. The only people that die from it are people who are old, or just have a lot of conditions.

    1. @DrTocan Nobody is celebrating the markets free fall today. Trumps only concern is The Market it shows in his words and his actions. What kind of Man tells his people there is a Vaccine 4 to 6 weeks away when it is a blatant falsehood? If you believe his lies it’s because you want to.

    2. @Mack Gloven love trump, the biggest threat to this country is the dems and far left as weve seen on this election. We need to come together not all these lefts still trump because hes a freaking awesome President

  5. You guys are going to feel silly when you realize it’s just another β€œswine flu EPIDEMIC.” Oh wait, it’s NBC. They’re wrong all the time and don’t care.

    1. Not another .. but same. I believe bqz they said it would take 20 years to make a vaccine agaisnt it. That was a few months ago 😳 .

  6. “Here’s Why That’s Bad Idea” I’m not taking advice form you. You’re in such a hurry to post your stupid story that you don’t even proof read the title.

    1. The problem isnt the title. (Your right though) the problem is that the first thing she says is we are probably looking at a CFR of .5! B#@!$ where? You must be looking at thoughs countrys that were prepared for this. So far 2 countrys have got below a 1.0 and most are sitting between 2 and 3 with Italy currently at a 5%! Stop speculating numbers you think sound better!!

  7. He’s talking about payroll tax breaks to help, but what about others living on pensions or social security?

  8. Tomorrow’s news forecast:

    People wearing masks to protect themselves from Coronavirus are robbing stores.

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