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A 16-year-old Guatemalan migrant, sick with the flu, died in border patrol care, according to new reporting. While discussing the House speaker's stance on immigration and Dreamers, the panel calls out conservative hypocrisy on immigrants. Aired on 12/06/19.
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Nancy Pelosi Fills A Moral Void Once Filled By Evangelicals | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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    1. @Rocco Lore Wrong…i didn’t vote for Obama…he is not my “boy” – and boy is a racist term, BTW…so you have NO ARGUMENT. Defend Trump, come on, without reffering to people NOT in power. Come on, try it. If they both did it it DOES not justify it…but you don’t care do you?

  1. Remember when Trump started locking up kids, we heard the cry of a child that touched our core, and we asked, where are the girls? Now we don’t even ask anymore, we just accept it and move on. We’ve come so far down.

    1. Rocco Loco  …  Take your trumpian doctrine & flush it down the cesspool of your mind!!  trump has undone every decent & humane thing that President Obama fought his Repukigan congress for!!  You trumpers are worse than your glorious crook of a leader is!!  He adores Hitler & all the insane tyrants of history & is trying to help resurrect their doctrines  …  Hitler targeted the Jewish people of the world & trump is just targeting anyone who doesn’t kowtow to his fiendish whims!!  Why doesn’t he go to Russia & move in with his lover putin & leave the rest of the world in Peace??  And  …  why don’t all you trumpians follow him?? Your kind are not needed here among decent people!!  I’m done responding to your ILK!!  Begone SATAN!!

    2. Mary Rodger Yes maybe so. I’ve noticed in the past 12 months, I can no longer tell the difference between Russian bot responses and red hats. The two have merged.

  2. Its absolutely disgusting how they treated him like he didn’t matter. He turned himself in to border patrol for asylum. He did things right! Yet they treated him worse than an animal.

    1. @Shawn Smith wat does that matter you never abswered what i said .. does not matter but we aint talking border patrol we are talking ice …

    2. I am not so sure that IF a wall could be successfully built that it would not be a good idea; a nation must be able to control the influx of peoples into it whether it be the USA or England or Ital or any other.. However, let’s be frank: Trump is a morally indecent person and if people are going to be held in involuntary detention at the border then they must have at least the minimum food, water, shelter, clothing, hygiene, and medical treatment the Geneva conventions require for POW’s. Trump only cares for the rich, powerful, and those that can help him and his family.

      There is one serious flaw about the apostate Nancy Pelosi taking the role of the Evangelicals–Pelosi and many Evangelicals agree about one thing and one people: is USA policy good for the Jews and Israel or not? By the way, Israel controls its borders-which are continuing to expand.

  3. Yes they like power and trump has brought out the worst in them that was lurking. Terrible. RIP young beautiful previous young man

    1. They were already at their worst when they chose someone as blatantly nasty, dishonest, and amoral as Trump, and then declared Trump was God’s choice. This moral corruption was common currency among republicans and among evangelical Christians, before Trump took the reins. That is why Trump was able to get them, they were already corrupt.

    2. @Shawn Smith He’s a depraved pathetic moron who has been conning people for decades. He only worships 2 things : Himself and money!

  4. Thank you for speaking out Joe. It is utterly DISGUSTING they care more about a bundle of cells in a woman’s uterus than they do about air breathing thinking and feeling human children. My first thought was animals in shelters are given exponentially more care than this poor child ever received.

    1. The soul inhabits it’s earthly form on the first breath, and leaves on its last! Man steps in occasionally to prevent death prematurely or during an accident or illness! The fetus is still part of the woman up to that point, not an individual! It’s not murder, but it does prevent a soul from entering this world for the experiences it needs, to evolve spiritually! Those souls wait for the next chance, that presents itself!

    2. @tesladrive1 I’m atheist and don’t believe in souls. What I do believe in though is caring for our fellow humans, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, the way I would want to be treated.

