Mike Pence Strains Credulity With ‘Obliviousness’ Defense | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

Greg Miller, national security reporter for the Washington Post, talks with Nicolle Wallace about Mike Pence's argument that he had no idea about the subtext of the message he was delivering to Ukrainian President Zelensky, and the growing amount of reporting on the opportunities Pence had to be better informed, as well as his responsibility to do so. Aired on 10/03/19.
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Mike Pence Strains Credulity With 'Obliviousness' Defense | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC

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  1. Pence’s duplicitous behavior in Trump’s scandal is obvious, regardless of how hard he backpaddles with his obfuscation.

  2. So – Pence discussed exactly the same with the Ukrainian president as Trump did. In other words: He’s guilty too.

    1. Exactly. Perfect. Well-said. Now if the Dems would impeach: Trump; Pence; Pompeo; and Barr. Fire them all. Then indict them all. Then prosecute them all. Then finally: jail them all. Amen. Hello, Democrats: are you listening? You have all the evidence you need after the deposition of Mr Karl Volker, plus Trump asking China – now – to invent dirt on the Bidens.

    2. @l maille
      So… after that – for perfect justice – the then President Pelosi should make Bernie her VP and then resign.

      (Not that I think she would do that).

  3. Trump: “Make sure to pardon me when you become President.”
    Mike: “I Have a favor, though….”

    1. censredchinese.if the orange land walrus , is impeached and removed from office, which would see pence president. A pardon from pence would only cover federal crimes, it cannot be used for impeachment crimes, or state crimes. so his only option is to resign. Just goes to show, that even though nixon was a crook, he wasn’t stupid

    2. @England Calling as I said, there is going to be a continuous flow of “whistle blowers” coming from the Deep State now. – IRS whistle blower said to report Treasury political appointee might have tried to interfere in audit of Trump or Pence – it will be non stop to the end of the presidency

  4. Pence destroyed Indiana’s economy and he’s a typical evangelical hypocrite. Trump’s swamp of cronies defies Constitutional law and obstructs more than Nixon and Watergate.

    1. I absolutely love and agree with this comment. It is in the very fundamental nature of christianity to lie about reality.

    2. @Dee Jeff Nah, that fake christian doesn’t have any Black in him. That lier is a respected fake christian by his own in his own community.

    3. Funny, The Republicans in Illinois run adds that say Indiana has a great economy because Democrats ruined Illinois’ economy by overtaxing corporations, who are flocking to Indiana.

  5. Don’t let Pence’s ‘church lady’ act fool you. His hands are in all the pies, and Mother probably knows about it too.

    1. @Leonie Romanes Naw I don’t think so cause Bitchboy isn’t going down alone. When Congress get through with the white house it will be cleansed of all.evil spirits that dewell there now.

    2. He’s got down pat the religious cadence and pauses to invite reflection of his “deep” words, but it’s all an act. He must spend a lot of time on his knees asking for forgiveness for the lies he tells – that he will go out and repeat the very next day. Rinse, repeat. That’s just hypocritical. The stuff that he doesn’t feel the need to ask forgiveness for because he “deeply believes” in it, is truly awful.

    3. anon ymous – Pence, McConnell & Ryan are some of the darkest, most diabolical people in gov. Really sick ppl. The shinier the suit, the darker the substance.

  6. Don’t let Pence’s ‘church lady’ act fool you. His hands are in all the pies, and Mother probably knows about it too.

  7. They all know that the orange guy behaves like a criminal lunatic and these enablers just go with it to save themselves. There is just no honor or decency with these guys.

    1. His answer pretty much confirms it. He said he discussed the same issues as Trump raised in the call, and Trump specifically discussed Biden and his son.

    2. The defense is : it is against corruption, which could be true IF the subject was brought up by the Ukraine asking help from the US , that didn’t happen..it was the US (president) asking Ukraine (and afterwards china) for an investigation on corruption (targeting a political opponent) so the complete corruption defense is a fraud especially because it was supposed to be a favor (though). Secondly a lot of actions where handled by Trumps personal lawyer, making it a personal adventure not a state affair. So I really don’t understand why all these republicans are using these kind of defenses, it really has no validity what so ever.

    3. @Jan Girbes My thinking in all this is that Bill Clinton should have asked a woman from Ukraine or from China for a BJ. Maybe Republicans would have been okay with that.

  8. I don’t trust Pence for a second. He’s an immoral, hypocritical liar and belongs in jail with Trump.

  9. As I’ve asked elsewhere, “Who is the Designated Survivor”. Will the US of A get it’s 1st woman president?
    The ironic fact is that it would be caused by Donny.

    1. @R Wags while it is not outside the realms of possibility that the senate would vote to remove trump from office. Voting to remove pence as well would be a non starter, as they know that the speaker of the house would become president. I cannot see the GOP senators voting for that no matter what the evidence

    2. BigBadLoneWolf… True. However, I was speculating that they are closely entwined. ie: conspirators in the same constitutional illegalities.

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