Joy Reid On How Women Candidates Are (Still) Punished For Their Ambitions | The Last Word | MSNBC

Joy Reid talks to Lawrence O’Donnell how women candidates are held to a different standard than male ones—and what will have to happen for a woman president to finally be elected.
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Joy Reid On How Women Candidates Are (Still) Punished For Their Ambitions | The Last Word | MSNBC

43 comments

    1. Haha … I placer mine gold on my claim on Spruce Creek…. and camp at Last Chance ghost town.

  1. Please, Hillary won the popular vote.
    Also, Warren lost because she backpedaled on M4A, attempted to hurt Bernie with BS and she embraced super pacs.
    Personally, I was going to vote for her because she’s competent and would have liked to have a fighter like her for for 8 years but after all her stunts I passed.

    1. My God, why would you admit your ignorance in helping to get Trump elected.
      Wait… wait… “ARMY AVIATION!” … OK … I’m Navy Seabees, now I understand.

  2. I went with Bernie over Warren because I didn’t think Bernie voters would accept another “almost.” Something like 12% voted with Trump in 2016. I expect it will be higher this time around.

    1. Bernie supporters are a cult. Trump supporters are a cult. I HATE CULTS. I voted for Elizabeth Warren, and if there’s NOT a woman on the ticket, I will stay home in November.

  3. There’s still a strong woman of color in the running and of all people Joy should realize this. Maybe it’s something as base as jealousy but whatever the reason she should get over it and endorse Tulsi.

    1. Colonel Angus Shhh! I have said that she was the one candidate that could get the moderate Democrats to come out and vote , and would be the greatest threat to Trump being re-elected. Sorry, I voted for Trump in’16 only for the SCOTUS appointments. Have never voted for a candidate since the’80’s. Always SCOTUS.

  4. She turned her campaign into a feminist movement. Women are at their best when they’re not reminding you they’re women every 5 minutes. Which is what her campaign turned into. Obama never used his being black a reason to vote for him. He only talked about the issues. Bernie isn’t talking about being the first Jewish president.

  5. The argument that we need person “A” in the White House based solely on their sexual orientation or gender or race and or ethnicity for that matter is utter b*llsh!t.

    1. That isn’t at all what she said. The fact that democrats had 2 progressives to choose from with nearly identical positions and they chose a man who is a socialist over the woman who was a democrat and who also actually had a plan while Bernie doesn’t is what she was addressing. That if democrats really want to put forth a woman as a candidate for the white house they will when women in the party decide that choice, equal pay, opportunity, medical coverage, advancemen, etc. are the most important issues to them and that women nationally will vote for a woman who addresses all those issues, especially as someone who knows, instead of a man who doesn’t. You are responding to a comment that wasn’t made.

  6. Warren has proved she has no political instincts AT ALL! This is what people see. Stop shaming people with sexism. She has fractured a movement for high hopes whilst coming in last in every state. And she has no foresight! Did she not think her actions could cost her her political career even as a senator.

    1. She had (and still has) the most solid plans of any candidate. Sanders will not show his math on M4A, he will not do anything to stop rampant online abuse, and unfortunately many of her supporters will go to Biden because they don’t see Bernie as a progressive with a path to victory. Warren was the one shot we had for practical progressivism that wouldn’t cost us later. Now she’s out of the race. Biden will likely win the nomination as a result. That has nothing to do with Warren.

    2. John Doe I agree they’ll go to Biden, the ones that have stayed til the end. But the supporters that left prior to her suspending the campaign I believe went to Bernie.

      I hope Bernie and Warren can make a deal but I can’t see it happening.

    3. John Doe also you can’t expect Bernie or any one else not even fictional superheroes to police millions of people about their tweets. It’s unfair to place that burden on Bernie. I mean the media bullies his supporters calling them thugs and misfits form an island of black girls. The media needs to be muzzled and not his supporters who believe in a platform that supports everyone.

      And the term ‘Bernie Bro’s’ man that’s got to be degrading for a female supporter. Name calling is a form of bullying.

    4. @Jack Assaf Elizabeth Warren has concrete steps on her website to fight online misinformation. It’s not just name-calling.

    5. John Doe I still stand by my Original comment that warren made major mistakes. But I would have voted for her over Biden and her over trump.

  7. We’re not allowed to step up and out with ambition. Never has been accepted. Women must insist on being counted.

  8. When Warren was asked if anti-feminism had to do with her not being able to get a leg on the ground, she answered “If I say ‘yes!’ I will be called a ‘whiner’, but if I say ‘no!’ billions of women will ask ‘on what planet do you live, sister?'”
    And of course, she was right with that response.
    However – what (male) anti-feminists and women like to ignore when it comes to (anti-)feminism: half of the electorate is female. But the number of supporters for female candidates don’t represent that reality.
    Even if we acknowledge that Warren wasn’t the only female running, and that therefore the female votes were split among all female candidates…the total of votes never reached the total of available female votes.
    Which means (male) anti-feminists need to stop complaining about “women only voting for women, because feminism…yaddayadda!”, and women need to stop complaining about “women aren’t elected because males aren’t voting for them, yaddayadda!”.
    The truth is: many women also never vote for female candidates. For many reasons. They may think, a woman’s place is at home in the kitchen and the children’s room, or they may think, women aren’t capable of running a whole country, or they may simply not want another woman in a position, that they themselves can’t have (bitchiness is a real thing, you know)…

  9. The simple truth is the Democratic Party is made up of people that are conservative, moderate and progressive and she didn’t get enough of those people to vote for her, especially the women vote. Now back to your Reality TV & FakeBook, drumpf has a great plan to end it all!

  10. I’m surprised that MSNBC would ever have the gumption to post this kind of stuff, without looking in the mirror first. For months when Warren was starting to surge in the polls, I heard nothing good from this network. People like Donny Deutsch on Morning Joe criticized her endlessly for her policies, and even said on air that he would vote for Trump over her! Certain CEOS were allowed to come on and propagate disinformation about how much people would pay in taxes, with no pushback. She was also under a media blackout from the network, and people like Buttigieg and Klobachar were propped up in the media coverage as frontrunners. The Comcast Overlords furiously worked to discount her and Sanders because of the amount of taxes they would have to pay under their plans, and MSNBC needs to acknowledge their role in this tearing down of a candidate. There were some problematic issues in her campaign that should have been fixed, but you guys don’t get to blame sexism as the key cause when your own company is stabbing her in the back.

    1. Anthony Poe where do you get your terrible, irrelevant replies which don’t address any of the points in the original comment?

    1. posting this comment here makes it look like you’re blaming a political minority for their own oppression.

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