    3. @Fred’s_mom That small voice that few pay attention to in our head, that many call our conscience, is your higher self warning you of making a bad decision, that will affect your future, is that part of you that is Soul! It’s there for all to hear, but the mind is too busy and loud, to hear it! Quiet the mind, and you will hear that part of you that is Soul! With practice, it becomes easier! Meditation and contemplation, are helpful! You’ll know when you are there! Listen to it, and follow it’s direction! It’s part of you! Once there, you will be a believer! God’s gift, is existence itself! That’s no small gift! Religion is a step on the path, and sometimes a rocky one, and not necessarily needed, as it can slow spiritual advancement! Look within yourself, thats where your Soul resides, not in the physical world!

  5. Evangelicals are going to pay for Trump debacle for a very very long time and it is appropriately so. Disgusting.

    1. @Bruce Bartup How so? I have a lot of respect for Mr Dawkins, and wish I could argue half as well as he did.

    2. @ Jonny Sevent …You think Exodus 21 invalidates the entire Bible? LOL…so they had a welfare system that looked after the poor 3000 years ago? Slave was another word for servant, and very different to the slavery enacted by your colonial masters a few centuries ago. Servants were not treated like animals, they were looked after as part of the household and in return they helped run the estate of their masters. In those times it was not seen as something negative it was actually something positive for them, without a way to feed and home yourself you starved. You are fooling yourself if you believe you are not a slave to your political masters now. You pay your taxes to them or you go to jail, you pay to live on their estates or you live on the streets, in fact you pay for the privilege to exist with no option to even build a hut in the woods and live off the land like they did 3000 years ago. So you didn’t paint anybody into a corner as Does Not Comply mocks, you just confirmed you are unable to read a sealed book like the Bible, but don’t fret, almost all who call themselves Christians don’t understand the truths beneath the parables in the Bible either.

  6. Those border patrol agents should be charged with murder and Trump’s sick staff manslaughter

    1. @Landon’s Chanel this one celled worm doesn’t deserve a comment or response. but you have more civility than I do to this paraquat.

    2. @Rocco Lore I said don’t respond to me your lies have no power over me. you human paraquat. By the way, I’m an Irish Catholic nun. and when I have free time I only do this for amusement, sometimes. go back to the bible look up Matt. 23:27 I doubt even it’s truth could pierce your brain of fodder. but I’ll pray for you, maybe. just don’t respond to me I will not comment. I have better work to do.

  7. I agree with Joe. Jesus would disown all evangelicals and call them followers of Satan as he did with the priests in Jerusalem.

    1. @Jeremy Backup Jesus was no friend to Ceasar and the Roman Empire.
      So no Jesus would not be a liberal democrat nor a fan of Big Government, he would actually be talking to the Persecuted Church in China, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and to those persecuted for their faith in Christ….

    2. @Aida Ortiz So who is the POOR? do you know? “Revelation 3:17-You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. Who did not get Justice? Did Christ’s Apostles get justice? Does the Persecuted Church in China, Iran, Afghanistan get justice? Do Christians in America that STAND for Biblical Marriage and for life and for Family get Justice? Did GOD allow the foreigner in Israel the ability to change their way of life? to bring their pagan worship to the Public Square????

    3. @Leonardo’s Truth The Catholic Church is the False Prophet, Changing the Sabbath Day to Sunday celebrating Paganism, they are NOT the Church Jesus recognizes that is full of Pedophiles and Homosexuals.

  8. Spot on about Jesus and this bizarre evangelical phenomenon which is so far from Christ. It is scary to see how powerful this apostate religion has become.

    1. I suspect they more devoutly follow the far more destructively-driven character of God found in the Old Testament; the god that purged almost all life in the flood, only to on to engage in several holy wars and bloody sacrifices after humanity recovered.

    2. Yes. I think it precedes the falling away mentioned in 2 Thes 2. These Christians are not real Christians. To be a Christian one must be born again (John 3:7) Christ comes to live in our hearts. We are no longer the same. We think and do as Christ is and did and no longer follow and obey the nature of the flesh. And sadly a lot of churches don’t teach that we must be born again to be saved.

