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    1. Because if anybody goes into the ER with an acute lung issue, the CDC demands that they ask if they vape. If they do than the cause is determined to be vaping before there is even a diagnosis. For example if the CDC came out with a Nike-related food injury and people with foot a injury in the ER were asked if the had Nike shoes. Say you were hiking in some timberland’s and stepped on a nail, but had a pair of Nike’s in your closet, then stepping on a nail was a case of Nike-related foot injury. Get it?
      If you get the flu and vape, then you have vaping-related lung illness. If a chemical spills at your job and you are hospitalized from inhalation and vape, then you have vaping-related lung illness. They can’t clear the cases because the cause explicit even when it is impossible.

      It’s a fraud, and CDC employees were buying tobacco stocks after they set this up. The director of the CDC stepped down because of it.
      ‘public health professionals’ have gone rouge. They have declared war on nicotine vaping and are lying pathologically. They have no concern for public health at all. For many their money comes from tobacco from the MSA.

  1. What gets me certain states are banning vapor products but not cigarettes…like we need a nanny to tell us what is good for us…you wonder why they are not banning big tobacco.

    1. @Adrian Toko 12 million vapers in the USA, vaping has been going on in the USA for 10 years, not one single death from flavored e cig vaping in the USA untill the last 3 monthes and most are THC issues where the lungs cannot process oils and the black market Weed carts have oils in them, so vaping flavored e cigs is nothing to worry about unless you listen to some politician who has never vaped flavored e juice in the life and knows nothing about it. Politicians also would freak out if their sons were buying weed vape carts and died from it and would rather say their sons were vaping flavored nicotine e cigs.
      In England 92 deaths were linked to the use of Statin drugs, is that an epidemic that is starting a bunch of States to ban them?

    2. @GamersAnonymous4me makes no difference. Vaping does not kill you instantly or maybe not at all. The act of putting other gases into your lungs other natural air is always with a risk, sooner or later, of having adverse effects.

  2. Just stick to the things that we definitely know are unsafe like smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol.

    1. Both aren’t making people fall dead after one or two uses either dumb dumb, you people are stupid. Go on, Vape and die, it matters none to me.

    2. Clearly it’s better for you than both smoking and drinking. I used to smoke, got tired when I ran, sick in the winter. Now that I vape, I can run and i never get sick, 10 years of vaping. Maybe don’t have vaping contests to see who can make the biggest cloud.

    3. How about they pass laws that regulate the juice more strictly and have scientific studies on the effects of these juices. Banning vaping products will only make this worse.

    1. Mom n pop needs to get with the program and have their drugs validated and tested, too. As it is, its a free-for-all with zero testing and quality control. You might as well be buying molly in an alley, you really have no idea what you’re getting, only that it _is supposed_ to contain a *very* potent poison, and trusting that they weren’t too drunk or careless when mixing up that batch.

    2. Exactly this.

      The ingredients in nicotine e liquid (not drugs here) are simple and straight forward. We know exactly what is in the liquids. The PG and VG are used in prescription inhalants (asthma inhalers) and are widely studied and known to be safely inhaled. Nicotine is also safely inhaled (not tobacco). Don’t be fooled by the tobacco propagandists.

      E-cigarettes (nicotine) should not be classified because of some dummy vaping drugs with them. Just as we don’t blame the spray can for someone huffing paint.

    3. @pr0xZen no actually we do know what is in our eliquids. It’s on the fda website for each liquid that is registered and theres THOUSANDS! every single ingredient inside the bottle is listed… Now the issue with all this poison crap from the enws is the illicit black market thc carts and not vaping eliquids that save smokers from a horrible life

    4. E-liquids at vape shops are made in clean rooms as they are very regulated. Devices requires giving millions to the FDA to get them approved. No regs for THC/CBD or products from China.

  3. It’s street THC carts w/ Vitamin E…how is this missed by these “experts” who blame it on nicotine?

    1. Because some report not using THC carts. Some report the problem using just nicotine. Don’t discount facts just because you disagree with them.

    2. @harshbarj There would have to be clinical studies to prove something. If you have the story given by a teenage of what he was using, you are pretty naive as most teens would never admit to doing drugs in their vape. You would also have to have alot of history showing their condition prior to vaping which is non-existant most of the time. In any case the doctors have a very poor history of determining the cause of anything. If they knew the cause of cancer they could stop it. The cause of COPD they could stop it. Why do they only give you drugs you will have to use for the rest of your life to “manage” your health issues, its because they cant tell you the cause and stop that condition by treatment.

