Chris Hayes On How The U.S. Is On Italy’s Coronavirus Trajectory | All In | MSNBC

Chris Hayes: “We are racing up this exponential curve at an almost similar rate to the countries that have gone before us. Like Italy. And Italy right now is in the midst of a full-blown public health crisis.” Aired on 3/11/2020.
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118 comments

  1. Thanks to incompetent Trump and the bootlickers working for him innocent people are going to die. Vote out all Republicans.

    1. Had the Republican Senate followed the law we’d have Pence unrestricted to manage this and would only lose 3 -6 million in 6 months. A better alternative for sure. I’ve been pulling for Pence for months.

    2. @Almagiri Mai
      I’m not referring to the Doctors and experts. They are doing their best in a very dangerous situation.
      It’s the bootlickers in the White House.

    3. May I suggest: innocent people have already died and more will die. It’s only a question of when.

    4. @Emma Willard
      I know it’s a tragic situation. But knowing how incompetent Trump is its not necessarily surprising.
      It’s all very sad.

    5. @j walsh Not surprising at all.
      In today’s presser, he was asked the obvious questions: why the delay in putting the nation on alert back in January when the Chinese were trying to cope and then putting assets in place and getting up to speed.
      Along with the corollary query: wouldn’t things have gone better and wouldn’t we be better prepared now if he hadn’t disbanded the WH group on health policy in any time of pandemic.
      No surprise: he doesn’t know anything about any such group and he had nothing to do with disbanding it. Of course it must be someone else’s fault in the WH if that actually happened.
      Can’t change a compulsive liar.

  2. Trump refused WHO testing kits. He cut the budget of government agencies designed to stop epidemics. He replaced competent government workers with right wing morons. No one around him understands herd immunity or exponential growth. Trump and his people have no idea how to bad this will get or how to stop it from getting worse. Trump can’t see how drive up testing would help slow the spread of coronavirus. He can’t see how hospitals need to get ready for an influx of sick people.

    Millions are going to die because Trump is a moron.

    1. I even believe that the American flu in autumn and winter last year was New Coronary Pneumonia. Many American susceptible people have been infected and have antibodies, but having antibodies does not mean that they will not carry the virus. It just doesn’t happen. Even if they are really American-made viruses (only the United States has not joined a treaty banning research and launching a bacterial war), they may have a vaccine. Either of the two above may be in line with the fact that the US senior officials are not worried that the new crown virus will pose a threat to them or threaten the United States. The fact that the White House and first-family and high-level governments have so frequently contacted infected people (or simply they transmitted them to these foreign heads of state) is also evidence of the absence of disease.

    2. @1ShotKestrel 455 k comes from assuming the very lowest end of projected numbers of infected, and mortality rate equal to that of South Korea which is 0.65%. in other words, under 500k dead in America is very optimistic. Not impossible, but optimistic.

    3. Yep, and he will not allow FREE testing. Too many uninsured people can’t afford $1300 for a test. So, if the Italian doctors are deciding on who to save and who to let die, that will happen here, but it will include the criteria of $$$$$.

  3. Millions of people are losing paychecks because of the layoffs coronovirus has caused. So many people are going to get evicted from their homes because they can’t pay rent. Many families won’t be able to afford food. The lower classes are so under-paid, they can’t save money. Rents are designed to gouge those people so they live on a razor’s edge. Unemployment won’t bridge the gap. Coronovirus will bring the brutal, hateful, monstrous way America treats the people that do the actual work to a head.

    1. Scott: During the Great Depression 30% of the USA population starved to death or died from lack of medical care–mostly children.

    2. @88Gibson LesPaul Yes, he will pay for all the medical costs of billionaires and corporations with your tax money.

    3. Way to go Scott, LOVE your last sentence in which you describe the absolute truth about this ‘GREAT’ country. Americans have been brainwashed their whole lives about the “great” country they live in. My standpoint is as long as there are millions of people without healthcare and having the highest prison population in the world and having this huge discrepancy of income inequality America looks more like a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY with corrupt dictators at the helm than the “great” country its citizens believe it to be.

