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In Trump’s America problems aren’t dealt with , they are lied about.
@FartherDude He’s the boss of the navy
@NWKB but its so gratifying pointing out the shortfalls of my fellow humans, paticularly with the anonimities of youtube and other antisocial media platforms, y’moron
@Spencer Anderson you misspelled Fox….
Firefighter: I smell smoke
Mayor: Youre fired
I loved it. Good observation
We all know that notifying your immediate supervisor in the military of action about action that needs to be taken, means no action gets taken.
Big companies and governments are just big behemoths that are full of red tape, group think, and bureaucracy.
Sometimes you have to go outside the chain of command to get results. They would have stonewalled had he taken the traditional route.
The ironic thing is after all of this, the government did nearly exactly what Capt. Crotier requested, it removed soldiers from the ship, and quarantined them.
As he stated, “We are not at war”. The government wanted the USS Theodore Roosevelt to be at the ready. Ready for what???
At the same Thursday briefing, the chief of naval operations, Adm. Michael Gilday, said the Navy expects commanders to handle matters “calmly and unemotionally.”
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/02/826317152/uss-roosevelt-commander-removed-after-criticizing-handling-of-coronavirus-outbre
We all know if Gilday had any immediate family in danger or at risk, he would certainly not act Vulcan or be unemotional about it.
Do not worry about Captain Crotier. The military will let him retire with his full credentials. He will find work in the private sector or academia, and maybe write a book.
“I was just following orders” – Nazis
A true hero will not follow amoral orders.
What about here
https://theintercept.com/2019/07/10/pentagon-airstrikes-civilian-casualties-somalia/
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-us-fight-against-isis-653564
Then how could u run a state
@R OwO With intelligence, reason, compassion and integrity. A liberal helping of respect for the truth goes nicely into the mix too.
“I was just following orders”- americans
@Sebastian Deutschl So right, Sebatsian – and nice to meet you! If you have guessed I am not American, you are correct. 😀 To the many Americans, though, who do support the captain in this situation – good on you!
Did EXACTLY what a leader is supposed to do protect his troops. The non leaders in the administration could not let that stand. to easy to see how ineffective and self dealing they are when you compare to Captain Crozier. The nation owes Captain Crozier a huge debt of gratitude. In a time when so many hide from their responsibilities and duties he steps up and does the right thing. Did you see his troops when he left the ship? Did it sound like they were disappointed in his performance? Nope they were grateful and so are the vast majority of thinking civilians. Beats the tar out of the piece of crap who is supposed to be leading this country!
“Just following orders” while people die is not an excuse anymore. No one is going to die for you nimrods. Help these sailors NOW!! The captain is a hero!
@Wjpea J Navy Catain is an O6 not an General. And the Navy has Admirals not Generals.
@Mickey EPlainly you know nothing of the importance of keeping a military mission secret from the world at large so a potential enemy might not want to attack. You are so profoundly devoid of reason and logic I have only one option left to me. I will ignore you going forward.
@Digit09z you pay attention – his boss said he broke the chain of command by going public- major security breach- I work in security- he could have been courtmarshalled
@mike swiental His boss did not say that. The article said his email was leaked to the media, never mentioned who did it. I work in the cyber security arena and fully understand both sides of the argument so please save the fodder and need to educate someone via YouTube for another day. The guy sent an email to his command and it was leaked to the media. Some news outlets are painting the picture he leaked it because it creates a certain level of protectionism for the current administration. By having him fired it sends a message to everyone else that most Presidents are too thin skinned to deal with folks speaking out when in bucks their messaging in a time of crisis. And we all know this President is thin skinned as they get.
@mike swiental now lets address your statement. Court martialed for what exactly? Site the UCMJ violation you claim he made. Not a paraphrased conspiracy theory, factually what he did in violation of UCMJ. And on that note, how do you know what the facts are? Because you heard it from your favorite news outlet? Or you have a cousin with a best friend who went to high school with someone who is on that boat and they read the Facebook posting so it has to be true? Your in security, what type exactly? I hope you don’t respond with some dumb chit like mercenary or mall cop.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
@Dainty Minnie OUTSTANDING COMMENT
@Bill resorting to personal attacks just lowers yourself to those attacks and maybe I’m misunderstanding something but how is that not in compliance with social distancing? By my understanding people who work on aircraft carriers or ships in general, work in tight areas and close proximity the opposite of social distancing. What this captain wanted was to quarantine people on the ship somewhere nearby while having the minimum required workforce to keep the ship running thus social distancing. We can even see the exact problem he wanted to prevent happen, happening a massive outbreak of the virus appeared on the ship as an exact consequence of the Captains plan not being allowed to go through correct?
Bill Bill, I don’t think _you_can handle the truth. The men on that ship are literally, monetarily, more valuable than Trump will ever be, monetarily.
And in human terms, any of them is more valuable than Trump.
You seem to know something of of courts-martial. You say you do, and so you say.
This is going to be a High Mass. the Captain is going to be the good guy. There are going to be “Easter Scenes” as a Full Bull once said to me.
They know they’ve got nothing on the Captain, or he’d already be restricted to quarters. He’s not. He won’t be.
Bless your heart, you know so much and are so tough and rigid. What’s that French word?…A real Martinet.
@majtom58 You prove the Scriptures well: “For it is better to ne thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
I will ignore you now.
BTW it’s apparent you do not know that the Capt requested the transfer. SMH
Bill Bill, from you that is high praise indeed. I looked at the comments-and this is not for Bill, who says he will ignore-capital letter “”IDIOTS” about, for the font of all knowledge would appear to be Bill. Raving lunacy? Let you be the judge.