    3. @Billy Raymond I totally agree. They do not follow the message and examples of Jesus.
      They also do not realize that the “Old Testament” they quote, is actually the Jewish bible of a vengeful Abrahamic God. They very seldom, if ever, quote the New Testament and its Gospels. There simply is not enough “fire and brimstone” in the teachings of Jesus for their liking. I actually don’t know what kind of “religion” they think they are practicing.

    1. forced birth, forced obedience, forced conformity.
      With them, it’s all about The Party, and the Dear Leader of the Party.
      The Dear Leader must be obeyed. The Party must be obeyed.
      Obedience to the Red Republican communist Party will be enforced.

    1. _“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion…and as this is the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.”_
      *- Thomas Paine – The Age of Reason (1794)*
      http://www.deism.com/images/theageofreason1794.pdf

    1. Amen. White Evangelicals are and always have been the “religious” arm of American white supremacy. Period.

    2. LOL, right!?!?!
      _“The study of theology, as it stands in Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authorities; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion…and as this is the case with Christian theology, it is therefore the study of nothing.”_
      *- Thomas Paine – The Age of Reason (1794)*
      http://www.deism.com/images/theageofreason1794.pdf

    3. Are they the idiots that aren’t allowed to wear t-shirts because they show too much skin? Or are those just other religious idiots?

  9. Why haven’t we heard about the arrest of the officers who refused to let the little boy get medical attention?!

    1. Barbara McCormack  ..  What republican leaders??  The nunes, jordan, graham. mcconnells, radcliffes, and the list goes on ad infinitum  ..  the scum of America  ..  not republican leaders!!  The republican GOP is long gone & the names of republicans of the past are besmirched forever!!  Hope these vermin are proud of their new party  ..  it’s not going to last very long once the decent Republicans of America that are left get rid of them!!  Maybe bipartisanship can then be restored as it once was  …  both sides working to make America Great once more!!  GOD Bless AMERICA

  10. When you look at the cruelty and the deaths done at the hands of Trump and his helpers, it becomes clear that he’s right up there with the Butcher of Bosnia. Hopefully someday all these people will be awaiting their trial at the Hague for crimes against humanity.

  11. Whoever let this child die in jail needs to be charged with murder. They knowingly neglected the health of a sick child and made the decision not to take them to the hospital. The murder of this child brings shame to all Americans.

    1. @Alex Ocasio-Gomez
      It *is* murder but Americans don’t seem to care, Since Jan 1 2014 Americans have shot to death over 80,000 fellow Americans. many of them children.
      Yet no-one does anything. It’s sick.

    2. @Dulcie Gray Then why didn’t democrats complain until a sick mexican crawled across the border? Americans have been dying for over 200 years.

  12. White evangelicals have been this way for quite some time, where were they during Jim Crow, civil rights etc etc they can be truly evil

    1. Yeah, really good christen-s. Hitler sid the same: let them die if they are not blond and have no blue eyes. The catholic church supported that behaviour. Till 1986 the catholic church took gypsy baby’s away from their mothers in Switserland, because Sw. did not want to have gypsies in their country. Really good christian people.
      The worse of all, they raise their children and they will do the same when they are adults. Or…. it stops because there are still people protesting against it! Like a radio and tv organisation in The Netherlands vpro) made documentaries weeks after weeks about those gypsy nightmare in Sw. Finally by those publications, this fascism ended: forbidden to do so.
      So… “be Love in Action” ❤

    2. Tracy Davison it’s true. If these were European kids there would be no detention centers. We better face some truth in this country. It’s a racist country and has always been. And when people complain they are told to stop playing the race card. These kids weren’t playing the race card. They sought Amnesty which is LEGAL.

    3. White kids have been dying for centuries. It took a brown kid crawling across the border before democrats noticed.

  13. Stay woke America is “brainwashed” and doesn’t care what happens we our on are end of times stay woke!

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