  4. Trump: “The less people we test, the lower the number of infection cases we’ll have. Problem solved.”

    1. I even believe that the American flu in autumn and winter last year was New Coronary Pneumonia. Many American susceptible people have been infected and have antibodies, but having antibodies does not mean that they will not carry the virus. It just doesn’t happen. Even if they are really American-made viruses (only the United States has not joined a treaty banning research and launching a bacterial war), they may have a vaccine. Either of the two above may be in line with the fact that the US senior officials are not worried that the new crown virus will pose a threat to them or threaten the United States. The fact that the White House and first-family and high-level governments have so frequently contacted infected people (or simply they transmitted them to these foreign heads of state) is also evidence of the absence of disease.

  5. Trump is proof that the hardest thing in the world for a sociopath to do, is to pretend that he actually cares about anything or anyone, other than himself.  Trump fails at it everytime.

    1. @myko freder If he gets it 10% chance of dying is too low. If you look at the indicators that death is probable, Trump fits most of them. I would put his dying at around 60% to 70% if he gets it.
      It does not matter how great his care is (as somebody wrote), money does not treat a virus and humans are, well, humans.

    1. Why the wording … you…

      Dont you think the proper word ‘we’ would be more relevant…?

      Just wondering though.

    1. @jeff mcgowan Please use real soap and water. 🧼💧

      And proper English (You’re 🚫 your)
      You’re free to be ignorant, but don’t be stupid.

    2. @Scott Wilhelms a dem tried to give me some soap.. but i knew it was a scam..that all the dems got left

    3. The worst thing is that such a national crisis gives the President a boost in the next election.

  6. Every reporter needs to ask: “Mr. impeached President, exactly what pharma company was suppose to supply the millions of “perfect” corona tests you lied about since December instead of accepting the approved WHO corona tests used internationally? What company had that emergency Federal contract Mr. Trump?”

    1. @jeff mcgowan Actually the House, not just the Dems, impeached your president. The House is always who impeaches a president. By the way, have you noticed how many hands your president has shaken, including at least 2 people who are confirmed to have coronavirus? I don’t think he’ll get off so easily from that. He is after all an old man.

    2. @Linda P no.. just the house and just the dems.. we knew how it was going to play out.. in the house the dems had the numbers and bully the house.. but could not bully the senate.. game over..scam

    3. @Linda P the man has a glow..he had to put on lotion to help hide it… heavenly glow..god sent..all trump does is win

    1. People, the 10-14 days is for the virus explosion, not how long an infected person will experience symptoms.
      America is currently following Italy’s rate of infection where you have small cases from the beginning, then it becomes a cluster after another cluster of infected then it spikes up to an out of control amount of sick and it will overwhelmed all the hospitals.

    2. It started at 30 days. Went to 14 days. Went to 5 days. Why? They can stop people from moving around and spreading it. Because of Trump, people are not taking this seriously. He said it was no big deal when the WHO signaled an unofficial pandemic. They have now signaled to the world. Remove Trump now or everyone dies.

    1. Maybe Lil Donnie (45*) will catch a case of that COVID-19 – can spend some quality time self-isolated in a quiet place, twiddling little fingers.

    2. @Sylvie Walker – you do know that was a false narrative, propaganda. Did you? I mean, you aren’t really that stupid to follow Leftist propaganda

    1. @Michaels amazing videos It is the president’s fault. He’s the one responsible for his own Administration’s actions. Americans have died because of his decisions. Nobody even knows how bad it is in America because they’ve done practically no testing. As far as Trump knows there could already be a million infected and his only thought when he found out would be to hide the numbers and lie about them.

      There are plenty of real experts that could give him good advice on how to protect Americans but he won’t listen to them. He knows so much about it that all the doctors were amazed. Remember that? Instead of listening to them, he contradicts them. Almost everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie and his decisions are atrocious. His every action seems to be designed to hurt the American public.

    2. the UK has free testing at all pharmacies, takes only 10 mins for result. All health care is free and we have 3 months mortgage relief and credit line extension to stay off work.

    3. @Citizen X China has been hurt more by this virus than any other country in the world, so where you get this “scot-free” idea from I don’t know. Perhaps watching too much Fox News? That’s enough to curdle anyone’s brains.