As far as _asking_ for the transfer, I know not. That is not how the commander in Chief spins it. But retaliation and anger and shouting appears to be your milieu.
Well, sorry that this is how you face the possibility of death, Bill. But I guess you are an immortal god, as well as an apt pupil of a most evil and wicked man. I can’t change you. You are one unhappy person. Pity. You write daily well.
We live in a world where a Navy Seal convicted of murder, is pardoned and his medals restored. And a Navy Captain trying to save his crew is relived of command.
Actually he was found NOT GUILTY, get your facts right.
Marvin Flatt – convicted according to Fox News’ own webpage (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-clemency-army-officers-accused-of-war-crimes-navy-seal-eddie-gallagher).
Are you saying Fox is FAKE NEWS?
Michael Archangel – Lies? My statement is accurate according to Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-clemency-army-officers-accused-of-war-crimes-navy-seal-eddie-gallagher). He was convicted. So if I’m wrong then it means Fox is FAKE NEWS!
@CCJJ160Channels link didn’t work, so I looked for myself anyway, yes aquitted of murder, guilty of posing in a pic…..like I said who gives a rip, fox is a step above, but not the be all and end all..if you are talking fake news follow madcow, lemmony Snicket, Jake crapper, Acosta etc..you know exactly whom I mean
@Michael Archangel Fox News is *NOT* a “step above”. Fox News is a steaming pile of crap- same as all mainstream media is. Stop falling for the BS. Stop helping to spread the lies. Raise your standards. You are no different from being a Hillary supporter. You ARE a Hillary supporter. Trump=Hillary=Trump. ..Wake up. *Wake UP* .
Trump pardons war criminals and punishes captains looking out for their crews.
So he “violated” the chain of command? Is he getting a “code red” now? Always look out for your soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines. As a leader that is your first job. Well done sir.
Hector Latorre Do you want the truth?
@FoxIII I can’t handle the truth.
@Hector Latorre I appreciate your cander.
Judging by his crew, it looks like the people who decided to remove Crozier had “extremely poor judgement”.
*hypocritical* .
Without a doubt.
Don’t do as I do, do as I say..
“Oh Captain, my Captain”. He put his men before himself – now that’s a leader to follow.
Debbie Whatt your comment moved me to tears.
None of those men will follow him by getting kicked out of the Navy, they will follow the chain of command, they understand such a basic tenant of service to country
Relieved that man of command for protecting his men. Cadet bone spurs strikes again
Sends a real bad message to the future possible recruits doesn’t it.
No, im in the DOD, and if you act like a child and you command an aircraft carrier you need to be taken care of and replaced.
@Alex Plemmons what happened to “leave no soldier behind?” Only applies when it doesn’t ruffle the Orange Man’s ego? Move the SS McCain?
@Krystal Myth look Trump did the same thing to ITALY! if it wasn’t on CNN I would refuse to believe it.
MANUEL VIKINGO Where’s your proof? Please include the link!
This world will be a better place for all, only if all the world leaders acted like this captain does.
A true hero that touches not only the hearts of the Americans, but also the hearts of the non Americans!
Say cheers?
Cheers!
I am an Australian. I know zilch about the politics of the USA. Captain Crozier is the type of leader the US deserves. He tried to put the welfare of those he has been entrusted to lead first and foremost and was punished for it. The Navy says the ship cannot be evacuated because the “sailors are needed to perform essential tasks”. Well at present they are busy fighting to avoid spreading Covid-19 to their ship mates. Please for the sake of people like me all over the world who are terrified by the questionable stability of your “Commander” someone needs to enact Amendment XXV of your Constitution. This is a black stain on the history of your great country.
A leader that doesn’t care about soldiers’ life is a terrible leader.
@Mike P >>>That ship is gone literally and figuratively when news of sailors caught the virus broke<<< That is correct, the enemies of the US should not have that information. That information should have never "broke". >>>we all know how contagious the virus is and Aircraft carrier is a floating petridish<<< And so do the enemies of the US. You still do not understand the importance of guarding force readiness information. Do you? SMH
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
Theodore Roosevelt
One of the smartest men to ever lead this country.
A leader that betrays his mission, there by betraying our nation, belongs at the end of the hangman’s rope!
“Soldiers are Pawns of War” “Soldiers are expendable idiots” There’s been no so called leader in our lives that place any value on the lives of a common man!
@gene kilp I only learned two words of Vietnamese and share them with you now “PHA QU”
He was relieved of duty for doing the right thing. He’s a hero in my eyes.
@thowe624 No he didn’t!
@Ten Sang Liew China Virus is every where now. Even a small island in Pacific still get it.
@Victor Torres He brought the virus onto the ship when he docked the ship at Danang Port 20 days ago. Search youtube for this.
@Jake MacHine he did follow the chain of command. His letter to his superior was leaked at the above level.
@Cu Tèo the virus was in china months before he docked.. what are you smoking
The department of the Navy really fucked up with this act.
these are the same people who got lost going to NK and nearly attacked Australia.
The captain was protecting his crew. That’s his job.
@marta green somehow I doubt the captain has a French wine vineyard. He did have, until he requested a transfer, a ships company otherwise know as a crew. Hope that helps.
Bill have no clue what you talking about
I gather you like wine and you are an alcoholic
@marta green not a drop since July 4th, 1993. So I will share with you the only two words of Vietnamese I ever learned “PHA QU” now I’ll ignore you.
Bill pshel na huy
Bill 👍
C’mon, we ALL know that Trump can’t have any Honorable people in his Government structure.