FBI & CIA Ex-Dir. Decries Trump & Barr Attacks | The Last Word | MSNBC

The only person ever to lead both the FBI and CIA, William Webster, writes they are "under assault from too many people whose job it should be to protect them." Former FBI assistant Director Frank Figliuzzi and Former FBI General Counsel Andrew Weissmann discuss. Aired on 12/16/19.
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FBI & CIA Ex-Dir. Decries Trump & Barr Attacks | The Last Word | MSNBC

65 comments

  1. The fat hamster doesn’t want a fbi or cia, he wants his personal ss swat team, his kgb. Unless he is resolved in whatever means possible it’s the fall of Rome v2 with Caligula and Nero.

  2. If I were a life long criminal like Trump, and I was currently in the middle of the biggest crime spree of my criminal career, I would hate the FBI and law enforcement officials too.

    1. The Alpengeist everyone could point out to you that Trump is a con, a snake oil salesman. Just look at Trump university where he defrauded people with his worthless classes that he sold for thousands of dollars, just look at how his charities which were found by the new York AG to be misusing donated funds. Nonetheless, people like you don’t look at facts and resort to your baseless talking points which have been propagated by sham outlets like fox news.

    2. @The Alpengeist You’re sort of right. Trump will not be removed from office. But every Repugnican senator that keeps him in his office will lose theirs. That’s what happens when you defend a career criminal and refuse to follow through with your oath of office.

      But Trump’s re-election plans are over. He’s done. You do remember that Hillary won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, right? Well guess what? Those who were on the fence in 2016 won’t be in 2020 after everything Trump has done. He won’t be re-elected. Not after everything he has done and the very existential threat he has posed to this country. That means his attempts at avoiding a prison term will fail. He will no longer be a sitting president, which means he WILL be indicted for his crimes well before the statute of limitations runs out.

      Within a couple of years Trump will wind up in a jumpsuit that closely matches his current spray tan. Then he’ll get all pasty white from lack of sun and spray tan, his toupee will fall off, and his orange jumpsuit will clash with both, especially with it’s big “DOC ########” on the back.

  3. I’m so sick of these campaigns to destroy American’s faith in the agencies that have long served us and kept us safe. These smear campaigns are purely for political gain.

    1. Zoe Emiko: Blind faith in anyone or any agency is a recipe for fascism, whether that faith goes to a president or to career officials. That’s why the Founders believed in checks and balances. If there’s a bad person in the government doing something illegal, there should be watchdogs to catch it before it gets out of hand, whether the illegal act is performed by a president or someone in the FBI, Dept. of Agriculture, or Congress or wherever. The serious and self-serving mistake Donald Trump makes and insists his followers make is to undermine a whole institution because of one egg they consider to be rotten. If you don’t like Amb. Yovanovitch, for example, then a president has the right to recall her from her post. What he should not be doing is suggesting that all the agencies of the federal government are out to get him, without being able to prove one iota of that. Inventing a conspiracy among all these agencies that serve the people can only have one purpose: to weaken those institutions while leaving executive power in place and even increasing it to fill the vacuum left by the weakened institutions, not to root out individual examples of corruption to make them run more efficiently. Unchecked executive power would result in the trashing of our freedoms and the concentration of power in one person, exactly what the Founders warned us never to do.

    2. @Robert Downes FBI assassinated and politically incarcerated black activist (and many other who spoke out against injustices) who wanted to vote, work, and saw the political gain of wars for what it was such as Vietnam and many other war’s fueled by oil and bankers interests and political “profit over people”.

  4. I’m not sure if a lot of Trump supporters are just dimwitted or if they actually want to live in a banana republic, authoritarian state. Either way the consequences are the same and they are not good.

    1. @Ellis McPickle It’s also an anthropologic gregarious survival response to the looming anthropogenic disaster menacing separately the politico/economical fabric of human societies and our environment (though both effects are now teaming up ) .
      What’s egregious is that there indeed is a not that informally coordinated response that is actually worsening the prospects . Ruling “elites” are collectively just as subject to this survival reflex as ordinary people but being “ruling” elites they will attempt to ride the storm using and enabling this survival reflex within populations that support them to barter survival tradeoffs between themselves .
      Most of us know better and yet can’t help ourselves (most of time)conceding the advantage to that reputedly reptilian brain of ours even for the most trivial of selfish and therefor toxic gratifications.
      A bit in rambling rent here and am not absolutely certain I’m making that much sense here , I would though offer one more remark : some populist movements (therefore gregarious) are toxic because their cement is the exclusion of evermore others , other populist movements at least attempt to be as inclusive as they can and maybe not quite as toxic .