  7. I’m Italian and I don’t understand why US hasn’t followed our steps yet… Everyone laughed at us, saying we were crazy. We are actually choosing to treat those who have higher chances to survive. I am a doctor working in Lombardy (the most hard-hit region of Italy), and I can guarantee this is not “just a flu”. We wear hazmat suits when treating patients. 30-40 y.o. people are being hospitalized in ICUs, not able to breathe on their own. One 20 y.o. patient died and he was healthy and active. Do you still think it’s just a flu?
    Good luck from Italy, you’ll really need it, since you’ve made the same mistakes we made at the beginning.

    1. @Florametista H In bocca al lupo a te, spero che vada tutto per il meglio. Un abbraccio dall’Italia!

    2. @Florametista H A very pertinent comment, pointing out by implication the underlying fatalism, even nihilism, of authoritarian philosophy; even so far as to be called a cult of death. Much denial is needed to prop this terrible mentality up.

    3. fagiolification how are the patients with asthma doing? I don’t seem to find much information about it..

    4. fagiolification how are you? Sounds crazy but I think about you and hope you are well. The day after this conversation they cancelled my child’s school and sports practice. We are stocked up and in home. Seems you all are still in the thick of it and my heart goes out to you. Just saw a video of ICU in Cremona and all the healthcare workers are working their hearts out/unsung hero’s. I do hope you are well.

  8. May this be what the future remembers… that the Liar in office called this a HOAX by the Democrats…

    1. @Bennett McCoy Your FOX news lies are showing .
      What are you really here for? You are not here to get the truth out there. You are here to be an antagonist. Causing discord by trying to defend the Liar N Chief.

    2. @Bennett McCoy look at the videos from his rallies the past 2 months.
      What are you going on about?

    3. @Bennett McCoy Ok now I know you are just a Russian or other Bot.
      Its embarrassing for you. Since you really have no idea what my actual race is.
      So BLESS YOUR HEART
      in a Steel Magnolias kind of way. (That’s how a good southern woman says F__k you)
      You should stop while you are behind.

    4. @Thugsy DaClown That’s exactly what the Liar N Chief does, so I guess he’s just following his “Chosen One”.

    1. Randy Eckard I confirm what you say, Italians almost immediately started doing tests, now they’ve done thousands.

    2. The Apollo fraud will be exposed soon – Stay tuned
      We’ve done over 100.000 tests…if Trump keep ignoring this insidious plague, USA will have a hard time

  9. The US is on it’s way to following Italy, only worse. Italy has universal healthcare and paid sick leave. The lack of those is going to make it 10 times worse in America.

    1. @djpiccalo100 The money any government has belongs to their public. A government’s job is to spend that money for the benefit of its public. The Italian government is doing that, unlike the American government which acts more like a corporation wholly owned by Trump at the moment which doesn’t give 2 hoots for his public no matter what he says.

      Trump’s attitude about Americans is best summed up by his attitude about the Americans who were trapped on that cruise ship with some infected passengers. He said he wanted everyone to stay on the ship because it would make his numbers look bad (him looking good was more important than their lives) if they came ashore, even though staying onboard would increase their likelihood of getting the deadly virus. He cared nothing about those Americans and he feels the same about all Americans.

    2. @Linda P The Italian government isn’t spending their money though are they. They already over the ECB god knows how much. Regardless of whether or not this is the right thing to do, it will cost them an absolute fortune.

    3. @djpiccalo100 You said in your previous comment “Yea but paying their whole country sick leave is going bankrupt Italy worse than the EU already bankrupted them.” Then the next comment you say “The Italian government isn’t spending their money though are they.” Make up your mind. If they are paying their citizens sick leave, how can they not be spending their money? Paying means they are spending and the fact that they are using the public’s money for the benefit of the public means they are doing their job. The money doesn’t belong to the government. It belongs to the people. Try to think before you comment. It really helps.