    3. @liberty Ann But when you buy cannabis oil (THC or CBD or mixture) meant for topical application, that oil often contains vitamin E. That’s fine if it is used as intended. But, if you heat it, the vitamin E is converted to a toxin. When someone fills a cartridge with oil meant to be rubbed on the skin, it has proven to be fatal.

    4. Dong LeMoan dumb comment. I see u posting this stupidity all over YouTube. Cigarettes are the only danger here. NOT VAPING NICOTINE.

  4. Vaping: We don’t know if this is safe so we need to ban a multi-billion dollar industry.
    Alcohol and Cigarettes: We know these kill millions of people every year but it generates a lot of tax revenue and the lobbies bribe us so YOLO!

    1. @harshbarj Vaping what? People have been vaping flavored nic juice for over a decade with NO negative effects until the last 6 months or so. Did you know that just this year, a new oil-based thickening agent was released on the market specifically for THC-oil? Why are these “vapers” getting sick with lipoid pneumonia (caused by oil in the lungs) when there is NO OIL is flavored nic juice?

    2. @gary duran Alcohol and tobacco is already so heavily regulated, got its own god damn agency with over 5000 employed investigators and special agents. The latter, are pharmacutical treatment agents for pain management, anyone using them for recreational reasons or purposes are illegally (ab)using them, Idiot. The ones I expect you’re meaning, are schedule II narcotics ffs (and a few schedule III). And those are even WAY more heavily regulated again, enforced by the DEA, over 10 000 strong, and FDA, over 15 000.

      At the end of the day, you really should think thrice before rolling painkillers into this. They’re meds. I know there’s a _very_ serious epidemic of overuse, overprecription and abuse going on, but at the end of the day they’re fully legitimate medical pharmacuticals, of which there’s millions of people that have actual medical need for to get through the day with some resemblance of life quality. Any regulation lacking there, is not on the substances themselves, but a far too laxed oversight for the supply chain.

      Alcohol, tobacco, vapes (at least in the forms and context at hand here) though – purely recreational substances.

      Comparing practically utterly unregulated vapes to the rest of these, is mute unless for extrapolating experiences from other substances, on _how to regulate_ it. And IMO that’s a bit overboard until we know more. Initially, we should at least consider mandatory quality control and 2-stage batch test verification; as the chemical properties of many of these fluids really _do_ change significantly after initial mixing. Imports should require certification and verifiable proof of same QC and batch testing.

      And these powerful, high-current vapes need to go or be regulated separately, as they superheat the fluid base to the polymerization stage and beyond, so that it’s no longer an inert vapor, but aerosolized particulates with completely different properties. Ie., smoke. Many of the esters and acids commonly used don’t take kindly to superheating, and the aldehydes are seriously sketchy from the get-go.

  5. Why do they keep saying noone knows what is causing this? Lol
    Black market ANYTHING is subject to be unhealthy…duh!

    1. I’ve been saying it from day one. This isn’t about safety, it is about marketshare. The mainstream media has really started to show its true face despite the overwhelming pushback from the people.

    1. They have known for about 2 years, about the Eagle 20 contaminated weed that gives off hydrogen cyanide and hydrogen chloride.

  6. I’m so annoyed how they are going after vaping and have never went after cigarettes all the harm they have caused😕

    1. @J W They don’t kill after one use silly, everything in this world can and will kill you and not smoking or drinking matters none. Cancer can hit without you doing either one so cut the crap. I’m sick of yall basically saying Cigarettes and Alcohol is worse than this, I’m sorry but neither of them are killing at an everyday, one-two usage rate.

    2. @Joshua Rivers how about not having something that will kill you now or kill you later… just because the results are immediate makes it scary but it should be just as equally scary that people are profiting off a addictive drug that should fall into the category of illegal addictive drugs.

    3. @J W Everything will kill you dummy, there’s nothing on this planet that can’t kill you now and or later period but it’s better to die later than early. Stop being scared and live but live smart. I smoke Cigarettes and they aren’t giving me health issues nor are they killing me after one or two usages.🤷🏽‍♂️

  7. The FDA doesn’t have complete control of the vaping industry: here is how they bully their way in.

    1. They have the legal nicotine vape totally regulated. THC/CBD and certainly not street drug dealers. Counterfeit/off brand Juul?
      Juul wants over-regulation to drive out competition, like flavor bans. They now have the only legal flavors and all vape shops close.

    1. They just say “vaping” and never bother to emphasize the products to blame. Like the actual vape machine is the problem.

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