    2. They only care about making American white…that’s it. They don’t care what they have to go thru to get there. They blame everyone else now for their problems they have today so they will be talking the same way then. I can hear it now…. “he had to do it to control ‘the bad people’ …if only they would have given up their right we wouldn’t have to go thru this. It’s their fault”. They r already talking about a civil war if he doesn’t get reelected… translation… they will even die for an all white America.

  5. USA becomes a dictatorship the day the Senate cannot remove him from office. . he will be unstoppable and vicious from then on. 😒

    1. @vajleexi the real fact is Dumpty has lost so much .
      just take a good look at what all his “millions” and all his craved power has done for him– HE IS ONE OF MOST DISLIKED PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

  6. A wannabe despot or dictator, must do two things. First, since information from the press can undermine a dictators spell over his cultists, Trump has to attack and demonized the free press. He must claim that the media can’t be trusted. He must constantly attack any news outlet or journalists who reports anything negative about him. He must claim that the free press is secretly in the service of moneyed interests, or a deep state conspiracy against him, or claiming that leading newspapers were simply personally out to get him. No dictator can survive in a country that has a free press. The 2nd thing a wannabe dictator like Trump must do, is go after law enforcement agencies and the people within those agencies, who have sworn an oath to support and defend the Constitution and the United States of America. These agencies pose a direct threat to Trump’s ambitions of subverting the Constitution and the rule of law.

    1. @Patrick Redding
      “A dictator ignores” judiciary. That Federal judge in Hawaii siezed American foreign policy and Trump let SCOTUS decide.

    2. You have summed it quite well. Unfortunately the folks are under this dictators spell are too far gone to listen to reason. Their eyes are blank as is their minds.

    3. Your statement is absolutely correct. A short paperhanger from Austria used each of these techniques in his criminal takeover of Germany in the early 1930’s. The orange dyed fascist in Washington is following each of his steps. Perhaps he learned of them in the book of Hitlers greatest speeches his first wife testified under oath he kept next to his bed!

    1. @Richard Hammonds …. Only in your wet dreams he will. Are you going to carry out your LAUGHABLE threat you have made if the official Impeachment occurs tomorrow of the civil war? If so, please let me know where this fake civil war will start after tomorrow so I can plan a road trip with my gear to protect the innocent while elliminating the threats as I promised in my oath prior. You made the threat directly to many people. Where is this all going down after tomorrow? I just need to load up and hit the road in my RV is all.

    2. @Richard Hammonds since trump took office a Russian intelligence spy ship showed up as well, trump has been in office 4 years now and so has that Russian intelligence spy ship it is staying of our coastline but has traveled up our west west coast looking at our submarine docks and a few navy docks, it frequently goes down to Florida where trump now lives and trump uses his personal cell phone for government business such Russia can listen in on, trump is compromised, the FBI proved that the Russians tried to interfere in the 2016 elections.

    1. @Penny Munger
      You will eventually understand Meuller left you hanging in thin air like Wile E Coyote hallucinating no gravity. FBI and CIA have been disgraced and its only a matter of time before the trials begin.

    2. @Robert Downes you have no idea hoe many atrocities they save us from everyday. How many attacks that never happen bc of their work. As someone with family serving this country and risking their lives for your and my safety, reading opinions like yours break my heart. There I’d always going to he a fee bad ppl in any group. Any organizations but to cla idi m the thousands of men and women who seve in the cia and fbi are all deep state and against america is a smear on them. Shame on you. You have no idea how many ppl die every year ssd’s r thst you’ll never hear about to keep you safe.

    1. @John Lyons It’s the “elected” clown that is doing the most damage. He thinks he knows better than everyone about everything, but the “stable genius” demonstrates every day that he understands very little about what is going on and does not appreciate the consequences of what he does.

    2. @AThagoras find more and better sources of information. You are one sided , with tunnel vision. I know what I see. You know where you are led. Dem party, socialists, will never run this country. Never.

  7. The last thing you want is the FBI to be politicized, because then it becomes the executive’s personal and secret police.

    1. @Starsurfer74 Right, the similarities are astounding. Still, I wouldn’t have thought that US Republicans would bend the knee.

  8. If House says “YES” and Senate says “NO” – we’ll see protests around the world. 
    Remember the Pink Hat rallies were WORLDWIDE!

    1. I’m watching all of this from Australia. It scares the daylights out of me. I never thought I would see democracy in the US failing. Your current government is making the world much less stable and having a negative influence in so many ways.
      I can’t understand how such a large part of the US population is falling for all of the obvious political stunts and disinformation being spread around.

  9. Americans need to clean the White House for-good and get this criminal enterprise out of the White House.Vote blue in 2020

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