    4. @djpiccalo100 As to Trump having any motive other than to have good “ratings” like the reality TV show clown he still thinks he is, no he wasn’t thinking about importing thousands of infected people. There were only 21 known infected at the time which is very different to thousands. He himself said he didn’t want them because they would “make his numbers look bad.” He is worried about his image and “ratings”, not about other people’s lives. America was already infected by the virus at the time. Nobody even knows how many Americans are infected now because the total number of test kits his administration has released is less than what South Korea uses every day. South Korea does over 10,000 tests every day. Trump’s administration has hampered the testing wherever possible, only allowing the CDC and the Department of Health being allowed to test and very few are able to get tested even if they are extremely sick.

  10. The first thing in Italian doctor would check in a patient is there pulse the first thing an American doctor would check is the patients wallet
    What criteria is America going to use to work out who to treat

    1. That’s not how triage works. People with clearly severe problems are brought straight in before checking their names.

    2. @Nameless Progressive Clone Triage, noun – the assignment of degrees of urgency to wounds or illnesses to decide the order of treatment of a large number of patients or casualties. * That’s how Google and everyone else understand triage. How’s about the ol’ US of A? Check their wallets only after being treated?

    3. @Juha Lampola
      Sadly those who cannot pay are stabilized and sent packing. But nobody in critical condition is turned away.

    4. @Kay’s Paladin at Kween’s Court which part? They have closed the school district since my last post, but there are food issues like I said. And the testing for cases is still extremely limited.

  11. Rich people only care about world events when it hits them in the wallet, which is why the ‘only’ reason we have ‘any’ reaction from this completely incompetent failure of an administration is because the stock market is tanking, and they are feeling it in their wallets.

    1. I am not rich, but I have money in my rollover IRA. It’s taking a beating, but I don’t care if this thing gets Tboi out of office.

    2. Absolutely right. I think the reason it is taking so long to get things going is because evil politicians have been trying to arrange it so that they and their friends can make the most money off of the sick and dying. They position their “friends” (anyone who can make the polititians richer) , and get themselfs the back door deals. They buy stock in the companies they have put in place. It all takes time.
      That’s what has been happenning behind closed doors.

    3. People are so dumb…. the stock market is evil, it’s only for rich people, people should share ownership, down with corporations!

      What, my parents own those corporations? Huh?

      A corporations IS voluntary shared ownership??? No way!

      Only the idiot’s never learn about compounding their earnings? Whaaaa?

    4. I do not think the rich are alone there. Look at Medicare For All, a programme that we need in a time of crisis. I see so many interviews where it is obvious people only think of themselves. The average person pay about $12,000 a year in Premiums, that person on $60,000 a year would pay $1,240 a year in extra Medicare Tax but I see those people saying “I would rather pay my $12,000 a year in Premiums (A Private Tax) than pay $1,240 for Medicare For All. When will people wake up? When people tell me they do not need healthcare, I tell them that they are “One accident or one Serious Illness away from Medical Bankruptsy.”

    1. @big jabaz At Trump’s rally last week, when asked about the Coronavirus they said “There is no Coronavirus; it is all an hoax by the Democrats.”

    2. @Judith Aldridge and they will believe trump over reason endangering lives trump should be charge with putting lives in danger if you or I did that we would be charge and convicted but i guess stupidity of a president and his drones isn’t a crime

    3. @Katrina PERHAPS, BUT WE LIVE IN A SICK WORLD. I HAVE A REALISTIC MIND AND THAT IS ALL THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. THE TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED VERY SHORTLY AND YOU WILL BE SHOCKED BY THE REVELATIONS. ie: WALNUT SAUCE, ANDRENOCHROME, RESTAURANTS SERVING HUMAN MEAT, KURU DISEASE FROM EATING HUMAN FLESH, AND WHAT THE CLINTON’S REALLY DID IN HAITI.

    1. No matter how great we are… we are only as healthy as our weakest.
      50+% of USA children live under the poverty line. What do you think that means in real life?

    2. Trump and Fox News is too busy spreading misinformation if not absolute lies and racism. This is not the “Chinese-Virus” this is the Coronavirus or COVID-19.

    3. @Bree Adams Neither Trump or Fox News would put out misinformation, they do not have the mental capacity, it is just outright lies.

    1. but everyone’s hoarding supplies so now I know theres no need to buy those things I can just use my guns to confiscate their supply and ensure self survival 👍🇺🇸 prepping when all is calm is key

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